Why can't we have a Scat, Bestiality, and Pedophile forum?

[N_B]

Pedo # 2 and 3 I can see easily. That must have been just downright creepy.

Though, I can see myself, being the poor communicator that I am, being in Guy # 1's shoes because "Hey, if she says she's of age, she's of age. Who am I to argure? Well, we're talking, and I was just being a dick to her, the least I could do is buy her a drink to say sorry." and how that would come back to bite me.

 

[BiBunny]

I guess people can find it hard to understand that a person can want to engage with ageplay with an adult who is acting as a child, without having any paedophilic inclination towards actual children.

I think it's kinda like rape play or snuff play or any number of other similarly "edgy" things. Just because you like to play out those fantasies doesn't mean you'd actually rape or murder someone.

Personally, I've always been a bit touchy about ageplay because at almost 30, I still look 16 or 17. Over the years, I have actually been chatted to at random by a few guys that I swear were testing the water to see whether I might be a candidate for luring or grooming. A naive minor would not spot the odd nuances but I certainly did. If I thought a guy was attracted me specifically because I look very young, I'd be extremely upset. I have headed that off on a number occasions and I just am not comfortable with personally engaging in ageplay or roleplay (e.g. schoolgirl/teacher). I also could not treat a PYL as a father figure, call him Daddy or behave as anything other than a rational, experienced adult. I have issues with my biological father that go back years and as he was mostly absent, the concept of a loving father figure is a mostly abstract one for me anyway.

I have probably the greatest father in the world, and I'm not interested in Daddy/little girl play, either, though I understand why people might be drawn to that kind of thing.

My ageplay fantasies run more like thusly. When I was a school-age child, I would get raging little girl crushes on men 3-5 times my age. Occasionally, I'd feel that way about older women as well. I was already having masochistic fantasies at that age, so I'd tie up and do things to myself while imagining that it was the object(s) of my schoolgirl affections doing these things to me. Even then, however, I knew it was only a fantasy world and none of these people would ever (or should ever) do such things to a child.

That's pretty much how my ageplay fantasies go nowadays. Master and Mistress are the people that the little girl has crushes on, and she'll do anything they want for their attention. Because my tastes don't run toward Daddy/little girl or other variations like Mommy/girl, Uncle (or Aunt)/niece, or even babysitter fantasies, I find that I don't fit in with the other people on ageplay sites AT ALL. So mostly I just end up keeping these fantasies to myself because I can't really find a place where my particular brand of it would be understood.

I'm not being negative about any of this stuff, I just really get why people find ageplay such as being 5 or 7 hard to comprehend/accept in open, public discussion. Even on a site like this, where you're a longtime member, you are reticent about discussing it and I completely understand that. If I was kinked that way I expect I'd keep it to myself too.

Oh, I know you aren't being negative. Lots of people can be, though. I started a thread about it here once several years ago, and it didn't go over so well. It didn't turn into a flame war or anything, but I remember being unsatisfied at the turns the thread took.

Sometimes, I think about starting a new thread and trying to avoid the kinds of things that were brought up in the other thread, but I honestly don't know off the top of my head anyone but ataxiagirl and me who are really into it. I figured it'd either die a quick death or would be hijacked with a bunch of crap I'm not interested in, LOL.

So, yeah, I mostly keep it to myself, especially since my "little" personality is only an aspect of my relationship. My Owners call me slave/pet/little girl/laundry bitch, which encompasses most everything, I think. (I think "laundry bitch" is Mistress's favorite!)

/long-ass off-topic post

 

[JustAGrrlSearching]

Oh my

I knew I'd seen that term before so I Googled it. I just looked up the last time I posted about it. Turns out I warned people against looking it up on Google. Thanks, memory. What do I keep around for if you're not going to work?

I made the same mistake. It is rare that I am shocked anymore, but there it was.

 

[JMohegan]

I think it's kinda like rape play or snuff play or any number of other similarly "edgy" things. Just because you like to play out those fantasies doesn't mean you'd actually rape or murder someone.

Okay, I've got a question. No judgment, just curious here.

From the top side, for me, in rape play - I'm acting out (in a consensual construct) something that I really do have a desire for, i.e. actual rape.

I don't actually rape women, because I have a well developed superego and, further, don't want to go to jail. But the urge is there, most definitely.

From the top side, in age play, is the same thing true? Do the people in the adult role actually have the urge to interact sexually with children?

 

[BiBunny]

Okay, I've got a question. No judgment, just curious here.

From the top side, for me, in rape play - I'm acting out (in a consensual construct) something that I really do have a desire for, i.e. actual rape.

I don't actually rape women, because I have a well developed superego and, further, don't want to go to jail. But the urge is there, most definitely.

From the top side, in age play, is the same thing true? Do the people in the adult role actually have the urge to interact sexually with children?

There may be some who do. For the people I've played with, the answer's no. Maybe my examples sucked.

The common thread I've seen in ageplay is the fact that nobody actually loses sight of the fact that this is a fantasy. No amount of hoping and wishing is going to make me, an overweight 25-year-old who is nearly 6 feet tall and has F-cup boobs, a child. No amount of fantasizing is even going to make me look like a passable child, even down a long, dark, smoky hallway when viewed by a person who forgot to put on his/her glasses.

My body, even clad in girlish clothing, is not going to turn on a person who has an affinity for actual children. Does that make sense?

 

[JMohegan]

There may be some who do. For the people I've played with, the answer's no. Maybe my examples sucked.

