Who Would You Rather Be Dommed By?

[MisterSir]

Since it's moved into a discussion on the nature of TV, I'm going to introduce you guys to something by the name of Sturgeon's Revelation. In 1958, a sci-fi writer by the name of Theodore Sturgeon made a comment in an issue of "Venture Science Fiction" that ran along the lines that he'd spent twenty years defending sci-fi against critics who'd concluded that 90% of the genre was rubbish. Allegedly, he then made the same comment at a later convention and, when the audience protested, followed up by quoting his Revelation:

Ninety percent of everything is crap.

There's an optimistic second clause people, including myself, sometimes add that states "...but the other ten percent is worth dying for". You can see how this applies to TV. And then, of course, you have a corollary that says the difficulty of getting people to agree on exact which bit is the non-crap ten percent exponentially increases as the group of people gets bigger.

...so yeah. I'm not sure what my point was, take from this what you will. I can't see TV as anything other than a good thing, I don't know whether that's because it is a mirror into our soul - which may explain why shows like CSI are so popular - or the opiate of the masses, or maybe just a damn good source of entertainment.

 

[00Syd]

Well, as long as you've got critical brain on at least some of the time, that's a good thing.

I always have my critical brain on, even when watching the most mindless shit, otherwise I probably wouldn't be able to tolerate a lot of it. I think that looking at TV (and advertising, and everything else low culture) with a critical eye really provides some interesting insights.

I mean, look at how we perceive comics now vs. how they were perceived in the 40s. Comics were the mindless crap of their day, and now we have scholarly articles and books about them. I think its great that we are now coming to see the value in low/pop culture.

I post modernism.

 

[00Syd]

Since it's moved into a discussion on the nature of TV, I'm going to introduce you guys to something by the name of Sturgeon's Revelation. In 1958, a sci-fi writer by the name of Theodore Sturgeon made a comment in an issue of "Venture Science Fiction" that ran along the lines that he'd spent twenty years defending sci-fi against critics who'd concluded that 90% of the genre was rubbish. Allegedly, he then made the same comment at a later convention and, when the audience protested, followed up by quoting his Revelation:

Ninety percent of everything is crap.

There's an optimistic second clause people, including myself, sometimes add that states "...but the other ten percent is worth dying for". You can see how this applies to TV. And then, of course, you have a corollary that says the difficulty of getting people to agree on exact which bit is the non-crap ten percent exponentially increases as the group of people gets bigger.

...so yeah. I'm not sure what my point was, take from this what you will. I can't see TV as anything other than a good thing, I don't know whether that's because it is a mirror into our soul - which may explain why shows like CSI are so popular - or the opiate of the masses, or maybe just a damn good source of entertainment.

Which I think is an incredibly valuable trait in and of itself.

 

[Cattypuss]

See the Limey, really.

I'll look out for it - thanks!

 

[Cattypuss]

I don't watch a lot of TV (maybe 4 hours a week tops) but there is/has been some BRILLIANT stuff on TV.

E.g. -

The Sopranos
Huff
Monk
Green Wing
QI
The Wire
The South Bank Show
Gavin and Stacey
Anything with David Attenborough in it!

 

[satindesire]

Oh I've got one:

Who would you rather be dommed by?

Laura Croft

or

Alice (of Resident Evil fame)

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Oh I've got one:

Who would you rather be dommed by?

Lara Croft

or

Alice (of Resident Evil fame)

Fixed

Assuming that is, you mean Lara Croft, hot tomb raider, and not Laura Croft, July 2008s playmate of the month

 

[daddiespet]

Lara Croft!!!

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Lara Croft!!!

Agreed.

I think that's where I developed my crushes on Angelina Jolie AND Daniel Craig

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[SpencerAlanMacLeod]

Well...Since this thread has evolved from 'Ladies: is it Worf or Teal'c?...

