What do they actually want?

[Politruk]

The past is indictment.
The present injustice.
The future (R)evelations
(unless you vote for collectivization [union, -ization, unity, UN])

If those are the options, then collectivization is best.

 

[AceDesSpades]

That is a belief system that upon realization leads to tyranny and then revolution.

When you collectively vest power, you surrender the ability to "turn the other cheek."

 

[Rebel5soul]

If those are the options, then collectivization is best.

And the mask drops. And you wondered why I called you a Communist from the git go.

 

[AceDesSpades]

*chuckle*

 

[ll74]

I am getting the impression that the liberals simply hate America and do not want great things for America. Is the goal to make the North Korean model the global reality? I am serous. I just can't grasp the hate brewing in these people. What the hell is going on? It is like some bat shit crazy Twilight Zone take over of peoples minds.

This was always going to be your impression (and the point of the thread) because your question was not sincere.

Next time, just say what you mean and save others the time.

 

[Wat_Tyler]

That is a belief system that upon realization leads to tyranny and then revolution.

When you collectively vest power, you surrender the ability to "turn the other cheek."

Wat for Strongman Ruler 2028!!!


Solutions for what ails the world.

 

[AceDesSpades]

What if they don't feel ill (other then will)?

 

[ChloeTzang]

I am getting the impression that the liberals simply hate America and do not want great things for America. Is the goal to make the North Korean model the global reality? I am serous. I just can't grasp the hate brewing in these people. What the hell is going on? It is like some bat shit crazy Twilight Zone take over of peoples minds.

THAT is a fair assessment. Most so-called liberals hate America, hate our way of life, hate freedom and want t impose their own version of insanity on everyone.

We can see in the UK the next steps there. People jailed for "hate speech" that's factually correct. People jailed for expressing political views that the left disagrees with.

Elect the Democrats into power Federally and you'd see the same thing here, plus throw in environmental insanity, economic destruction and impoverishment, and the continued flooding of the country with millions of illegal aliens, leading to collapsing wages, the destruction and impoverishment of the American working and middle classes, and the creation of an economic elite dominated by crazed leftist billionaires like Bezos and Gates. Of course, the end result would be civil war, but the delusional idiots think they'd win.

 

[eric_erosfan]

Funny all this talk of one side hates America. That is what I foolishly believed about Democrats during W's two terms. But now I see the hate of America coming from MAGA-world.

But maybe "America" needs defining so we know what is being hated.

The definition of America is freedom and justice for all. Which side is doing the most to curtail freedom and justice for all? That is who hates America.

 

[HisArpy]

I am getting the impression that the liberals simply hate America and do not want great things for America. Is the goal to make the North Korean model the global reality? I am serous. I just can't grasp the hate brewing in these people. What the hell is going on? It is like some bat shit crazy Twilight Zone take over of peoples minds.

Most of the loudest anti-liberty voices you hear aren't American.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I speak as a former "liberal" Democrat, now of the Libertarian mindset:

<derp snip>

Give it a rest, Tonto. It's been almost half a century since you purportedly "voted Democratic".

You claim to have embraced libertarianism whilst serving in the Marine Corps, when then-President Jimmy Carter "ordered US Marines to start sucking each others' dicks".

 

[RobDownSouth]

It's more than just an impression.

You sound so victim-y.

 

[TomTeacher19]

The liberals hate America?

But Trump and the MAGAs literally have lived on a complete campaign of spewing hatred for a decade now. They hate the liberals and the media and the blacks and the Mexicans and the women and the poor and the middle easterns and the Asians and the teachers and the students and the rich and the ones who care about the environment and anyone who dares to say anything honest but negative about them.

 

[HisArpy]

The liberals hate America?

But Trump and the MAGAs literally have lived on a complete campaign of spewing hatred for a decade now. They hate the liberals and the media and the blacks and the Mexicans and the women and the poor and the middle easterns and the Asians and the teachers and the students and the rich and the ones who care about the environment and anyone who dares to say anything honest but negative about them.

Lol. No we don't.

We hate what you want to turn the US into, not you personally.

Although I'm beginning to recognize that you'd like to be an individual exception to that general idea. Mostly because, I'm thinking, it will finally get you some attention.

A better idea, instead of martyrdom or self flagellation, is to go out and make something of yourself instead of being a whiny little bitch.

 

[Politruk]

THAT is a fair assessment. Most so-called liberals hate America, hate our way of life, hate freedom and want t impose their own version of insanity on everyone.

See post #22, you idiot. It might not be what you want but there is no insanity there. There is none in the social democracies. There is a lot of insanity in the Trump movement. They focus all their energy and attention on things that don't matter at all, such as immigration, or trans athletes, or CRT.

 

[Chernosoth]

They want to be praised and feel good about themselves as the smartest and most virtuous, without doing the work or relinquishing any personal luxuries to earn praise. Those costs can be carried by the nonvirtuous, the deplorables.