A HUSBAND'S PAYBACK ON TROPHY WIFE

[MsYesMaybe]

A HUSBAND'S PAYBACK ON TROPHY WIFE TURNS INTO A REAL SHOW STOPPER

Harold is so upset at his wife Jillian for the way she dismisses his complaints about the dresses she wears to his company's parties he decides on the night of the company’s big end-of-the year awards event not to tell her that every time she is standing directly under any of the ballroom’s bright ceiling lights it caused a diaphanous effect the delicate white material of her strapless Cavalli gown (which had already he deemed it "too sexy"and sparked an argument at home lasting the entire drive to the ballroom).

Harold tells himself any of the many guests in attendance would approach Jillian within the next 10 mins and give her the embarrassing news of the views she unwittingly is giving. Naturally she would come to him and insist they leave immediately to which he would agree (relieved he could cut short the boring misery of the event).

However, the very opposite happens: as the evening continues no one tells Jilliani and Harold can see the men love the views given by a tipsy Jillian Their delight heightened by how clueless Jillian is of it. And whenever his tipsy wife - behavIng in a way she never had before from a few champagnes - strays away from under a light one of his colleagues is able to easily guide her back.

And as the evening event continues…things begin to happen increasingly seem by design to inexorably draw Jillian into being convinced to go onstage with Royce- the biggest rival colleague Harold has and the one he’s intimidated by - for the closing speech. Once there, Royce sneakily setsup the floor length hem of her gown for a wardrobe malfunction under the approving anticipation the audience are for her appearance onstage while Harold finds himself the most aroused he's ever been as he watches Jillian's ditzy discovery and her HELPLESS just before Royce pretends to assist, but intends her gown rip down from around her body, making Kelli a real “show stopper” no one will forget.

 

[Husky_Embrace]

I have NO IDEA why we are SCREAMING all the time.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I love the trophy wife idea in general. He loves other men desiring her and she loves the attention so it's a win-win and their sex life is terrific. She's utterly gorgeous, the sort hat other women hate on sight and he's made sure her wardrobe is enviable as well. The company party is very tropey, but that's fine. This Christmas though, the bosses wife is tired of being upstaged and plans her revenge. Does it succeed or backfire?

In my minds eye, our trophy wife's drinks are made deceptively strong and the bosses wife separates the hot blonde from the party under false pretences and plans to corral her in a bedroom with two studs and photograph her being ravished. But when the woman are alone the trophy wife drunkenly admits that she's got a tremendous crush on her!

Plans change dramatically at that point.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Embedded links always spell spammy.

 

[MsYesMaybe]

I love the trophy wife idea in general. He loves other men desiring her and she loves the attention so it's a win-win and their sex life is terrific. She's utterly gorgeous, the sort hat other women hate on sight and he's made sure her wardrobe is enviable as well. The company party is very tropey, but that's fine. This Christmas though, the bosses wife is tired of being upstaged and plans her revenge. Does it succeed or backfire?

In my minds eye, our trophy wife's drinks are made deceptively strong and the bosses wife separates the hot blonde from the party under false pretences and plans to corral her in a bedroom with two studs and photograph her being ravished. But when the woman are alone the trophy wife drunkenly admits that she's got a tremendous crush on her!

Plans change dramatically at that point.

Yes "company party" it is very tropey. Especially when used as a reductive two-word oversimplification of the original and much more specific description: "the company’s big end-of-the year awards event."

However to then suggest the most common cliche trope of "Christmas" as a theme? And then the entirely unrelated "boss's wife" upset at the go-to vague "upstaged" issue. What is the nature of the upstaging that would drive her to revenge with a plan somehow "corral" Kelli - unseen by anyone everywhere at the party, which is now at some unknown venue rather than the original and more specific venue of the ballroom - its descriptive depiction of high bright ceiling lights and performant sized stage where Kelli can be much more convincingly brought up on to - itself is a character in how its ceiling lights and stage actively lend to the ending.

