Why do people make the comments they do?

[GrimsPet]

Me personally I have always been one who can not only dish it but can take it just as well. I get a laugh out of the over the top "Your fucking sick" or "Worst author ever!" cracks. I mean what else can you do but laugh at them? If you take these types seriously you are going to get no where.

This is how Master and I dealt with comments made to one of his stories. One person posted "Klingons with fur." We both laughed at that one and just shook our heads and moved on.

The crowning glory was Master then used that line "Klingons with fur" in his story as a poke at the person. When I read it I just about fell out of my chair laughing!

Another person on the same story posted, "r u a muzzie?" Amusing at best. I'm still trying to figure out what a muzzie is...

It makes me think of that rhyme we all learned growing up..
Fuzzy wuzzie was a bear, fuzzy wuzzie had no hair, fuzzy wuzzie wasn't fuzzy was he?

 

[sr71plt]

I don't know why folks are compelled to make volunteered negative comments on the stories at all--especially on the writing of them. This is a reading pleasure site, not the New Yorker. I think those (and he knows who I am referring to directly here) who do so are boorish and just a bit too full of themselves (especially in view of his own offerings here. ) and trying to show some position of superiority that they haven't earned.

Sorry, but I think reality is that posters leave the comment function open because they want to hear that their stories have made an impression and aroused someone in the reading of it as much as it pleased/aroused the writer to write it, not because they want to get instruction on writing technique from someone with no known credentials for giving it. And I think very few who post stories here are looking for developing a writing career. If they are, I think they'll actively seek help by directly asking for it. And until/unless that happens the vigilantes should buzz off.

I recommend as I did the last time this happened to me that you answer that you've put the advice where you store all of your unsolicited junk mail.

 

[JENnRASP]

Providing the reader is making a sensible point. Such as; interesting premise but...
Or good story however, the grammar.

Past tense of ....

constructive yes. however the majority of negative feedback given in categories like incest and loving wives is generally just venomous bullshit.

Telling me I am a twisted fuck is not constructive. telling me I am the worst writer in the history of Literotica is not either.

The definition here of troll is that person not someone offering some advice or pointing something out in a fairly mature manner.

I don't know why folks are compelled to make volunteered negative comments on the stories at all--especially on the writing of them. This is a reading pleasure site, not the New Yorker. I think those (and he knows who I am referring to directly here) who do so are boorish and just a bit too full of themselves (especially in view of his own offerings here. ) and trying to show some position of superiority that they haven't earned.

Sorry, but I think reality is that posters leave the comment function open because they want to hear that their stories have made an impression and aroused someone in the reading of it as much as it pleased/aroused the writer to write it, not because they want to get instruction on writing technique from someone with no known credentials for giving it. And I think very few who post stories here are looking for developing a writing career. If they are, I think they'll actively seek help by directly asking for it. And until/unless that happens the vigilantes should buzz off.

I recommend as I did the last time this happened to me that you answer that you've put the advice where you store all of your unsolicited junk mail.

I agreed with both of your points... well-said! I got comments that were personal attacks, stating to pour acid on me or cut me into pieces...etc. How weird and violent can they be!

 

[BuckyDuckman]

well, if you want some comments write a Loving Wife story. you will get lots of nasty comments (and good ones), and lots of emails.

I just posted a story in the Loving Wife section. The first two comments I received were positive, however, both warned of "flames yet to come."

Being new to the site (but not to writing), I'm wondering if I committed a faux pas by not exploring the various sections better before picking the one I did. Based on your comment, I guess some sections attract more flame comments than others?

I have little interest in offending people by waving something offensive in their face. However, I have zero patience for people who aren't smart enough to realize they can change a channel, click on a new page, not read something...

 

[estragon]

I just posted a story in the Loving Wife section. The first two comments I received were positive, however, both warned of "flames yet to come."

Being new to the site (but not to writing), I'm wondering if I committed a faux pas by not exploring the various sections better before picking the one I did. Based on your comment, I guess some sections attract more flame comments than others?

I have little interest in offending people by waving something offensive in their face. However, I have zero patience for people who aren't smart enough to realize they can change a channel, click on a new page, not read something...

Bucky, LW is a free-fire zone, although of course neither you nor anyone would know that just from the title of the category.

It's rather like moving into a new town--you may not immediately know the neighborhoods not to visit, or at least to visit with caution, but one quick walk-through will show you convincingly, although perhaps painfully, which they are.

 

[Lynn_MXX]

Don't worry about it, some people are just plain rude. In fact this commenter made a horses arse of his/herself by stating that the author used the wrong homonym when if fact he/she hadn't, and now the commenter is being laughed at.

Agreed?

Full marks to the author too, for giving the reader the option of leaving a comment!

 

[nakdsub]

Sometimes

the only way some people can feel good about themselves is by trying to tear down everyone else around them.

 

[Lynn_MXX]

Here's an idea LissaSue, go back to the story where you read the rude comment and leave a comment of your own, something along the lines of what you told us in your original post, i.e. that you 'thought the author used all the correct homonyms, despite what the earlier commenter had said'!

