Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Women and Strap ons. Please help me understand.

I meant your question about shemales.

Not the way CBM responded, though it may be a fair comparison, I can see how it would read like shit-stirring as it was more "in your face". lol was trying to encourage your participation if you wanted to.

Again, I was merely making the point that a male with breast implants, long hair and make-up does not a woman make. It seems to me that to think that the idea of a true lesbian having sex with a male-to-female pre-op tranny is akin to the idea of a hetero sexual male having sex with a guy who has a surgically produced vagina. Both hetero males and Lesbians are attracted to the totality of woman. I was simply saying that body parts and the accoutrements of femininity are not all there is to a woman.

It was not a personal attack on anyone. Although, the fact that it was obviously taken as such is very telling.

 

[lark sparrow]

Ding Ding Ding! Let the rumble continue.

CBM. I know - fair enough comparison, and I don't disagree. I have enjoyed reading your posts on the topic personally, and gather you are quite familiar with the strap-on and have some interesting ideas about the politics of the strap. I had a sudden, weak moment of wishing to divert flames lol. Regains my senses and watches the chips fall where they may.

 

[Never]

Cuckolded_BlK_Male:
"It seems to me that to think that the idea of a true lesbian having sex with a male-to-female pre-op tranny is akin to the idea of a hetero sexual male having sex with a guy who has a surgically produced vagina."

I don't believe that PBW ever suggested that a lesbian would be interested in a mtf pre-op. He seemed to say quite the opposite in his response to me:
"I am of course, speaking of women that have the operation to add a cock, not men that get operations to become women, except keep the cock."

PBWalker:
“This raises a weird question... would a lesbian enjoy being with a she-male? Just for the experience of being with a woman that does indeed have a real cock? I mean, all the feminine qualities are still there, just with a cock attached.”

It is a very weird question (meaning I’ve thought about it seriously at some point) and it would depend on the lesbian. I would first want a good reason for her decision to attach a cock to herself. Given that I would probably have an emotional/romantic attachment to a woman before I found out about her extra attachment, I would be inclined to try having sex with her.

There is a world of difference between my rational mind, my hive mind (the one full of ideas society has pumped me with), and my soft-good-smelling-people-with-breasts-make-me-wet mind. While I might be able to wrap my mind around a woman with a dick that does not mean I’ll be able to wrap my body around the same.

As I said, I will let you know if anything ever happens.

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Cuckolded_BlK_Male:
"It seems to me that to think that the idea of a true lesbian having sex with a male-to-female pre-op tranny is akin to the idea of a hetero sexual male having sex with a guy who has a surgically produced vagina."

I don't believe that PBW ever suggested that a lesbian would be interested in a mtf pre-op. He seemed to say quite the opposite in his response to me:
"I am of course, speaking of women that have the operation to add a cock, not men that get operations to become women, except keep the cock."

PBWalker:
“This raises a weird question... would a lesbian enjoy being with a she-male? Just for the experience of being with a woman that does indeed have a real cock? I mean, all the feminine qualities are still there, just with a cock attached.”

It is a very weird question (meaning I’ve thought about it seriously at some point) and it would depend on the lesbian. I would first want a good reason for her decision to attach a cock to herself. Given that I would probably have an emotional/romantic attachment to a woman before I found out about her extra attachment, I would be inclined to try having sex with her.]

Well, the reference to a real "cock" is confusing, as female-to-male trannies don't have real "cocks." They have either a "micro-penis" (which is just a slightly enlarged and de-sheathed clit) or a penis flap (which, while organic is no more a real dick than a carrot)


As I said, I will let you know if anything ever happens. [/B

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Re: Ding Ding Ding! Let the rumble continue.

CBM. I know - fair enough comparison, and I don't disagree. I have enjoyed reading your posts on the topic personally, and gather you are quite familiar with the strap-on and have some interesting ideas about the politics of the strap. I had a sudden, weak moment of wishing to divert flames lol. Regains my senses and watches the chips fall where they may.