What is this new venue? You mention "a bedroom" (the most tropey of trope cliches) as where "two studs" (quite a double down on the "stud" trope. who are they? how did the revenge driven (tropeiest motivtation) boss's wife enlist them to "ravish" (a "bodice ripping" genre trope i'd say) while she "photographs" (blackmail? that old trope in this digital age? how is she going to be able to take pics of any use in a dark bedroom? if lights are on, how will she remain unnoticed? a two way mirror cliche?)

And that ending. The cartoonish sudden turn to (unsurprisingly at this point) another cliche is impossibly nonsensical and just feels so kitchen sink kink.

With due respect, your ideas suggested entirely disregard every detailed aspect - as written, all the furthest away from "tropey" - replaced with non-stop "tropes." And yes, I'm harping on the world for that last aforementioned reason. Had any of your suggestions been creative or the tiniest bit unique or interesting or realistic, I would have let slide your reductive "company party" suggest the real end-of-the-year award event held in a defined ballroom venue - where no "bedroom" trope can be used. My point is your suggestion seems more like a contrarian prank or clownish joke, quite frankly.

 

[Rob_Royale]

My point is your suggestion seems more like a contrarian prank or clownish joke, quite frankly.

Counter point - as this is an open forum, I get to write whatever I want, regardless of whether you find it useful.
I participate on this forum a lot. And I do it because I find it fun and entertaining. If anyone finds my suggestions useful, hey that's great. Win-win. If you don't, and for some reason, are triggered enough to dissect everything I wrote and criticize it ... that's pretty entertaining too. Have a good one.

 

[dirk2024]

Yes "company party" it is very tropey. Especially when used as a reductive two-word oversimplification of the original and much more specific description: "the company’s big end-of-the year awards event."

However to then suggest the most common cliche trope of "Christmas" as a theme? And then the entirely unrelated "boss's wife" upset at the go-to vague "upstaged" issue. What is the nature of the upstaging that would drive her to revenge with a plan somehow "corral" Kelli - unseen by anyone everywhere at the party, which is now at some unknown venue rather than the original and more specific venue of the ballroom - its descriptive depiction of high bright ceiling lights and performant sized stage where Kelli can be much more convincingly brought up on to - itself is a character in how its ceiling lights and stage actively lend to the ending.

What is this new venue? You mention "a bedroom" (the most tropey of trope cliches) as where "two studs" (quite a double down on the "stud" trope. who are they? how did the revenge driven (tropeiest motivtation) boss's wife enlist them to "ravish" (a "bodice ripping" genre trope i'd say) while she "photographs" (blackmail? that old trope in this digital age? how is she going to be able to take pics of any use in a dark bedroom? if lights are on, how will she remain unnoticed? a two way mirror cliche?)

And that ending. The cartoonish sudden turn to (unsurprisingly at this point) another cliche is impossibly nonsensical and just feels so kitchen sink kink.

With due respect, your ideas suggested entirely disregard every detailed aspect - as written, all the furthest away from "tropey" - replaced with non-stop "tropes." And yes, I'm harping on the world for that last aforementioned reason. Had any of your suggestions been creative or the tiniest bit unique or interesting or realistic, I would have let slide your reductive "company party" suggest the real end-of-the-year award event held in a defined ballroom venue - where no "bedroom" trope can be used. My point is your suggestion seems more like a contrarian prank or clownish joke, quite frankly.

Oh my. Aren't you a ray of sunshine.

 

[MsYesMaybe]

Counter point - as this is an open forum, I get to write whatever I want, regardless of whether you find it useful.
I participate on this forum a lot. And I do it because I find it fun and entertaining. If anyone finds my suggestions useful, hey that's great. Win-win. If you don't, and for some reason, are triggered enough to dissect everything I wrote and criticize it ... that's pretty entertaining too. Have a good one.

Quantity doesn't mean quality, Rob.

And I have the same right to write in response to what I see fit. And unfit as the case may be. And when I do, it won't just be a flat critique. As made clear and simple to read, I gave examples and reasons behind everything I constructively disagreed with and did it with objective language. Not a single emotionally charged word that could intelligently misconstrued as anything other as such. When I did point out what wildly misfired in your suggestions, I included why and/or what was woefully cliche and wildly astray from the original, and in every comparative way, was more detailed and specific, if merely in amount of more specific words used. Only a contrarian would deny or disagree.

