Women who like to be taken forcefully

[cyberking001]

Hey everyone,

Sorry to get so philosophical and analytical about all of this!

It is just from reading the comments in the thread, then matching them up
both to my own past experience and to what is being brought up by women
regarding past abuses, that I could not understand the anticipation or pleasure.
However, thanks to those of you who have posted replies, I do think that I am
beginning to understand.

I forgot to add before, that even some "aggressive" porn is very hard for
me to watch (I don't, actually), but that I do not judge - to each his own
-- but I still don't understand (and never will) the thrill that some people
feel when they see innocent people, especially kids or animals, be abused.

All I would ask is that if that is the kind of thing that turns you on, especially
if you are the dom, is to leave it in the privacy of your own play space, and
to be courteous and respectful and humane in your outside actions and behaviour.

And thanks again to everyone who was thoughtful enough to respond.
Sam

 

[Cindy69love]

I have been forced by two men , during I was scared to death but later I got real turned on by it

I love to be forced!!

 

[cyberking001]

Hi again,

Here is the part that confuses (and frightens!) me ...

A few women have posted on here that they have been
forced, or even raped in the past ... and that they had
an orgasm, either at the time, or when role-playing the
rape with their partners, and that they even had the "need."

Please tell me ... is this not the legal argument that the
defence lawyers for the rapists always use in court? That
the woman was secretly (or not so secretly) asking for it
by the way that she dressed or the way that she flirted,
that she really enjoyed it, and therefore it was not rape?
That, in fact, she "deserved" it??? Does this make the
act of rape justifiable??? Does no actually mean yes?
Should a guy who is on a date with a girl who says no
force himself upon her because secretly she wants it?

In addition, how do we justify that argument when there
are rapists who prey on underage children??? And in light
of the current Epstein case, how do we justify sex traffickers,
especially (again) those who supply underage children?
What about Larry Nassar, who sexually abused 80 legal girls?
Or Bill Cosby, who drugged them before he raped them?
And what about boys (or men) who are raped and abused?
Where on this sliding scale do we draw the line?

To those women who were raped in the past ... and who
post here that you had an orgasm ... what, if anything,
would you like to have seen as punishment to the rapist?
What would you say to him now? Thank you???

I am sorry to be a downer in what should be a pleasurable
topic. I am trying to come to grips in my own mind with
behaviour that some find intensely pleasurable, even as
they conjure images of violence.

Thank you all again,
Sam

 

[AlwaysFara]

I miss Primalex.

 

[AlwaysFara]

Hi again,

Here is the part that confuses (and frightens!) me ...

A few women have posted on here that they have been
forced, or even raped in the past ... and that they had
an orgasm, either at the time, or when role-playing the
rape with their partners, and that they even had the "need."

Please tell me ... is this not the legal argument that the
defence lawyers for the rapists always use in court? That
the woman was secretly (or not so secretly) asking for it
by the way that she dressed or the way that she flirted,
that she really enjoyed it, and therefore it was not rape?
That, in fact, she "deserved" it??? Does this make the
act of rape justifiable??? Does no actually mean yes?
Should a guy who is on a date with a girl who says no
force himself upon her because secretly she wants it?

In addition, how do we justify that argument when there
are rapists who prey on underage children??? And in light
of the current Epstein case, how do we justify sex traffickers,
especially (again) those who supply underage children?
What about Larry Nassar, who sexually abused 80 legal girls?
Or Bill Cosby, who drugged them before he raped them?
And what about boys (or men) who are raped and abused?
Where on this sliding scale do we draw the line?

To those women who were raped in the past ... and who
post here that you had an orgasm ... what, if anything,
would you like to have seen as punishment to the rapist?
What would you say to him now? Thank you???

I am sorry to be a downer in what should be a pleasurable
topic. I am trying to come to grips in my own mind with
behaviour that some find intensely pleasurable, even as
they conjure images of violence.

