Worst/Favourite Feedback You've Received

[talismania]

I see my comment page as a kind of bulletin board for that story. If someone posts something that's plainly meant to be nothing more than filth or graffiti on that space, I will delete it because it contributes nothing to the discussion except its own "I'm going to crap here on your comments" presence. Things like "You suck" qualify.

I don't see why any writer needs to leave up what amounts to bird crap on their windshield.

 

[autoplot]

I have to agree with lovecraft on this one. Trolls can't distinguish between positive and negative attention. They feel equally validated if someone considers them a comic genius or an idiot who's wasting their life. If you pay attention to them at all, you're giving them what they crave.

 

[sr71plt]

I have to agree with lovecraft on this one. Trolls can't distinguish between positive and negative attention. They feel equally validated if someone considers them a comic genius or an idiot who's wasting their life. If you pay attention to them at all, you're giving them what they crave.

They feel empowered (over you) that you would feel constrained to leave their comment on your story. They wouldn't have written their comment if they didn't want it sitting there dirtying up your story.

Erasing their comments erases their existence. That's hardly what a troll wants.

But do as you like. I don't get many troll comments--probably because I don't write stuff that invites them and challenges them--so I've rarely erased any.

 

[autoplot]

They feel empowered (over you) that you would feel constrained to leave their comment on your story. They wouldn't have written their comment if they didn't want it sitting there dirtying up your story.

Erasing their comments erases their existence. That's hardly what a troll wants.

I'm just going off my personal experience. I once got extensively trolled by someone on another board who was determined to get a rise out of me. He made it clear that if I responded to him, it was clear that he was "getting to me" and that constituted a victory on his part. When I stopped responding to him, he claimed that I obviously couldn't handle his wit and so that was also victory.

In a lot of ways, I don't think there is one perfect right answer, but I prefer not to acknowledge them at all, because it denies them the attention they want so much.

 

[GinaTina]

The only comment I've ever deleted was an actual spam-bot who left an advertisement on one of my chapters.


All other comments stay up. Good or bad.

 

[sr71plt]

I'm just going off my personal experience. I once got extensively trolled by someone on another board who was determined to get a rise out of me. He made it clear that if I responded to him, it was clear that he was "getting to me" and that constituted a victory on his part. When I stopped responding to him, he claimed that I obviously couldn't handle his wit and so that was also victory.

In a lot of ways, I don't think there is one perfect right answer, but I prefer not to acknowledge them at all, because it denies them the attention they want so much.

You are acknowledging them when you don't just erase their comments--you are acceding to their power to have nasty comments appended to your story.

Did you have the option of erasing his comments on the other board? If not, that really has no relevance to what you can do here. The ability to erase their comments on your stories here makes them functionally impotent.

On discussion boards where the moderator just constantly erases troll comments, the trolls go away to someplace where they aren't erased (like here, to Lit., on the forum boards).

Again, it's fine with me if you leave the comments there--I've erased very few. But I haven't the least doubt that the trolls want their comments there and they want to have the feeling of power that you can't do anything about it. But here, on the stories, you can do something about it, if you want. You can reject the troll's power to slap their comments on your story. And, yes, the troll can then claim they've caused you to do that--but it's only true if you knuckle under to their definitions. You don't have to do that either. And each time they come back to claim that, you can erase that too. Trust me, they won't stick around long if everything they post is erased.

 

[autoplot]

I have blogs and other web sites where trolls show up -- I don't delete troll comments there, either. But yeah, to each his own.

 

[KarlMartinK]

I delete the troll comments, too. I've left a few of the negative comments and all of the positive comments when they're constructive.

 

[sr71plt]

I have blogs and other web sites where trolls show up -- I don't delete troll comments there, either. But yeah, to each his own.

Again, on how many of them do you have the privilege of deleting the comments of others--as you do here on Lit.?

Three times a week we get outraged complaints here about troll comments on stories. Besides the fact that this reaction in itself delights the trolls, this Web site gives you the option of either turning off comments altogether, turning off anonymous comments, or erasing comments. So, there's no real reason for the regular angry complaint posts. If you are in the "just suck it up" group, just suck it up. If you are truly upset, just use one of your options to make it go away. The power on story comments here is with you, not the trolls--unless you give the power to the trolls.

 

[KarlMartinK]

Again, on how many of them do you have the privilege of deleting the comments of others--as you do here on Lit.?

Three times a week we get outraged complaints here about troll comments on stories. Besides the fact that this reaction in itself delights the trolls, this Web site gives you the option of either turning off comments altogether, turning off anonymous comments, or erasing comments. So, there's no real reason for the regular angry complaint posts. If you are in the "just suck it up" group, just suck it up. If you are truly upset, just use one of your options to make it go away. The power on story comments here is with you, not the trolls--unless you give the power to the trolls.