Walla!!!

P.S. on second thoughts, maybe it's best to ignore the troller - who perhaps is hoping for some sort of response - and simply leave a positive comment of your own. I believe that the authors won't be too put out by the trolls as long as they're getting lots of affirmative feedback

 

[BuckyDuckman]

Hey, I can delete comments! What an maroon!

Okay, in your best Bugs Bunny voice, think of me and say, "What a maroon! What an ignoramace!"

That's certainly how I'm feeling about things. I sort of missed where we had the responsibility to monitor the comments made to our stories and the ability to delete them as needed.

So, I went back the story I posted in "Loving Wives" and looked closer at the comments. The ones that failed to address the story in any way, I deleted. I left the ones that addressed story content, even if I think it's a dumb comment. Honestly, some of the anonymous pinheads are damn funny with how stupid they are!

Oh, and just for grins and giggles, I've taken some of the most hateful, story related comments, and decided to use them as inspiration for a second part of the story. I wasn't planning on a sequel to the story, but now I can't resist. I'll update when it's posted.

 

[Lynn_MXX]

So, I went back the story I posted in "Loving Wives" and looked closer at the comments. The ones that failed to address the story in any way, I deleted. I left the ones that addressed story content, even if I think it's a dumb comment. Honestly, some of the anonymous pinheads are damn funny with how stupid they are!

Bucky, that quote tells us that you can see right through those 'anonymous pinheads'. What about the rest of us? Well, we can see right through them too, so why delete them? Many of us also find them 'damn funny with how stupid they are', but you deny the rest of us from seeing those comments by erasing them.

A good story will always be a good story and will attract lots of comments good and bad. There's no such thing as bad publicity (well, apart from spam, I would delete that every time)

I like to post a positive comment when I've read a story I've enjoyed. If it was so-so, I'll tell the author what I didn't like about it and he/she can take on board what I've said (and it isn't advice, Sir Split, just my thoughts) on board or discard it.

If I didn't enjoy it, I ignore it. Everybody does, take a look at the less-well-written stories, they have hardly any feedback

 

[sr71plt]

Well, we can see right through them too, so why delete them?

Because it irritates the hell out of them just to be wiped out.

 

[Lynn_MXX]

Because it irritates the hell out of them just to be wiped out.

I disagree, it's much more hurtful being ignored!

 

[sr71plt]

I disagree, it's much more hurtful being ignored!

You know that from the perspective of the troll how?

Their reactions to being erased tell me that (A) they don't think lack of response is sign of being ignored (this would be supported in their view by all of the folks who come here to complain about the trolls' comments) and (B) they really, really don't like being erased, because they often come back to rant about being erased (which can also be erased to further irritate them).

 

[lovecraft68]

I disagree, it's much more hurtful being ignored!

I agree, removing it encourages them to do it again. It justifies their purpose of harassing you. It goes back to the high school mentality of if you ignore a taunter they end up just moving on to someone who will pay attention to them.

 

[sr71plt]

We've been here before on this "discussion." You have erased comment from anything and the commenter has come back the second time you've done it? If not, you are just supposing. I've done it, and they've gone away.

I repeat, when you not only leave it up, but you come to the forum to pout about it, the trolls are just delighted. That's what encourages them to do it--the many "oh poor me" threads that are posted about it on the forums.

You are in their power. The very fact that you feel you can't erase it shows you are in their power.

 

[lovecraft68]

We've been here before on this "discussion." You have erased comment from anything and the commenter has come back the second time you've done it? If not, you are just supposing. I've done it, and they've gone away.

I repeat, when you not only leave it up, but you come to the forum to pout about it, the trolls are just delighted. That's what encourages them to do it--the many "oh poor me" threads that are posted about it on the forums.

You are in their power. The very fact that you feel you can't erase it shows you are in their power.

It is not can't, at least not for me it is won't. I will take the good with the bad. So far when I have received something ugly and left it up, it does not seem like they come back. If you would like you can scan through my comments. and see if you spot the same poster coming back again and again.

I haven't seen it. Honestly I have very little trolling (at least comment wise as I get my share of 1 bombs) considering the subject matter.

End of the day you remove them-as many do- because your colossal ego cannot bare to have someone see that someone did not like your story. That is the tru reason many remove comments. It hurts their thin skin.

 

[BuckyDuckman]

Story related keep - idiot wise, delete

Momma always said, "ignore bullies and they go away." But she also told me I'd go blind if I didn't stop touching myself.

I've been reading this back and forth with great interest as I work out what my policy shall be (always with an eye towards changing it on a whim). There are good points being raised on both ends.

Here's my middle ground: if the comment is about the story - I don't give a rat's ass what they have to say. It's their opinion and opinions are like assholes. However, if the comment is just hate speech, like, "You should fucking die," then it's worth deleting.