Thank you all again,
Sam

I’m not justifying any of those things.
My sex is consensual. There’s communication. And limits and boundaries.
What goes on in between that is between the adults involved.

Stop trying to make it into more.

 

[MarciMay]

At the time I was raped forced what ever you call it , I was what you would have defined as a good girl, in school great grades, all that. My sexual experience was limited, I was no Virgin but no Mary Popins either. I was house sitting for a woman I had a relationship with and was out on her deck in the sun, a couple of friends of hers came by and when she was not there they wanted to hand out, I wasn’t very comfortable but I figured they where her friends, I went in to the bathroom and when I came out they where there and before I knew it I was in the bedroom being touched by the bigger one, they didn’t stop,they never hurt me like beat me , they where actually very passionate. I didn’t say yes and I didn’t fight back, and yes I had a couple orgasms.
After I asked my self why was I so scared but my body felt good , I was confused, this is what started my open and I’ll admit slutty attitude I have now, but relationships don’t work for me, me and the woman I was sitting for are off and on till this day , bf can’t handle their woman being a slut , sex is just that but guys feel you need to only be with them. It was a argument with one that lead me to GH and ABS Theaters, he said if I’m such a slut I should prove it took me and the third cock he couldn’t take it and left. Just a little that changed me.

 

[eroticspank]

Hi again,

Here is the part that confuses (and frightens!) me ...

A few women have posted on here that they have been
forced, or even raped in the past ... and that they had
an orgasm, either at the time, or when role-playing the
rape with their partners, and that they even had the "need."

Please tell me ... is this not the legal argument that the
defence lawyers for the rapists always use in court? That
the woman was secretly (or not so secretly) asking for it
by the way that she dressed or the way that she flirted,
that she really enjoyed it, and therefore it was not rape?
That, in fact, she "deserved" it??? Does this make the
act of rape justifiable??? Does no actually mean yes?
Should a guy who is on a date with a girl who says no
force himself upon her because secretly she wants it?

In addition, how do we justify that argument when there
are rapists who prey on underage children??? And in light
of the current Epstein case, how do we justify sex traffickers,
especially (again) those who supply underage children?
What about Larry Nassar, who sexually abused 80 legal girls?
Or Bill Cosby, who drugged them before he raped them?
And what about boys (or men) who are raped and abused?
Where on this sliding scale do we draw the line?

To those women who were raped in the past ... and who
post here that you had an orgasm ... what, if anything,
would you like to have seen as punishment to the rapist?
What would you say to him now? Thank you???

I am sorry to be a downer in what should be a pleasurable
topic. I am trying to come to grips in my own mind with
behaviour that some find intensely pleasurable, even as
they conjure images of violence.

Thank you all again,
Sam

All of those arguments above are very old, outdated, and debunked many years ago. I think we are getting pretty far from the main topic here. You can look online and do research to find out more about what I am talking about.

My statement earlier above, "The therapist said that an orgasm is just a physical reaction to stimuli and not to be ashamed if it happens during a rape." That statement alone and helped many rape victims, including me!

The same is true if you are tied up and tickled. You will jump about and even laugh if you are ticklish. That does not mean that you are enjoying it or like the person doing it.

ES

 

[AlwaysFara]

All of those arguments above are very old, outdated, and debunked many years ago. I think we are getting pretty far from the main topic here. You can look online and do research to find out more about what I am talking about.

My statement earlier above, "The therapist said that an orgasm is just a physical reaction to stimuli and not to be ashamed if it happens during a rape." That statement alone and helped many rape victims, including me!

The same is true if you are tied up and tickled. You will jump about and even laugh if you are ticklish. That does not mean that you are enjoying it or like the person doing it.

ES

Perfect.

 

[sally_sparrow]

I enjoy forceful play but it is always consensual. Nothing like that is done without talking about it first. If something comes up in the moment and I seem to be into it, he asks if it's okay and I'll say yes or no. If yes, he'll keep going. If not, he stops. Like many, I have a very demanding profession and love to lose control and not think during sex. I have my most intense orgasms that way.

