Who genderised dominant? (Why do we need Domme?)

[DeservingBitch]

I just don't like the term because I don't like the *nounification" of dominant

OK, this is too funny. I totally misread what you wrote at first, but my misreading is way more funny than your intended meaning.

The french canadian term we use for 'pussy' is 'noune' (pronounced 'noone'). So when I read "the *nounification* of dominant", I first understood you as saying "the *pussyfication* of dominant".

I have to admit that I wasn't sure why you didn't like the pussyfication of dominant.

 

[Netzach]

OK, this is too funny. I totally misread what you wrote at first, but my misreading is way more funny than your intended meaning.

The french canadian term we use for 'pussy' is 'noune' (pronounced 'noone'). So when I read "the *nounification* of dominant", I first understood you as saying "the *pussyfication* of dominant".

I have to admit that I wasn't sure why you didn't like the pussyfication of dominant.

Hah! I will add that to my useful lexicon. I don't know any dirty Canadian slang.

Er, except for "plotte" Thank you Julie Doucette.

 

[midwestyankee]

Hah! I will add that to my useful lexicon. I don't know any dirty Canadian slang.

Er, except for "plotte" Thank you Julie Doucette.

Here's another: it's common to call one's girlfriend/main squeeze "ma blonde." While not specifically dirty, this is culturally fascinating.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Hah! I will add that to my useful lexicon. I don't know any dirty Canadian slang.

Er, except for "plotte" Thank you Julie Doucette.

"Plotte" is really dirty. The french canadian equivalent of "cunt", but it sounds much more dirty (in every sense of the word) than cunt does.

 

[Homburg]

Another thread on lingual drift. Neat.

 

[DeservingBitch]

Another thread on lingual drift. Neat.

Want more?

 

[Homburg]

I was being honest. I like threads like this, even if I'm not involved in this particular one.

 

[FungiUg]

Another thread on lingual drift. Neat.

Well, I was thinking more Detectation than drift. But yeah. I'm like that... an aspiring pedant.

 

[LloydW]

Personally, I think "Domme" is sexy. Maybe it's that my non-Francophone eyes/ears are fooled by it's French-ness, but it's still sexy regardless.

 

[Tuomas]

You are, like in most gender issue things, reading too much into it. I've always understood "Dominant" to be either of the sexes, "Dom" to be male and "Domme" to be female, when the distinction was necessary. Other than that, I haven't noticed any "gender" in BDSM -or the rest of the world for that matter.

If you see that "submissive" typically refers to a female, than that's your own mind. Some people actually think with the precise meanings of words.

There is, however, a tendency to associate "Dominant" with males and "submissive" with females, because there are more Doms than Dommes, and a lot more female submissives than males. Fact of life. Get over it.

 

[Netzach]

... a lot more female submissives than males. Fact of life. Get over it.

Try again on that one.

 

[FungiUg]

Yeah... I'm not sure of the statistics. More female subs than males? I would have thought it about equal.

 

[Xelebes]

Here's another: it's common to call one's girlfriend/main squeeze "ma blonde." While not specifically dirty, this is culturally fascinating.

As a Canadian, you're losing me.

Western Canadian dirty talk:

Babushka = hairy wife/domina
Frozen Pyroghy = buttplug


...

I'll think of more.

 

[midwestyankee]

As a Canadian, you're losing me.

Western Canadian dirty talk:

Babushka = hairy wife/domina
Frozen Pyroghy = buttplug


...

I'll think of more.

I'll have to see if I can find a good citation for this usage in the current French-Canadian vernacular.

 

[Netzach]

As a Canadian, you're losing me.

Western Canadian dirty talk:

Babushka = hairy wife/domina
Frozen Pyroghy = buttplug


...

I'll think of more.

Chicago is in Western Canada?

 

[midwestyankee]

Chicago is in Western Canada?

I'm a little foggy this morning, but I don't think so. Our money is still mostly green.

 

[Homburg]

I'm a little foggy this morning, but I don't think so. Our money is still mostly green.

Though given the exchange rate they're interchangable right now =P

 

[midwestyankee]

Though given the exchange rate they're interchangable right now =P

Yep. Nearly spewed my coffee when I was in Toronto this summer and the kid at the gas station told me the two dollars had reached parity (well, he put it differently, but you get the idea).

 

[Homburg]

Yep. Nearly spewed my coffee when I was in Toronto this summer and the kid at the gas station told me the two dollars had reached parity (well, he put it differently, but you get the idea).

Yup, the last time I was in lovely Canada was yeeeears ago, and the US Dollar was shoving the Canadian dollar around and kicking sand in its' face. Canadian dollar went and got that Charles Atlas course and it ain't takin' no guff now.

$1 USD = $1.00090 CD

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

 

[midwestyankee]

Yup, the last time I was in lovely Canada was yeeeears ago, and the US Dollar was shoving the Canadian dollar around and kicking sand in its' face. Canadian dollar went and got that Charles Atlas course and it ain't takin' no guff now.

$1 USD = $1.00090 CD

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Thank you Pretzelnit Bush.

 

[midwestyankee]

Now, back to the regularly scheduled thread topic.

The English language has long had an assumed gender usage pattern. For reasons known only to the court of William the First, English just never picked up on the gendered noun thing that was all the rage among Romance languages and so we have to guess about the gender of all nouns (well, you can check on some things, such as "table" by looking between the legs).

Over time, this led to a pattern of assuming maleness to unspecified nouns or nouns with no antecedent. Plus, we got into the linguistic habit of saying "all men are created equal" and things like that but meant "all persons are created equal" (well, sort of but you get my drift).

The word "dominant," then, took on its maleness from traditional English usage. Nothing more and nothing less.

As a personal note, I've always found the term "Domme" to be more than a little odd. I suppose that it's a hyperurbanization analogized off the French word "femme" for woman but it just doesn't work for me. Ce n'est pas le français pas du tout.

 

[Netzach]

Now, back to the regularly scheduled thread topic.

The English language has long had an assumed gender usage pattern. For reasons known only to the court of William the First, English just never picked up on the gendered noun thing that was all the rage among Romance languages and so we have to guess about the gender of all nouns (well, you can check on some things, such as "table" by looking between the legs).

Over time, this led to a pattern of assuming maleness to unspecified nouns or nouns with no antecedent. Plus, we got into the linguistic habit of saying "all men are created equal" and things like that but meant "all persons are created equal" (well, sort of but you get my drift).

The word "dominant," then, took on its maleness from traditional English usage. Nothing more and nothing less.

As a personal note, I've always found the term "Domme" to be more than a little odd. I suppose that it's a hyperurbanization analogized off the French word "femme" for woman but it just doesn't work for me. Ce n'est pas le français pas du tout.

I was railing against it one day to my husband. "It's like -- Masterette"
He looked at me. I said "I know, I know. I'm totally a Masterette."

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Canada lives and dies from exports. A strong Canadian Dollar is not good for exports. BECAUSE it costs everyone more of their money to buy Canadian stuff.

I own two cars. Both were made in Canada. What do you suppose will happen to the price of Canadian cars?

 

[midwestyankee]

I was railing against it one day to my husband. "It's like -- Masterette"
He looked at me. I said "I know, I know. I'm totally a Masterette."

That's definitely better than being a Dommette.

 

[FungiUg]

The word "dominant," then, took on its maleness from traditional English usage. Nothing more and nothing less.

That's the best explanation of it I've read so far. So can we agree that it's your fault now?