I'd rather watch Dr. Frasier on Stargate SG1 (played by Teryl Rothery) have a Jello wrestling match with Colonel Kira Neris (played by Nana Visitor).

The winner could take my wife but only if I could watch!!!

 

[MisterSir]

Oh I've got one:

Who would you rather be dommed by?

Laura Croft

or

Alice (of Resident Evil fame)

Yeesh. The RE fan in me says "alice alice for the love of god alice", but you're asking me to pick between Milla Jovovich and Angelina Jolie, there's only one real answer to that question and I'll have to take the Oscar winner.

 

[wouldloveto]

hmmm... Milla Jovovich or Angelina Jolie?

I will just kneel naked on the floor with my head down and wait for them to decide.

 

[satindesire]

hmmm... Milla Jovovich or Angelina Jolie?

I will just kneel naked on the floor with my head down and wait for them to decide.

Well, I was actually talking about their characters, not the RL people.

I'd pick Alice. You know with all that practice of zombie-slaying she's got mad skillz.

 

[wouldloveto]

Same thing with the characters...

the thrill of the surprise would be part of it.

 

[daddiespet]

neither! my Daddy all the way

 

[Netzach]

Milla's totally hot and I don't have interest in Anglelina to even use Brad's dick to do it.

Although, wait, that's kind of a fascinating notion...

 

[satindesire]

Milla's totally hot and I don't have interest in Anglelina to even use Brad's dick to do it.

Although, wait, that's kind of a fascinating notion...

When Angie had meat on her bones, she could have rocked my world anytime.

But now she's Skeletor, I find her body far less appealing, although her face and hair are just as lovely as they ever have been.

 

[Homburg]

She has lost way too much weight. She just looks hard now. Angular.

 

[FurryFury]

She has lost way too much weight. She just looks hard now. Angular.

*nods*

Unnatural.

 

[MisterSir]

Well, I'm afraid I shall have to disagree with the lot of you. And after all, women always tell me that appearances aren't important, it's what's inside that counts...or was that all a horrible, horrible lie?

 

[satindesire]

Well, I'm afraid I shall have to disagree with the lot of you. And after all, women always tell me that appearances aren't important, it's what's inside that counts...or was that all a horrible, horrible lie?

Unless you know her personally, then all you have to go on is looks.

And unless you're Brad Pitt or one of her exes, I can pretty much guess you don't know her.

 

[Netzach]

Well, I'm afraid I shall have to disagree with the lot of you. And after all, women always tell me that appearances aren't important, it's what's inside that counts...or was that all a horrible, horrible lie?

I never said that in my life.

They're not all that matters, but they definitely matter.

 

[FurryFury]

Well, I'm afraid I shall have to disagree with the lot of you. And after all, women always tell me that appearances aren't important, it's what's inside that counts...or was that all a horrible, horrible lie?

No, not a horrible lie at all. Sometimes it's well intentioned. Sometimes it's wishful thinking. Sometimes it's true but rarely. Why? Because subconsciously we are all drawn to certain things and looks absolutely matter.

That doesn't mean being handsome or beautiful is the goal to attain and which will attract all comers. No, not at all. In fact, beauty frightens off the great majority of any real contact. It often attracts those who have no sense of reality as other people see it aka dangerous people as well.

I don't know Angelina Joie personally. What I do know about her leads me to believe that she is not the kind of sane I'd want in my life, if she can be said to be sane at all. She might be fun from time to time however . . .

 

[Homburg]

No, not at all. In fact, beauty frightens off the great majority of any real contact. It often attracts those who have no sense of reality as other people see it aka dangerous people as well.

This is something I've heard before. Guys are often too intimidated to talk to pretty women. I'm sure the same can be said in the other direction.

 

[FurryFury]

This is something I've heard before. Guys are often too intimidated to talk to pretty women. I'm sure the same can be said in the other direction.

Yes, probably so.

And of course those that KNOW they are good looking are rarely the ones you can have a good conversation with anyway. I mean unless you want to just listen.