It's not my intention to flame anyone. I'm just engaging in the free exchange of ideas and personal opinions. Curiously, some literoticians seem to be angered and inexplicably threatened (typical) by my gyno-supremacist flavored postings. Of course, I couldn't care less.

There is a good deal said that I don't agree with, but I'm not having an transparently denial-inspired hissy-fit about it.

 

[Never]

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Cuckolded_BlK_Male:
“Curiously, some literoticians seem to be angered and inexplicably threatened (typical) by my gyno-supremacist flavored postings.”

I prefer strawberry but as long as your posts aren’t coffee flavored I don’t have a problem with them.

 

[lovetoread]

Back to the original question, I want to do it to a man, not a woman, and I have no urge to be a "man".

I've posted for years about doing this, have gotten many offers of letting me do it. But thats not why I want to do this.

There is something quite intimate about being the one who "enters" another, be it a real dick or not.

I want to do it with someone that I love and loves me enough to try it.

It all goes to trust.

Is the one I am with able to trust me enough to let me do it?

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

It really is something to get "fucked" by a woman. The sensations of being utterly vulnerable to her are difficult to put into words ... especially when it's this late, and time to go home !!!

 

[Freya]

Re: Re: Re: what about those of us that have been fixed...

Tell the truth. Aren't you amazed and slightly agast that a guy wouldn't know that?

Slightly yes. I'd assume that men should know about their own bodies than we as females would.

 

[Ebonyfire]

I love to fuck my boys asses...

Why do I do it? Because:

a) I can.
B) I enjoy it.
C. I own those asses I fuck.

Simple, isn't it?

As for being a man, I subscribe to that old joke about the little boy and the little girl sitting next to each other and looking into each other's underwear:

The boy says "neh, neh you do not have what I have!"

The girl says " Who needs what you have when with what I have, I can get as many as yours as I want!"

Eb

 

[lark sparrow]

Back to the original question, I want to do it to a man, not a woman, and I have no urge to be a "man".

I've posted for years about doing this, have gotten many offers of letting me do it. But thats not why I want to do this.

There is something quite intimate about being the one who "enters" another, be it a real dick or not.

I want to do it with someone that I love and loves me enough to try it.

It all goes to trust.

Is the one I am with able to trust me enough to let me do it?

Trust becomes a bigger issue for me anally than vaginally, because it would be far easier to harm someone recklessly through the back door. I agree with your point.

I knew this guy that I played with (in a BDSM sense) one night a couple of years ago, and although we enjoyed one another, it was mainly a passing distraction for me, and exploring how far and what directions I could go in BDSM (yes, he knew I was of a lesbian orientation romantically/sexually). When he bought me the video "Bend over Boyfriend" for Christmas it was more than a small clue. Although slightly intriguing as an idea, I did not take the hint or ever play with him again. It did seem an intimacy that I was not comfortable in playing with considering my intentions or lack thereof. He might not have minded, but I did lol.

 

[P. B. Walker]

So when she pulls out the old strap-on, she's really saying she loves you. LOL <winks>

PBW

 

[lark sparrow]

Re: I love to fuck my boys asses...

Why do I do it? Because:

a) I can.
B) I enjoy it.
C. I own those asses I fuck.

Simple, isn't it?

As for being a man, I subscribe to that old joke about the little boy and the little girl sitting next to each other and looking into each other's underwear:

The boy says "neh, neh you do not have what I have!"

The girl says " Who needs what you have when with what I have, I can get as many as yours as I want!"

Eb

LOL I do like your style, Eb. No nonsense!

Would it be too invasive to ask if you consider it your "cock" and play on the taboos, such as oral "worship", etc?

 

[lark sparrow]

So when she pulls out the old strap-on, she's really saying she loves you. LOL <winks>

PBW

Giggles alot... something like that. Although additionally, I definitely realized that I had no long-term or serious interest in Topping anyone - male or female.

 

[lovetoread]

So when she pulls out the old strap-on, she's really saying she loves you. LOL <winks>

PBW

Isnt that what we have all been saying?

 

[KingII]

Lust looking in ..........

sittin here.... watchin ya'll get all warm an friendly ......


