Why can't we have a Scat, Bestiality, and Pedophile forum?

[graceanne]

Nah, ageplay doesn't count. Every time I've heard heard anyone say "no kids," they meant no one under the biological age of 18.

Same here. That's why it's got it's own term, so that people can be specific about what they do and don't like.

 

[BiBunny]

Same here. That's why it's got it's own term, so that people can be specific about what they do and don't like.

I ageplay. Children, on the other hand...hell, I can't even stand to sit near them in restaurants, LOL.

 

[graceanne]

I ageplay. Children, on the other hand...hell, I can't even stand to sit near them in restaurants, LOL.

LOL I don't blame you. Sometimes I don't want to sit near them in the restaurants, but they INSIST. *sigh* I tell them to go away, and they SAY that I'm their mommy, and won't believe me when I tell them that I don't have children!

I'm not really into ageplay, honestly, which goes to show that everyone responds to the same stimuli differently. I've been a 'grown up' for so long that pretending to be a child would annoy me. And I am surrounded by children, someone doing it TO me would REALLY annoy me. Men are childish enough without doing it deliberately.

 

[missy_me]

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[BiBunny]

The age of consent varies quite around the world bit and I believe the countries where it's even 18 aren't that many. Just sayin'. Of course the question remains, whether someone past the age of consent actually can consent, especially in those countries where the age of consent is somewhere around 10 or 12 years. But in the western world 15 or 16 seems to be pretty much the standard.

Of course. But I generally talk to people in the US, where the age of majority IS 18, so that's what I was referring to.

 

[Adakgirl]

especially in those countries where the age of consent is somewhere around 10 or 12 years.

Right... the same countries in which the young girls really have no consent at all but in actuality it is their parents consent that they have, not their own consent , usually the fathers consent. The parents tell them what and who they can or cannot consent too.

 

[HarlotMinx]

Wait, does this mean I can't start my Dolcette girl thread?

Actually in all seriousness, scat has about as much to do with BDSM as whips.... or for that matter salmon. They all could be used in a BDSM context but not by themselves. It's all in the manner in which we use it...... and really what the people involved consider it. As to incest and beastiality, I'm not going to touch that based on legality (well bestiality is not completely illegal in the US).

I'll admit I'm probably responsible for one of those "Are you serious? Ewwww!" threads and to be frank I was surprised. Not really because of the negative reaction, I saw that coming a mile away, but more because the reasons were limited to "that's gross". It was so... limited and reflective of social conditioning. Ultimately no matter how extreme you are there's always something that's too far out there that people don't want associated with their own umbrella.

That said, I'm not sure I agree that there isn't a BDSM umbrella. However I think what separates those who aren't in the bdsm 'umbrella' from those who are is that they choose not to associate. Christian from a muslim is whether they choose to associate there beliefs with any religion. They both have the similar personality traits, ideas, morals but a Christian is not a Muslim and vice versa... they're still people.

Ok, well, just call it Extreme Topics.

That way you can throw in all kinds of stuff. Consensual amputation. Selling slaves on the open market. Snuff. Female circumcision. Castration.

Seriously, I think it would be a hit.

I would like to point out that both amputation and castration are on the GLBT board... just poke your nose in any transexual thread.

 

[harrlequin]

It would be pretty shitty for the kids and puppies...

 

[Marquis]

In Re: Incest

I will admit to having a small collection of pornographic videos featuring twin sisters and it excites me very much when they not only have sex with a single man but also when they are sexual towards each other.


I am filled with shame.

 

[ecstaticsub]

In Re: Incest

I will admit to having a small collection of pornographic videos featuring twin sisters and it excites me very much when they not only have sex with a single man but also when they are sexual towards each other.


I am filled with shame.

I will admit to fantasies of my sister and I together with my PYL and training her to serve him. I have been trying out in my head whether or not I could do anything sexual with her and the closest I have come so far is sharing a kiss with her as we both lick and suck his dick.

 

[Marquis]

I will admit to fantasies of my sister and I together with my PYL and training her to serve him. I have been trying out in my head whether or not I could do anything sexual with her and the closest I have come so far is sharing a kiss with her as we both lick and suck his dick.