I don't think I've ever found one that upset me. I've had a few I didn't understand and some that made me think, "What did you think you were going to find in the story?" Sometimes, the expectations aren't really realistic.

 

[autoplot]

Again, on how many of them do you have the privilege of deleting the comments of others--as you do here on Lit.?

All of them. I was talking about blogs / sites that I have ownership of.

Anyway, cheers.

 

[sr71plt]

All of them. I was talking about blogs / sites that I have ownership of.

Anyway, cheers.

Well, try just deleting the offending posts--and then the next ones from the same offender as well--and let us know if that didn't convince that particular troll just to waft away to somewhere else.

I cannot conceive that a troll will stay around where he/she is denied airspace.

 

[lovecraft68]

Well, try just deleting the offending posts--and then the next ones from the same offender as well--and let us know if that didn't convince that particular troll just to waft away to somewhere else.

I cannot conceive that a troll will stay around where he/she is denied airspace.

When you delete their comment and they come back again, and you delete them again they are getting the best of it. They know that when ever you see them you say "again!" and sigh and delete them. Now whether that is your reaction or not that is how they think.

Look at the immaturity over on the GB. If they start on you and you go back and forth they get more and more vile, you are feeding and fueling them. Then the second you don;t respond they laugh and say "ha now he is ignoring us! baby!"

So at the end of the day there is no real "winning" solution it is up to each author to decide how he wants to handle it. My method is to let them stay there. If nothing else it tells the rest of my readers that this shit does not bother me.

IMO it also shows that I am fair. Every author leaves up those ego stroking your the best author ever remarks. Not many leave up comments like the one I posted here a few pages back saying my writing goes on and on like an over flowing drain.

I am not so arrogant that I can't let people spout negative shit about me as well as positive.

You see it the other way and always will. To each their own.

 

[sr71plt]

When you delete their comment and they come back again, and you delete them again they are getting the best of it.

No they don't. They get frustrated at the inability to have their say, and they go away. They live to be noticed--to have power over you that you can't do anything about--not to be nonexistent.

The GB has no relevance. You can't delete the comments there.

You are just giving them power over you by feeling you can't just delete whatever they post to your story.

And we are going around in circles here.

 

[lovecraft68]

No they don't. They get frustrated at the inability to have their say, and they go away. They live to be noticed--to have power over you that you can't do anything about--not to be nonexistent.

The GB has no relevance. You can't delete the comments there.

You are just giving them power over you by feeling you can't just delete whatever they post to your story.

And we are going around in circles here.

Okay I was going to let this go, but decided I can't

You said a few posts up that you get trolled infrequently. Yet of course you know all about the best way to deal with them.

I write in a genre that is a pinata for them (probably second only to loving wives) and deal with it all the time though not just the public board but a ton of nasty Lit feedback e-mails and I'm of course wrong.

You in a microcosm no experience but know everything.

 

[sr71plt]

Okay I was going to let this go, but decided I can't

You said a few posts up that you get trolled infrequently. Yet of course you know all about the best way to deal with them.

I write in a genre that is a pinata for them (probably second only to loving wives) and deal with it all the time though not just the public board but a ton of nasty Lit feedback e-mails and I'm of course wrong.

You in a microcosm no experience but know everything.

The other way to look at that is that I've dealt with them effectively and you haven't.

To prove your point, start erasing the comments of the ones you can identify as trolls--and erase the followup too--and report if they don't go away.

I've done that and they have.

Again, probably why I have them infrequently and you don't.

I write in a genre that is a magnet for zapping too--although I think they do that primarily with the voting rather than comments.

As far as "macrocosm" of experience, I've tried it all ways--and you apparently haven't tried the way I've suggested. And I've been doing it a hell of a lot longer than you have with a hell of a lot more stories spread over a hell of a lot more categories.

 

[sr71plt]

My goodness, Lovey, you've suddenly gone silent. The truth is that you haven't been on Lit. long enough to even know where the bathroom is, and your story file is a one-note samba. Which, of course, doesn't stop you from acting like an expert on how the world works around here.

 

[SydneyBlake]

My goodness, Lovey, you've suddenly gone silent. The truth is that you haven't been on Lit. long enough to even know where the bathroom is, and your story file is a one-note samba. Which, of course, doesn't stop you from acting like an expert on how the world works around here.

You girls need to be quiet. Mama's trying to take a nap.

 

[Nina21]

Wow, I got confused for a second and thought I'd gone to the general board.

 

[lovecraft68]

My goodness, Lovey, you've suddenly gone silent. The truth is that you haven't been on Lit. long enough to even know where the bathroom is, and your story file is a one-note samba. Which, of course, doesn't stop you from acting like an expert on how the world works around here.

Ahh Pilot. You always have to have the last word don't you? Has it ever occurred to you that you yourself are as troll? Because you are and there are many others here who would agree.

