Why aren't male subs taken more seriously?

I have a femme Domme friend who has two male subs. She is forever complaining about the disrespect shown to her subs. I don't think they are disrespected as much as being ignored. Perhaps many male Dominants think of them as weak or unmanly for being submissive...shrugs.
From a submissive standpoint I feel it takes more guts to be the whipping post than vise versa. Perhaps these Dominants are ashamed of their own submissive sides and feel threatened by these subs in some weird way...I really don't know.
 
cati said:
I have a femme Domme friend who has two male subs. She is forever complaining about the disrespect shown to her subs. I don't think they are disrespected as much as being ignored. Perhaps many male Dominants think of them as weak or unmanly for being submissive...shrugs.
From a submissive standpoint I feel it takes more guts to be the whipping post than vise versa. Perhaps these Dominants are ashamed of their own submissive sides and feel threatened by these subs in some weird way...I really don't know.

but male subs aren't only not taken seriously by male dominants, but by females aswel, though your point is well taken, there could be this idea that male submissives are being weak and unmanly, although I think this view would only be held by a small number of people who shouldnt really be taken seriously themselves
 
All Doms are threatened by male subs.

We're like the holders of an automatic masculinity rifle.

I have encountered a few Doms of the sort who disrespect male subs as a whole, one called me worm. Of course I was quick to call that one a Cur right back, though he actually got defended by another extremely crazy fem sub.
 
lord_bob said:
but male subs aren't only not taken seriously by male dominants, but by females aswel

That might be true here or on other boards, but quite frankly most women wouldn't recognize a male sub if she saw one face to face.

Many male subs are in or have been in vanilla relationships where they have been dominant partners. And some women never know that the man she was with had these feelings.

Since many male subs are in positions where they are just as manly as the next guy, you do not know they are submissive unless they decide to "be all they can be" by choosing to live the lifestyle.
 
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Redundant Prattle

ALL FEMALE DOMINANTS ARE THE SAME & ALL MALE SUBS ARE THE SAME.
ALL MALE SUBS ARE WEAK.

EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

ALL FEMALE DOMINANTS ARE THE SAME & ALL MALE SUBS ARE THE SAME.
ALL MALE SUBS ARE WEAK.

EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

ALL FEMALE DOMINANTS ARE THE SAME & ALL MALE SUBS ARE THE SAME.
ALL MALE SUBS ARE WEAK.

EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

YOU ARE NOT A UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE.


Of coarse I'm being sarcastic again, & if anyone is offended by this I don't care.

To whoever this may apply:

Do you feel like you're not being taken seriously?

Do you feel as though you are being disrespected?

Do you want to be taken seriously?

Do you want respect?


If so, then do what needs to be done, stop excusing yourself & make it happen.

As a male new to the BDSM world and curious about submission, and genuinely interested in learning more about it and about myself and where I fit into things (am I a sub, or am I more of a bottom, etc), I have to say it's really disinheartening. I see how the guys who place ads looking for someone to talk to or help them explore things get zero responses, while the girls get a zillion replies, and it's rather depressing.

First know what you want exactly & go for it.

Outsource. Use the internet as a tool, not as a main source.

Accept the reality that you may never find what you are looking for.

In spite of that, keep trying untill you get exactly what you want.
 
MorfeuV said:
First know what you want exactly & go for it.

Outsource. Use the internet as a tool, not as a main source.

Accept the reality that you may never find what you are looking for.

In spite of that, keep trying untill you get exactly what you want.
I can not argue with you, but I've converted to a new church as I have gotten older...

‘We in the Church of 80 Percent Sincerity do not believe in miracles,’ he said. ‘But we do believe that you have to stay alert, because good things happen."

80% of exactly what you want is pretty darn good.
 
I agree with a lot of the posters. I believe the reason the male sub is not taken as seriously as female submissives is the social taboo surrounding it. Men have been type cast as the warrior, the gatherer, the dominant sex. Women, on the other hand, at least as a social ideal, are meak, child bearing, rearing, under the authority of their husbands/ fathers/ etc. For a man to submit to a woman is to castrate himself.
Personally, I have had a few male submissives. I have found them just as willing to serve as My girls. Even more so on some levels.
 
MorfeuV said:
ALL FEMALE DOMINANTS ARE THE SAME & ALL MALE SUBS ARE THE SAME.
ALL MALE SUBS ARE WEAK.

EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

ALL FEMALE DOMINANTS ARE THE SAME & ALL MALE SUBS ARE THE SAME.
ALL MALE SUBS ARE WEAK.

EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

ALL FEMALE DOMINANTS ARE THE SAME & ALL MALE SUBS ARE THE SAME.
ALL MALE SUBS ARE WEAK.

EVERYBODY IN THE WHOLE WORLD IS EXACTLY THE SAME.

YOU ARE NOT A UNIQUE SNOWFLAKE.


Of coarse I'm being sarcastic again, & if anyone is offended by this I don't care.

To whoever this may apply:

Do you feel like you're not being taken seriously?

Do you feel as though you are being disrespected?

Do you want to be taken seriously?

Do you want respect?


If so, then do what needs to be done, stop excusing yourself & make it happen.



First know what you want exactly & go for it.

Outsource. Use the internet as a tool, not as a main source.

Accept the reality that you may never find what you are looking for.

In spite of that, keep trying untill you get exactly what you want.


Fudge, part of me is starting to like you.

'course I can't outsource yet, but I know well enough that new dimensions never hurt any bit of information.
 
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:p

'course I can't outsource yet, but I know well enough that new dimensions never hurt any bit of information.

Yeah.

I like having what I want.

When it's harder to get, I like it even more and I want more of it.
 
MorfeuV said:
Yeah.

I like having what I want.

When it's harder to get, I like it even more and I want more of it.
Like Krogoths. You can never have too many Krogoths.
 
RisiaSkye:
"I've been solicited as a Domme at every single event, and it ain't like I'm something so ever-loving special."

I beg to differ.

Why, whenever we talk, I have the urge to throw myself at the ground and expose my belly. I imagine I'll succumb any day now. When you call me this Saturday, don't be surprised if you hear a loud crash fifteen minutes into the conversation.
 
Of course, there is also an element of the population that simply doesn't take submissives seriously at all. Males may take more heat, due to gender (mis)perceptions and other stupid ego games.

Pure: I ran off track, because the general conversation itself was facile and there was little to contribute to it. I guess it's just surprising that the thread genesis ('why aren't male subs taken more seriously?') is a *question* when the answers seem so transparently obvious.

:rose:

RS
 
RisiaSkye said:
Of course, there is also an element of the population that simply doesn't take submissives seriously at all. Males may take more heat, due to gender (mis)perceptions and other stupid ego games.

Pure: I ran off track, because the general conversation itself was facile and there was little to contribute to it. I guess it's just surprising that the thread genesis ('why aren't male subs taken more seriously?') is a *question* when the answers seem so transparently obvious.

:rose:

RS

Damn Lady! I have missed you!

Eb
 
I take male subs very seriously. I am actually in need of one right now. PM.
 
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