L

 

[mistresssilkeng]

So when she pulls out the old strap-on, she's really saying she loves you. LOL <winks>

PBW

LOL i thought it was when she put in the old strap on, she is letting you feel how much she loves u??

Silken

 

[lark sparrow]

LOL i thought it was when she put in the old strap on, she is letting you feel how much she loves u??

Silken

Mmm true, sometimes it is better to receive than give.

 

[mistresssilkeng]

Mmm true, sometimes it is better to receive than give.

LOL i have always found to take what i own, now that is the very best feeling

Silken

 

[apple3141]

Is This perhaps the cause of On-Strapping?

Having had three rather sinful years, each Lent, as my penance, was spent studying feminist literature.

Those of you who have endured the same pain will remember how much of the world's ills, especially sexual ills (and they are in the end all sexual, aren't they?) are caused by testosterone, at least according to the feminists.

The act of fucking, the thrusting the pushing, the grinding, is all automatic, it is caused by testosterone.

Well, has anyone else noticed, that of the posts in this thread, the most in favour of women thrusting into other female or male bodies with strap-ons are the lesbians? They are also extremely vehement in their writings, brooking no argument against.

I suggest (vehemently) that these people are in the grip of a large surplus of, yes, TESTOSTERONE!!!

Do you recall those tests done recently on sexual desirability of different types of men, where they wore virgin-white t-shirts for 3 days, after which they were given to a team of women to sniff and grade for sexiness. I would just LOVE to see this test extended to the testosterone-fuelled lesbians, to see whether women could distinguish between their t-shirts and those worn by ordinary guys. I think probably not. No fair rubbing your pussy with the t-shirt.

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

The pedantic rantings of yet another misanthropic misogynist are always good for a laugh.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: I love to fuck my boys asses...

LOL I do like your style, Eb. No nonsense!

Would it be too invasive to ask if you consider it your "cock" and play on the taboos, such as oral "worship", etc?

I do not call a dildo a cock. I call a cock a cock, and it is usually attached to a subby male!

lol As for his sucking my strap on dildo, that does nothing for me, I have better things for him to suck and to "worship".

Eb

 

[lark sparrow]

Re: Re: Re: I love to fuck my boys asses...

I do not call a dildo a cock. I call a cock a cock, and it is usually attached to a subby male!

lol As for his sucking my strap on dildo, that does nothing for me, I have better things for him to suck and to "worship".

Eb

This seems to be the overwhelming response here from most of the women and men who use or want to use strap-ons, regardless of orientation and sexual partners. Thank you adding to the sampling.

I guess we can say, at least in this forum for the people who use them, most of the time a strap-on really is just one of a great number of sexual tools, and has little to do with penis in the minds of those who actually chose to use them.

Of course if one has a penis, I can see how the immediate correlation comes up, as then one would naturally prefer to use their penis when planning to penetrate and forgo the strap-on dildo. But I think those of us who have spoken with female parts are happy with them, and suffer little from penis-envy.

Just as one wouldn't wish their fingers to turn into actual nipple clamps - though it would be useful at times, fingers have far too many better and necessary uses. So as well, would a woman (and her partner) want to keep her pussy, and use the strap-on for those fairly rare times, given a lifetime, when she wishes to penetrate someone sexually using something other than her fingers, tongue, etc.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: I love to fuck my boys asses...

So as well, would a woman (and her partner) want to keep her pussy, and use the strap-on for those fairly rare times, given a lifetime, when she wishes to penetrate someone sexually using something other than her fingers, tongue, etc.

It is also a very good way to stimulate a man's prostate gland, which in some circles is called the male g-spot.

I am big on prostate stimulation.

Eb

 

[lark sparrow]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I love to fuck my boys asses...

It is also a very good way to stimulate a man's prostate gland, which in some circles is called the male g-spot.

I am big on prostate stimulation.

Eb

lol I know - which is why I find it surprising when heterosexual men seem to have their masculine sensibilities offended at the thought of being on the receiving end of anal sex or stimulation. Seems they are naturally built to have heightened pleasure in this regard in comparison to women. Oh well.