 

[MisterSir]

Wait, does this mean I can't start my Dolcette girl thread?

I knew I'd seen that term before so I Googled it. I just looked up the last time I posted about it. Turns out I warned people against looking it up on Google. Thanks, memory. What do I keep around for if you're not going to work?

 

[IsabellaKing]

I knew I'd seen that term before so I Googled it. I just looked up the last time I posted about it. Turns out I warned people against looking it up on Google. Thanks, memory. What do I keep around for if you're not going to work?

I had to do it.

 

[Shankara20]

In Re: Incest

I will admit to having a small collection of pornographic videos featuring twin sisters and it excites me very much when they not only have sex with a single man but also when they are sexual towards each other.


I am filled with shame.

oh dear
imagine how I feel about a similar collection featuring twin brothers having sex with a single man and also being a bit sexual towards each other


Anyone ever wonder why there is no material around about twins where one is male and the other female being sexual???

inquiring (and perverted) minds want to know

 

[Marquis]

Anyone ever wonder why there is no material around about twins where one is male and the other female being sexual???

I'd watch that.

 

[kitten_candy]

I'd watch that.

not exactly twins but brother and sister: i seem to remember a movie - Hotel New Hampshire - where brother and sister hooked up? Robe Lowe and Jodie Foster. i recall being completely shocked.

i've recently met someone who's kink is to put me in a cast. hip to toes. think i need to get to know him better before i'm that immobile. for some odd reason it appeals to me. the whole process. talk about the ultimate restraint. i imagine in real life though, it'd be messy and tedious. and getting the damn thing off!

 

[ecstaticsub]

not exactly twins but brother and sister: i seem to remember a movie - Hotel New Hampshire - where brother and sister hooked up? Robe Lowe and Jodie Foster. i recall being completely shocked.

i've recently met someone who's kink is to put me in a cast. hip to toes. think i need to get to know him better before i'm that immobile. for some odd reason it appeals to me. the whole process. talk about the ultimate restraint. i imagine in real life though, it'd be messy and tedious. and getting the damn thing off!

Tightly wrapped saran wrap head to ankle is similar but much easier to be cut out of. (I should say I would guess in some ways it would be similar I have never been in a cast from hip to toes)

 

[Sagittarian]

I am into bestiality myself and depending where you live, depends if it's illegal or not. It's currently legal in the following states:

Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Ohio, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Vermont, West Virginia, Wyoming.

Alaska and Florida are in the process of banning the act from what I have read.

I probably opened up a can of worms here, but eh. So what.

 

[SomeMight]

I knew I'd seen that term before so I Googled it. I just looked up the last time I posted about it. Turns out I warned people against looking it up on Google. Thanks, memory. What do I keep around for if you're not going to work?

Oh my.... I am blown away....

 

[ataxia.girl]

Nah, ageplay doesn't count. Every time I've heard heard anyone say "no kids," they meant no one under the biological age of 18.

That's not been my experience. Most doms i have met, especially on lit, who said "no kids" also included that to mean adult women who like ageplay younger than their comfort zone usually 14+. Why the fuck any woman would want to go back to being 14-18 is beyond me. Those were like the worst years of my like but i digress.

These threads confuse me and make me feel like an outsider. Because i like to be 5 i feel very out of place but on the other hand my Daddy ties me up and does a lot of the kinda stuff you all talk about all the time so is that not BDSM?

Same thing with incest. When people are against it are they only against actual incest or role play as well? And once again if its actual incest only does that really need to be stated??? my Daddy is definitely my Daddy in my mind but i have NEVER fantasized about my biological father. It doesn't mean there isn't an undercurrent of incest in my dynamic with Daddy though... the undercurrent of he is my Daddy no matter what i do. No matter what i do neither of us can change that He is my Daddy and i am his little girl... to me that comes from the incestuous part of the relationship. Your father is always your father whether you love him or hate him. If you are underage and live under his roof then you cannot get away... you are powerless. Being both nurtured and powerless is so yummy. Exploitation is my number one kink and ageplay is ideally suited. i guess if it squicked me out too much i could go blackmail and i have toyed with it a bit but its just not the same. The primal sort of devotion and need to preserve the relationship is not there.