 

[eroticspank]

Maybe you should consider that women are individuals, with individual needs and desires and fetishes and kinks. Some women like to be spanked. Some woman like gentle sex. Sometimes, the same women is into both those things!

An abuser doesn't care about consent. A woman fantasizing about being taken roughly is still in control of the fantasy, even if she fantasizes about giving up that control.

Well said all of your comments, especially these above. Just because you have a particular fantasy, it does not mean you should be treated poorly as a person. I can't explain why people do it, but some certainly do.

ES

 

[Jing83]

Agreed. It should still be on a situation by situation basis, not all the time.

Sometimes men take advantage women’s (natural?) submissiveness

 

[golden_thong]

I live for rough sex... simply just love being pinned down, hair pulled, spanked and gagged! Hearing his strong masculine voice demand me to perform specific acts is a major turn on! And giving deep-throat blow jobs in positions that allow the man to be in control of me? hot damn. I crave that raw emotion! You just need to be aware of your limits and open to talk about it - the rest is fucking good so go for it!

 

[swtgrlnxtdr]

I live for rough sex... simply just love being pinned down, hair pulled, spanked and gagged! Hearing his strong masculine voice demand me to perform specific acts is a major turn on! And giving deep-throat blow jobs in positions that allow the man to be in control of me? hot damn. I crave that raw emotion! You just need to be aware of your limits and open to talk about it - the rest is fucking good so go for it!

I totally agree.

 

[LauraWilling]

I live for rough sex... simply just love being pinned down, hair pulled, spanked and gagged! Hearing his strong masculine voice demand me to perform specific acts is a major turn on! And giving deep-throat blow jobs in positions that allow the man to be in control of me? hot damn. I crave that raw emotion! You just need to be aware of your limits and open to talk about it - the rest is fucking good so go for it!

As swtgrlnxtdr also said" I agree" This is exactly how I feel Being as small as I am it is easy to manhandle me by even the average sized and strength men so go for it with me guys after we have an agreement of limits, which I have very few, I love it.

 

[eroticspank]

I live for rough sex... simply just love being pinned down, hair pulled, spanked and gagged! Hearing his strong masculine voice demand me to perform specific acts is a major turn on! And giving deep-throat blow jobs in positions that allow the man to be in control of me? hot damn. I crave that raw emotion! You just need to be aware of your limits and open to talk about it - the rest is fucking good so go for it!

Well said! I think the raw emotion part is a very good point. I am usually very calm and stoic in person. I show some emotion but rarely a lot and rarely in front of or with my woman. Years ago I was with a gf and I lost control. I attacked her with raw emotion and she loved it. I was worried that I was close to rape but she saw it as the biggest compliment she could get that kind of emotion out of me and loved it.

She reacted to the situation a bit differently than described above and became Dominant. She began to encourage that kind of "out of control" sex by me and learned to tease me to the point of losing control. It worked perfectly with our personalities and she became more in control of our rough scene.

ES

 

[LauraWilling]

Well said! I think the raw emotion part is a very good point. I am usually very calm and stoic in person. I show some emotion but rarely a lot and rarely in front of or with my woman. Years ago I was with a gf and I lost control. I attacked her with raw emotion and she loved it. I was worried that I was close to rape but she saw it as the biggest compliment she could get that kind of emotion out of me and loved it.

She reacted to the situation a bit differently than described above and became Dominant. She began to encourage that kind of "out of control" sex by me and learned to tease me to the point of losing control. It worked perfectly with our personalities and she became more in control of our rough scene.

ES

I thought I said my two cents on this subject, but Eroticspank , you are so right! Like your girl friend I love that raw emotion that is right at the point of the man and sometimes for me a woman losing complete control I'm sure there are many women who do not feel the same as I do, but for us that do love and crave this, it is an incredible compliment and ecstatic joy.

