What will history say about Trump?

[DukeofPaducah]

Different times, different people.

They are stoppable usually of their own damned free will.

One example: to project the power and magnificence of the State, they built a mighty fleet the likes of which the world and never seen and went on a world tour. When they returned, the fleet was burned and that was it, the ocean was their border. That China will never die.

The Communists will not last much longer.

If you create wealth
the people will want

One way or another, things are going to change for the Chinese Jade Matrix.

Pure Communism in China has been gone for a while now. Since Mao Tse Tung.
They’re a blend of socialism and a market driven economy. Same as Vietnam. The powers that be are plutocrats and they are entrenched.
Not unlike us.
The difference, and their advantage is their hive mind. They accomplish a singular goal in a much shorter time. Check out the

Latter Day Saints. Their State symbol is a beehive.
Our advantage as Americans is individuality. It promotes innovation. Downsides are narcissism, a dod eat dog mentality (capitalism)
and sociopathy (school shootings).
They’re catching up though. There’s report of a mass stabbing in Eastern China this morning. That’s real progress (?)

China makes up for a deficit in creativity by letting us do it and then appropriating it.

Is your self delusion intentional?

 

[JaySecrets]

It depends who writes the history. If it’s the guys who think slavery was an on the job training program and that Nazis were very fine people, history will remember him well.

Full quotes to support that statement please. And not just sound bites taken way out of context to demonize him for things he has never said or believed.

 

[JaySecrets]

Pure Communism in China has been gone for a while now. Since Mao Tse Tung.
They’re a blend of socialism and a market driven economy. Same as Vietnam. The powers that be are plutocrats and they are entrenched.
Not unlike us.
The difference, and their advantage is their hive mind. They accomplish a singular goal in a much shorter time. Check out the

Latter Day Saints. Their State symbol is a beehive.
Our advantage as Americans is individuality. It promotes innovation. Downsides are narcissism, a dod eat dog mentality (capitalism)
and sociopathy (school shootings).
They’re catching up though. There’s report of a mass stabbing in Eastern China this morning. That’s real progress (?)

China makes up for a deficit in creativity by letting us do it and then appropriating it.

Is your self delusion intentional?

Are you actually claiming that Maoist Communism is a GOOD thing?!!! That American Liberty is a net negative?!!! Are you out your gourd?!!!

 

[JaySecrets]

Poor little deplorable incels. So frustrated and angry that females won’t give them the time of day, except for maybe their mommies.

You paid attention to what ladies show up on the conservative networks? A whole hellalotta stunning! You really want to reduce an intellectual debate into a personal attack on who attracts what women? It shows you have no case to make AND you are not paying attention.

 

[JaySecrets]

Lol. I don't think he knows. In MAGA world there was no slavery. There was no Jim Crow. There was never any racism in America. Low IQ thinking.

Again, please cite evidence of this belief based on actual statements and quotes in context.

 

[Politruk]

The Communists will not last much longer.

That was predicted in 2001, but the regime seems as stable as ever.

 

[JaySecrets]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTYNbQjt8/

 

[leopard50]

Full quotes to support that statement please. And not just sound bites taken way out of context to demonize him for things he has never said or believed.

It’s patently obvious to anyone not trapped in the right wing disinformation bubble. If you’re trapped there, nothing I can say will convince you so I’m not going to waste my time.

 

[leopard50]

You paid attention to what ladies show up on the conservative networks? A whole hellalotta stunning! You really want to reduce an intellectual debate into a personal attack on who attracts what women? It shows you have no case to make AND you are not paying attention.

Lol. It’s humorous when someone who was not being addressed is so desperate for attention that he raises his hand so that he might also be recognized as a poor little deplorable incel.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Are you actually claiming that Maoist Communism is a GOOD thing?!!! That American Liberty is a net negative?!!! Are you out your gourd?!!!

I reread my post several times and nowhere can I find where I was in favor of Communism.
Because I’m not. I’m not sure where you get that one.
Don’t flip your wig, Sigmund.

 

[JaySecrets]

It’s patently obvious to anyone not trapped in the right wing disinformation bubble. If you’re trapped there, nothing I can say will convince you so I’m not going to waste my time.

If it's obvious, then the evidence should be abundant and you should be able to provide documentation in context. "It's just... OBVIOUS! The evidence is EVERYWHERE!", without actually providing one scrap of it is proof of no legitimate argument or case. Put another way, if EVERYTHING is evidence, NOTHING is.

 

[ll74]

If it's obvious, then the evidence should be abundant and you should be able to provide documentation in context. "It's just... OBVIOUS! The evidence is EVERYWHERE!", without actually providing one scrap of it is proof of no legitimate argument or case. Put another way, if EVERYTHING is evidence, NOTHING is.

Haitians are eating your pets.

 

[JaySecrets]

Lol. It’s humorous when someone who was not being addressed is so desperate for attention that he raises his hand so that he might also be recognized as a poor little deplorable incel.

I need no attention or validation. I just find the last throes insults of a losing party pathetic and amusing.

 

[JaySecrets]

I reread my post several times and nowhere can I find where I was in favor of Communism.
Because I’m not. I’m not sure where you get that one.
Don’t flip your wig, Sigmund.