The common thread I've seen in ageplay is the fact that nobody actually loses sight of the fact that this is a fantasy. No amount of hoping and wishing is going to make me, an overweight 25-year-old who is nearly 6 feet tall and has F-cup boobs, a child. No amount of fantasizing is even going to make me look like a passable child, even down a long, dark, smoky hallway when viewed by a person who forgot to put on his/her glasses.

My body, even clad in girlish clothing, is not going to turn on a person who has an affinity for actual children. Does that make sense?

Yes, it does. Thanks.

 

[BiBunny]

Yes, it does. Thanks.

Quite welcome.

 

[N_B]

Sometimes, I think about starting a new thread and trying to avoid the kinds of things that were brought up in the other thread, but I honestly don't know off the top of my head anyone but ataxiagirl and me who are really into it. I figured it'd either die a quick death or would be hijacked with a bunch of crap I'm not interested in, LOL.

So, yeah, I mostly keep it to myself, especially since my "little" personality is only an aspect of my relationship. My Owners call me slave/pet/little girl/laundry bitch, which encompasses most everything, I think. (I think "laundry bitch" is Mistress's favorite!)

/long-ass off-topic post

Why not, what's the worst that can happen? Give it a restart. I'd do it for ya, but I'm still the new guy, and well, I best leave that to the more experienced folk.

 

[BiBunny]

Why not, what's the worst that can happen? Give it a restart. I'd do it for ya, but I'm still the new guy, and well, I best leave that to the more experienced folk.

Thanks. I have some work I need to get done at the moment, but I may do it later. Perhaps that might be some interest, anyway.

 

[be_ignited]

Thanks. I have some work I need to get done at the moment, but I may do it later. Perhaps that might be some interest, anyway.

I'd happily participate. My D and I age-play a good bit, but like in your relationship, it's only one part of it. I generally find bringing it up squicks most people out, so I tend to wait for some else to broach the subject.

 

[BiBunny]

Bump because this is driving me pure-t batshit. This is the BDSM forum. Can we talk about BDSM already? Kthanxbi.

 

[Primalex]

Call it the SBP forum and let them have at it.

To answer the question why we can't have a bestiality and pedophile forum:
Because they would shut Lit down.

 

[bbwUK]

I don't think he is. It must be hard for people here sometimes because lots of 'vanilla' people/posters shove anything non-mainstream under the BDSM umbrella when it doesn't belong there. It makes 'safe, sane, consensual' practitioners of BDSM out to be far more deviant and morally questionable than they really are. Bestiality has nothing to do with kink, neither does necro or paedophilia (though undoubtedly power and control are used in child abuse).

It's not BDSM and it shouldn't be here. Beneath the sarcasm is a fair point. The notion that the BDSM community is some kind of haven for people like that is an insult to people here.

I think you are absolutely right, I do not practice BDSM but I am insulted on ppls behalf at any assumption that alternative lifestyles equal deviance and to compare consensual BDSM to child sexual abuse is ridiculous.

and I'm not gonna be tolerant to ppl who arent tolerant to others, and I exclude paedophiles from this because a child cannot consent to sex and in my humble opinion this is where the difference lies

 

[Slider1234]

i think there should be a voice for everything and anything.

its just text on a webpage forum. who gives a crap. if someone wants to write about a someone goin # 1 in their panties, they should have at it. we've all done it at some age, intentionally or not. i dont know one college guy who hasnt gotten drunk and downloaded dog porn to laugh at it w/his buddies. (i think putting little booties or socks on a puppy's paws is quite silly and i chuckle every time i see it). and pedo. 1st time category for instance. how many people want to write about losin the V-card at 16 or 17 instead of fibbing and making themselves 18. i bet a ton.

and i'm sure some people will be shock jocks about it because that always happens. so what. you post any one of these threads/topics and i guarantee a large % of the talking will be via PM rather than post, esp for the tabooer stuff as people dont want to go public on it

the censoring is BS in my opinion. obviously the people who run the site want a set of rules. and i respect that. thats their decision.

but i guess the point of this rant is that i get so effing annoyed at the people who read a topic and post how its disgusting and how people who dig the topic are sick or twisted or this that the other. one i came across tonight was incest. i got a hot cousin. id love to bang her. and im sure billions of other people wanna bang their relatives. (in high school chemistry class we spent a whole period talkin about who wanted to nail their cousin. and at least 7 people in 2 rows wanted to, and bragged about it) and this guy on the forums is all "oh u people are sick. blah blah blah. disgusting"

if you dont want to read it. dont read it. stop givin other people crap because it's not your cup of tea. i dont bother you and your love for the jonas brothers. and these are the same people who bitch and complain all they want about something they dont like, and then as soon as they face opposition to what they like, they have a shit fit.

i lost my train of thought. and i know forums are a place for everyone to voice their opinions and i respect that. but why pick fights and start crap. if you dont like it, skip it, ignore it, whatever. you dont have to go on a 10 post tirade about the people who like a particular thing because you dont. you should be skipping the thread entirely if you aint into it

i'm not gonna give crap to people who dont like what i like or like what i don't. i usually just skip over what i'm not diggin in a big big way. just stop ruining stuff for other people

now im gonna have to go bobby brown on your ass. i like what i like because it's my perogative.

and while i'm at it... low rider should be the official USA national anthem. tell me that wont get people up and movin and groovin

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Bump because this is driving me pure-t batshit. This is the BDSM forum. Can we talk about BDSM already? Kthanxbi.

Agreed. I've been pissed off with the bestiality thread... not so's you'd notice ... *bats lashes*

The moderators let it stand. That's their call but for as long as threads like that are given house-room here, people are going to bounce them over from other forums rather than delete them. People are going to see that there's a place here for bestiality enthusiasts. That irks me no end.