Some of these things may not be about BDSM but some of them are definitely still very much about power exchange.

 

[BiBunny]

That's not been my experience. Most doms i have met, especially on lit, who said "no kids" also included that to mean adult women who like ageplay younger than their comfort zone usually 14+. Why the fuck any woman would want to go back to being 14-18 is beyond me. Those were like the worst years of my like but i digress.

These threads confuse me and make me feel like an outsider. Because i like to be 5 i feel very out of place but on the other hand my Daddy ties me up and does a lot of the kinda stuff you all talk about all the time so is that not BDSM?

Same thing with incest. When people are against it are they only against actual incest or role play as well? And once again if its actual incest only does that really need to be stated??? my Daddy is definitely my Daddy in my mind but i have NEVER fantasized about my biological father. It doesn't mean there isn't an undercurrent of incest in my dynamic with Daddy though... the undercurrent of he is my Daddy no matter what i do. No matter what i do neither of us can change that He is my Daddy and i am his little girl... to me that comes from the incestuous part of the relationship. Your father is always your father whether you love him or hate him. If you are underage and live under his roof then you cannot get away... you are powerless. Being both nurtured and powerless is so yummy. Exploitation is my number one kink and ageplay is ideally suited. i guess if it squicked me out too much i could go blackmail and i have toyed with it a bit but its just not the same. The primal sort of devotion and need to preserve the relationship is not there.

Some of these things may not be about BDSM but some of them are definitely still very much about power exchange.

Well, I'm with you on the ageplay thing. My entire relationship is not based on it, but there's certainly an aspect of it there. You and I are fairly close in our ages, too. You're 5; I'm 7.

Incest play is not my thing, but there's a huge difference in incest play and actual, y'know, incest. Hell, I don't really even have a problem with consensual incest, either. I wouldn't do it. But if two cousins or siblings or whatever wanna fuck, more power to them.

I can't say that I have had the same experience with people including me, a 25-year-old ageplayer, in with actual underage people. To me, that's another instance of comparing apples and elephants. But I will say that the ageplay aspect of my relationship is not one I talk about here very often because I don't feel that it'll be accepted/understood too well.

I don't understand why people conflate roleplay with real-life, but judging by a lot of things I see in various places, it seems to be a pretty common thing.

 

[N_B]

I don't understand why people conflate roleplay with real-life, but judging by a lot of things I see in various places, it seems to be a pretty common thing.

Can sum it up in two words : Though Police

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Well, I'm with you on the ageplay thing. My entire relationship is not based on it, but there's certainly an aspect of it there. You and I are fairly close in our ages, too. You're 5; I'm 7.

Incest play is not my thing, but there's a huge difference in incest play and actual, y'know, incest. Hell, I don't really even have a problem with consensual incest, either. I wouldn't do it. But if two cousins or siblings or whatever wanna fuck, more power to them.

I can't say that I have had the same experience with people including me, a 25-year-old ageplayer, in with actual underage people. To me, that's another instance of comparing apples and elephants. But I will say that the ageplay aspect of my relationship is not one I talk about here very often because I don't feel that it'll be accepted/understood too well.

I don't understand why people conflate roleplay with real-life, but judging by a lot of things I see in various places, it seems to be a pretty common thing.

I guess people can find it hard to understand that a person can want to engage with ageplay with an adult who is acting as a child, without having any paedophilic inclination towards actual children.

Personally, I've always been a bit touchy about ageplay because at almost 30, I still look 16 or 17. Over the years, I have actually been chatted to at random by a few guys that I swear were testing the water to see whether I might be a candidate for luring or grooming. A naive minor would not spot the odd nuances but I certainly did. If I thought a guy was attracted me specifically because I look very young, I'd be extremely upset. I have headed that off on a number occasions and I just am not comfortable with personally engaging in ageplay or roleplay (e.g. schoolgirl/teacher). I also could not treat a PYL as a father figure, call him Daddy or behave as anything other than a rational, experienced adult. I have issues with my biological father that go back years and as he was mostly absent, the concept of a loving father figure is a mostly abstract one for me anyway.