You just said China Communism (that, by the way, is directly responsible for the oppression, torture, and death of millions) has lots of pros, while American Capitalism and freedom (where people are fleeing China to get to) has lots of cons. How is this NOT pro-Mouism?

 

[Chernosoth]

Many changes that will happen during his term are outside his control and influence. They will be made by the entire nation because it is ready to make those changes.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

You just said China Communism (that, by the way, is directly responsible for the oppression, torture, and death of millions) has lots of pros, while American Capitalism and freedom (where people are fleeing China to get to) has lots of cons. How is this NOT pro-Mouism?

Tell me what it was I said about Communism in your statement above..

You’re out in the weeds old son.
What did I say about Communism? I said it had been gone for a while. Where so you come up with that as praise.
I noted some positive aspects of Chinese CULTURE. is that the same to you?

I stated some drawbacks to American CULTURE that you can’t even address. Where else on this planet does someone walk int a school and slaughter children or kill 58 from a hotel window and injure almost 500?
That mentality has nothing to do with Capitalism.
I look around I don’t see much Capitalism here. You should read Adam Smith’s Wealth of Mations before you try to identify it. It mentions bailouts nowhere. No one is too big to fail. Reckless behavior is reckless because there are consequences.
My father said never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

 

[AceDesSpades]

Pure Communism in China has been gone for a while now. Since Mao Tse Tung.
They’re a blend of socialism and a market driven economy. Same as Vietnam. The powers that be are plutocrats and they are entrenched.
Not unlike us.
The difference, and their advantage is their hive mind. They accomplish a singular goal in a much shorter time. Check out the

Latter Day Saints. Their State symbol is a beehive.
Our advantage as Americans is individuality. It promotes innovation. Downsides are narcissism, a dod eat dog mentality (capitalism)
and sociopathy (school shootings).
They’re catching up though. There’s report of a mass stabbing in Eastern China this morning. That’s real progress (?)

China makes up for a deficit in creativity by letting us do it and then appropriating it.

Is your self delusion intentional?

The glaring difference is in underlying core philosophy and as you point out, they turn to ours when given half a chance.

They will only catch up when they discard the failed -isms of the Century past.

 

[JohnEngelman]

My instincts tell me that a man as ignorant and impulsive as Trump will fail catastrophically.

Nevertheless, my instincts have been wrong before.

I knew that Ronald Reagan could not cut taxes, raise military pending, and balance the budget by 1983, as he promised to do in his 1980 debate with President Carter.

I thought cutting taxes and raising military spending would lead to an inflationary recession, worse than what we experienced under Carter.

I had not counted on the decline in the world price of petroleum. It saved us from the horrible results of Reagan's foolishness.

 

[AceDesSpades]

My 20-20 hindsight says something like "all over again."

After time has passed, it is really hard for Chicken Little to keep the façade propped up...

If you keep screaming, "The British are coming" and no Red Coats, no tea, no nothing except harbored resentment...,


Oh well, all you Little Fockers, keep clucking on. It's a free country, but listen, sometimes people don't want your kind of free, Dom, capice? That's why they said DoN.

 

[wallstreetguy]

Great economy.
Pissed people off.
Did not start wars.

 

[AceDesSpades]

*groan*

Five alts now...

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[AceDesSpades]

"He [Chris Matthews] also said Democrats must stop all this spending, which has driven up prices. The appalling condescension needs to stop, too. And that’s where Democrats were playing to—wealthy, white, college-educated progressives who ironically don’t know anything. They’re hyper-partisan and over-the-top on every issue, far left on most matters of public policy, even more so than nonwhite Democrats. When you have a sect that thinks America is no better than Apartheid South Africa, you’re going to get some whacky people and policy pitches, along with derision if you don’t hop on their woke train. The Democrats’ agenda was exclusionary to the hilt and left many voters wanting to punch these people in the face, from media segments since the Left hasn’t learned."

Matt Vespa, Townhall.com

 

[AceDesSpades]

"The appalling condescension needs to stop"

Are you LITloons paying attention yet?

 

[AceDesSpades]

Victor Davis Hanson, Classicist

Both Russia and Ukraine are running out of soldiers, with escalating casualties that will haunt them for decades. Russia yearns to be free of sanctions and to sell oil and gas to Europe. The West, and the U.S. in particular, would like to triangulate Russia against China and vice versa, in Kissingerian style, and thus avoid any two-power nuclear standoff.

America wants to increase and stockpile its munitions with an emboldened China on the horizon. It is dangerously exhausted by defense cuts and massive aid to Ukraine and Israel while preferring allies like Israel that can win with a few billion rather than perhaps lose after receiving $200 billion. The Republican Party is now becoming the party of peace, and Trump, the Jacksonian, nonetheless the most reluctant president to spend American blood and treasure abroad in memory.

Europe is mentally worn out by the war and increasingly reneging on its once boastful unqualified support for Ukraine. So, it hopes the demonized Trump can both end the hated war and then be blamed for ending it without an unconditional Ukrainian victory.

In short, there are lots of parties who want, and lots of incentives for, an end to our 21st-century Verdun.

Link at American Greatness

 

[AceDesSpades]