 

[eroticspank]

I thought I said my two cents on this subject, but Eroticspank , you are so right! Like your girl friend I love that raw emotion that is right at the point of the man and sometimes for me a woman losing complete control I'm sure there are many women who do not feel the same as I do, but for us that do love and crave this, it is an incredible compliment and ecstatic joy.

@LauraWilling Thanks! And yes I now like both...the woman losing that kind of control with me and a woman getting me to do the same. When I am on the receiving end I can clearly see how it becomes an incredible compliment and turn on.

It was really a big turn on for me to see a very shy woman become transformed when she put on some lingerie and saw the effect it had on me. She slipped into a different role enjoying every minute of it. When I tried to bring it up later she blushed at her actions like she had done it drunk or under the influence of some drug. It was indeed a time of exploration for us both.

ES

 

[Karabare]

I have often wondered how many women really like to be taken forcefully with the man in control.
My wife is not normally into S/M or anything like it, but sometimes I take her quite forcefully holding her hands over her head while fucking her and sucking and biting her tits and when she sits on top of me I grab her hips and ass very hard and force her down on my cock - and when we have done this she says afterwards that it was really good to be taken like that and to be without control.
Ihave had a similar experience with an earlier girlfriend, who normally liked it very gentle and soft, but sometimes got off really hard when I took command.
I would like to hear from both men and women your experiences and whether or not this would be an indication of her wanting more in that direction - and how I go about it - your help will be appreciated.
You can either send me a private message or give your opinion here - Thanks!

This is good subject, thoughtful. I'm not really submissive but want the decision making taken away from me in the bedroom. If I really don't want something you'll have no doubt, so keep going until we hit that point.

 

[shelbakk]

Do women really? Honestly? Like rough forced sex?

 

[sally_sparrow]

Do women really? Honestly? Like rough forced sex?

Yes. It isn't for everyone. For me it is always consensual, but it can be rough and forceful. I find it erotic when my partner is turned on wildly enough to get there.

 

[tightmedicine]

Do women really? Honestly? Like rough forced sex?

Yes, many of us do. But again, like many sexual things, for some of us it's absolutely a turn-on and for others it's a no.
I see this question on so many aspects of sex and sexuality in here from deep-throating, anal and everything in-between. Clearly people enjoy it but not ALL people do.
If we all liked the same things, what a boring world it would be.

 

[sally_sparrow]

That actually is a complaint of many women. They have trouble finding a partner who is willing to be forceful enough to take them where they want to go. Apparently we men aren't as aggressive as we like to think we are.

It takes trust and communication but it's possible.

 

[sally_sparrow]

You're absolutely right. Maybe its the communication that us guys aren't good at. For some reason that can be tough sometimes, but when it happens the results can be amazing. I'm glad you're experiencing that.

It isn't always an easy subject to talk about but again, if it's something you want that is not something "typical" it should at least be mentioned. The more you can share openly the better for everyone. I'm assuming most men don't want to hurt their partner. Practice makes perfect. It isn't something I currently have, but I have had in the past.

 

[bored_Idaho_girl]

Do women really? Honestly? Like rough forced sex?

I like the fantasy of it, but have never had it in real life. Not sure I would enjoy it, but so fun to think about

 

[sally_sparrow]

I agree. I'm sure many men are afraid of actually hurting their partner, and in their dominant role they have a very important responsibility to make sure they don't. In the heat of the moment, with a sub screaming "More, more!" its easy to get carried away. He needs to know when to stop and remember that he is in control. On the other hand, many men, including myself when I first started exploring the world of BDSM, can't quite get their heads around the depth of the craving a sub sometimes has to be controlled, used, and made to hurt. (Without actual injury of course) It's that emotional, mental dynamic that is the most exciting for me.

It is an intense craving, indeed. I have been caught in the moment before asking for more when in actuality I couldn't take much more. It can be especially challenging for me with a medical condition where I have less sensitivity on one side of my body than the other. Sometimes I push too hard without realizing. It's hard to find someone who can work with me so communication is everything.