I can see getting tired of being the comment police, too. Personally, I won't feel bad about deleting the comments that have nothing to do with the story. If they want to go back and repost their deleted comments, okay. Personally, I doubt many of them have enough long term memory left to remember what they said.

 

[lovecraft68]

Momma always said, "ignore bullies and they go away." But she also told me I'd go blind if I didn't stop touching myself.

I've been reading this back and forth with great interest as I work out what my policy shall be (always with an eye towards changing it on a whim). There are good points being raised on both ends.

Here's my middle ground: if the comment is about the story - I don't give a rat's ass what they have to say. It's their opinion and opinions are like assholes. However, if the comment is just hate speech, like, "You should fucking die," then it's worth deleting.

I can see getting tired of being the comment police, too. Personally, I won't feel bad about deleting the comments that have nothing to do with the story. If they want to go back and repost their deleted comments, okay. Personally, I doubt many of them have enough long term memory left to remember what they said.

That is a valid point, and honestly like the topic in general, it really is up to the individual.

The problem is that one person here thinks his answer is the only answer and continues to shoot barbs at those with different philosophies.

Personally I will leave personal ones up as well. I think they're funny, but I have an odd sense of humor anyway. I also think people who see them get a kick out of them, but that is me.

I have removed 2 since I have been here. One, someone literally advertised another writers story, saying "this was okay, but if you want to read a real story.... so no I won;t deal with that (probably an alt of the author himself)

Second was one where mr any mouse accuse Literotica themselves of being racist because I used the "n-word" and they let me. I deleted that because they were calling out the site itself.

Other wise it's all good. and as for saying one way or another the troll is controlling you, then that is just taking this site a little to seriously

 

[sr71plt]

Haven't deleted any in years, Lovecraft--so much for your attack on my ego.

I don't get many negative comments, either (what I've gotten on one entry in the Halloween contest is more than the negative comments I've gotten in maybe three years).

You don't get many because you essentially have only one story here, and the trolls have lost interest in that many chapters ago.

Even as you admit, though, you have no experience to be commenting on this issue at all--but that's never stopped you before.

 

[Artina Heartflash]

I know what you mean. PennLady says it best.

My last chapter wasn't as well received as the previous ones. I expected that, yet it still bothered me some. Go figure. The upside is that I know I've created characters that the reader cares about. So I'm not going where he/she was hoping I would go. So what? It's my story. They'll either quit reading or not.

What's more, one comment actually sparked another story. I wouldn't have thought to write it had it not been for the words from someone who disagreed with me.

Well said. Turn trash to Treasure. Grow roses from crap.

 

[Bob Waters]

Because it irritates the hell out of them just to be wiped out.

THIS!

I got some personal attacks from one particular person - didn't sign but the writing style was the same in each - and deleted them. Well you would have thought I had killed his Teddy Bear Got a slew of 'how dare you' comments - which I promptly deleted until I got tired of the game and turned comments off for that particular story for a while to let it die down.

So delete what you wish and with luck it will irritate the hell out of the trolls.

 

[nakdsub]

So far I've deleted one

Check out the kind of stuff I get. My work seems to generate either really great comments, or the most vile of them.
Read the comments I'm getting on, "Bill and Amber, the reunion." I have deleted one so far and only because it started out calling me every name under the sun.

 

[elfin_odalisque]

The "advice" that first person, the most intimate voice, isn't appropriate for erotica, for instance, would be one of those "this is phony" flags flying that wouldn't pass the common sense sniff test.

I've never read any comment on Lit that first person POV isn't perfectly attuned for erotica but seen many pieces of advice from highly respected authors that differentiating and understanding the nuances between first person voice and POV is often too subtle for a new erotic author to handle easily and effectively.

Yet again you prove that quantity of submissions is no guarantee of quality of comments and advice.

 

[mikey2much]

What a cesspit of arrogant, introverted egotism - sr, you should redden on reading this bullshit. Read your comments above. They are so far removed with what goes on here that puts you on another planet.

Just relax and go with the flow. We are not experts, we just post or comment on erotic stories. Just rein in the intellectual arrogance and devote a tad of your knowledge to helping people without your immense knowledge of compound subjects.

BTW, Paco has gone, probably pissed off with you, and my contest entries sit on my PC. As you've never demeaned yourself to participate in a vulgar contest, I don't think you're in any position to throw stones.

I have gotten help everytime I have asked for it. In the past both sr71plt and elfin_odalisque have answered my calls. I think that a person's game is lifted only by dealing with people who are playing at a higher level.

If this was football, elfin-odalisque would be the big east and sr71plt would be in the SEC.

Paco Fear was one of the best writers here in MHO.

 

[sr71plt]

Paco Fear was one of the best writers here in MHO.

Good news for you, then. Paco Fear didn't go anywhere. Just doesn't post very often. (Right after what you quoted was posted PF posted something on another thread (in Editors) agreeing with me--so Elfin's post, once again, was only a figment of her crazy witch of the "just pretend" bile.)

Can I be the ACC instead?