Several times in this recent discussion I said "to each their own" and "it is really up to each author" meaning that I am not saying you are wrong and I am right. Simply because at the end of the day there is no real by the book way to deal with trolling, its up to the individual I merely stated what I do and why I feel it works.

But see to each their own is not good enough for someone like your self who suffers from delusions of grandeur. It HAS to be your way. You have to be right. It kills you to think that any of us little insignificant ants do not hearken to your almighty wisdom.

As for my writing? My one note story? Once again you look at what you do and want to impose it upon others. I don't write in other categories because I don't feel like it. I write for a reason you no longer understand: Fun.

Why would I sit down and say "okay going to try to push out a loving wives story" when I have no desire to. Should I do it to prove that I can? Prove it to who, you? Only insecure, yet ego driven fools like you, have something to prove.

On my story itself, by the time it is finished it will be the equivalent of at least a trilogy possibly more and will eventually be published as such. Lit is my practice and by having people push me by begging for the next installment it has pushed me to keep going.

So in your mind a long running series does not equal your plethora of short dirty little tales? Please, it takes more focus, thought and sheer willpower to drive something that contains the depth and scope of what I am working on. I have accomplished the feat of taking two completely detestable characters, who are committing one of the most frowned upon sexual acts there is, and gotten people to sympathize and become attached to them.

I have also done all this with no formal training at all (as is exhibited in my admittedly weak grammar) Unlike yourself I have not spent a lifetime being trained and educated in this field. I write from raw emotion, inner darkness, and am driven by assholes like you, who think you're better than the rest of us.

Know what else I don't have? A co-writer. Know why? Because I don't need one.

In the end all it boils down to is your pathetic refusal to be able to accept anyone that does not do exactly as you do. Most people here write for fun not profit and you do everything you can to ruin it for them. How many newbies do you start to try to help but the second they have the nerve to have a question you all but tell them to quit? That is why you are a troll.

You're obviously a great technical/ mechanical writer. Creatively I, and many others here, can blow you away. I know you will never "go slumming" and read my work and I'm fine with that, but trust me I am no "scouries" Just because I delve into lit's sleaziest category doesn't mean my work does not have some substance to it.

Matter of fact there are a few who post here who have read my work and you would be surprised at their reactions to it. There is a writer here who many heap a lot of well deserved praise upon, who has actually begun to help me with my technical writing because they believe my work is that good that they want to help.

I won't name drop because that is something you and your ego would do. Speaking of your ego, you can take your little green E's and take them for what they are worth: nothing. The people who run the site like your work, that's all it means. You are a teachers pet, the kid who always had his hand up. The favorite. Also the green E's to me lose their shine when the person who gets them has to be the one to tell people they got them.

Look at me!!

No one's looking Pilot and if they are they're thinking what I am; what a pompous asshole.

Now go ahead and release and insulting response, because what I am going to do is what I do to the trolls, let it sit there unresponded to and move on. Because I unlike you don't care.

 

[sr71plt]

Ahh Pilot. You always have to have the last word don't you? Has it ever occurred to you that you yourself are as troll? Because you are and there are many others here who would agree.

Apparently not. You came back two days later with follow up.

We'll just let the "many others" speak for themselves, shall we?

Several times in this recent discussion I said "to each their own" and "it is really up to each author" meaning that I am not saying you are wrong and I am right. Simply because at the end of the day there is no real by the book way to deal with trolling, its up to the individual I merely stated what I do and why I feel it works.

This is all irrelevant. You attacked my ability to speak to the issue. And that's what I responded to.

The rest is just you and your "big bag of wind" ways. I didn't even read any further into it than this.

Now, if you want for there to be any credence in MY always having to have the last word, you'll just shut up on the personal attacks that aren't responsive to the thread, won't you?

 

[autoplot]

At this point I think sr71plt's just trolling to prove his own point. "See, you responded to me and played right into my hands! I have all the power!" It's forum performance art.

 

[sr71plt]

At this point I think sr71plt's just trolling to prove his own point. "See, you responded to me and played right into my hands! I have all the power!" It's forum performance art.

Who doesn't post to make his/her own point--rather than the point being inferred to her/him (which is also forum performance art, isn't it)?

I suggested a way not to be repeatedly harrassed by a negative commenter on stories. This was rejected by someone who hasn't even tried it who then questioned my comparative expertise for even commenting on the issue--to which I pointed out having more than twice the number of years posting stories here, more the ten times the number of stories posted--and in fourteen more story categories. I was responding to the harassing remarks of a negative commenter who was/is full of bull.

 

[estragon]

You girls need to be quiet. Mama's trying to take a nap.

Oh, Sydney dear, it won't stop until they grow up and leave the house.

 

[SydneyBlake]

Oh, Sydney dear, it won't stop until they grow up and leave the house.

Damn!