I'm not being negative about any of this stuff, I just really get why people find ageplay such as being 5 or 7 hard to comprehend/accept in open, public discussion. Even on a site like this, where you're a longtime member, you are reticent about discussing it and I completely understand that. If I was kinked that way I expect I'd keep it to myself too.

 

[N_B]

I guess people can find it hard to understand that a person can want to engage with ageplay with an adult who is acting as a child, without having any paedophilic inclination towards actual children.

Personally, I've always been a bit touchy about ageplay because at almost 30, I still look 16 or 17. Over the years, I have actually been chatted to at random by a few guys that I swear were testing the water to see whether I might be a candidate for luring or grooming. A naive minor would not spot the odd nuances but I certainly did. If I thought a guy was attracted me specifically because I look very young, I'd be extremely upset. I have headed that off on a number occasions and I just am not comfortable with personally engaging in ageplay or roleplay (e.g. schoolgirl/teacher). I also could not treat a PYL as a father figure, call him Daddy or behave as anything other than a rational, experienced adult. I have issues with my biological father that go back years and as he was mostly absent, the concept of a loving father figure is a mostly abstract one for me anyway.

I'm not being negative about any of this stuff, I just really get why people find ageplay such as being 5 or 7 hard to comprehend/accept in open, public discussion. Even on a site like this, where you're a longtime member, you are reticent about discussing it and I completely understand that. If I was kinked that way I expect I'd keep it to myself too.

I never have been good at that whole social interaction thing, so subtle nuances are lost on me. So I gotta ask - how did you know they were attracted to you specifically because you were young looking, and not that they were attracted to you for some other reason such as personality, or body type (not age) or abilities?

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I never have been good at that whole social interaction thing, so subtle nuances are lost on me. So I gotta ask - how did you know they were attracted to you specifically because you were young looking, and not that they were attracted to you for some other reason such as personality, or body type (not age) or abilities?

Ok... for posterity...

Alleged Paedo 1
I missed by TB inocculation when I was at school and couldn't go to uni to become a nurse without it. We have the jab in school at 14 or 15 years old. I booked in for the test and had the jab some short while later, leaving a fresh, raised spot on my upper arm. After it healed a bit I ditched the plaster and went out one night in a halter top, forgetting about the still healing spot. A guy stood next to me when I was waiting at the bar and announced that I was underage. I replied I wasn't, used to being assumed to be underage but in possession of legitimate I.D. Then he pointed out the TB jab scar and said it meant I must be 15. I told him again I wasn't. He offered to buy me a drink. I told him to fuck off.

Alleged Paedo 2
Was in a queue behind me when I was declined alcohol because I discovered I had left my I.D. in a shopping bag at home. I was about 19 and looked 14/15 (NB: legal drinking age in the UK is 18 and legal age for sexual consent is 16.) On leaving the store I got a text message and paused to check my phone. He came out of the store behind me and offered to buy me the booze if I waited around the corner. I thought what the hell, gave him the money and he went and bought me the alcohol. Then he walked with me, insisting he was going the same way, as I made a 10min walk to my friend's house. He asked if I was going to a party. I was. He asked if it would be supervised, I said no. Then he asked if he could come along and be my date. He must have been 35-40 years old. I declined, thanked him for the alcohol, ducked down a footpath and ran till I'd lost him as I didn't want him following me to the party.

Alleged Paedo 3
Sat on a bench and chatted to me while I was sitting outside a kids playpark, looking after a friend's children. This particular day I looked 13 or 14 as I'd been in hospital for a spell and was quite underweight, recovering from 3 months of tube feeding. I had my hair in a ponytail, no make up on and jeans & a T shirt. My biological age was 20. He had no kids, no dog or anything like that. He was middle aged. He offered me a cigarette and I declined. There were some teens sat on another nearby bench and he asked if I'd argued with them or something. When I said I didn't know them, he asked if I had a boyfriend. I said no. I would have left the bench then but one of the kids nearly fell from a climbing frame and I was distracted. Then he said he had lots of girlfriends at my age and liked to kiss them. I left the bench abruptly and joined the kids in the park. He took the hint and ambled off.