In closing, If for ego's sake you can't take feedback supported by concise reasoning that you simply can't concede and believe your suggestions were inarguably "tropey" as you deemed in your reductive oversimplification as "company party" - and do take note how you called it "tropey" but didn't offer a single word to support it, which of course is easy to label things negatively when you don't follow up.

Oh,i

Counter point - as this is an open forum, I get to write whatever I want, regardless of whether you find it useful.
I participate on this forum a lot. And I do it because I find it fun and entertaining. If anyone finds my suggestions useful, hey that's great. Win-win. If you don't, and for some reason, are triggered enough to dissect everything I wrote and criticize it ... that's pretty entertaining too. Have a good one.

 

[MsYesMaybe]

Oh my. Aren't you a ray of sunshine.

Yes I know. And you've shown in so few words you mistake snark for wit.
I do so love your type. I cannot wait for what borrowed chestnut you'll just have to reply with.

In breathless anticipation,
- K

 

[dirk2024]

You continue to entertain. At least your consistent. And wit? You give yourself too much credit. Overly verbose responses don't equal winning arguments.

Rob made an offhand (and accurate) overservation about just one of the tropes you listed in your original post.

1. Wife turns on collegues at company party
2. Becomes easily tipsy after only two champagnes
3. Loses her recognition of what's happening to her and why
4. Husband goes from angry to turned on
5. Royce (tell me, in your mind is he BBC?)
6. Him doing something so inappropriate at the company party that he could get arrested for assault

Rob has earned his place here through not only his stories, but from his forum post interactions. He's genuinely helpful and interactive.

You, on the other hand, have earned nothing.

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Robbie and Dirk and me didn't load our posts with cloaked links.

 

[Andreas_Kreuz]

I am always surprised by people who don't write, knowing how not to write.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

 

[MsYesMaybe]

You continue to entertain. At least your consistent. And wit? You give yourself too much credit. Overly verbose responses don't equal winning arguments.

Rob made an offhand (and accurate) overservation about just one of the tropes you listed in your original post.

1. Wife turns on collegues at company party
2. Becomes easily tipsy after only two champagnes
3. Loses her recognition of what's happening to her and why
4. Husband goes from angry to turned on
5. Royce (tell me, in your mind is he BBC?)
6. Him doing something so inappropriate at the company party that he could get arrested for assault

Rob has earned his place here through not only his stories, but from his forum post interactions. He's genuinely helpful and interactive.

You, on the other hand, have earned nothing.

You continue to entertain. At least your consistent. And wit? You give yourself too much credit. Overly verbose responses don't equal winning arguments.

Rob made an offhand (and accurate) overservation about just one of the tropes you listed in your original post.

1. Wife turns on collegues at company party
2. Becomes easily tipsy after only two champagnes
3. Loses her recognition of what's happening to her and why
4. Husband goes from angry to turned on
5. Royce (tell me, in your mind is he BBC?)
6. Him doing something so inappropriate at the company party that he could get arrested for assault

Rob has earned his place here through not only his stories, but from his forum post interactions. He's genuinely helpful and interactive.

You, on the other hand, have earned nothing.

LOL
It's so lovely how you're avoiding my accurate assessment of basically how every one of Rob's ideas/suggestions were the most cliche tropes of tropes. Or how none of them remotely had any practical connection or narrative thread. Like a dozen puzzle pieces, each from entirely unrelated puzzle. A kitchen sink cliche dump. A giant plot hole. No narrative thread.

How does the boss's wife "corral" Kelli?
Where is this venue with "a bedroom" to be corralled to?
Who are the generic "two studs"?
How does the boss's wife know them? How does she convince them to "ravage" Kelli?

How is the boss's wife going to be able to take any worthy photos? How will she not be seen?

And at the end, Kelli out of nowhere and after the boss's wife set Kelli up to be sexually assaulted by "two studs" which was photographed for no reason given....after this, Kelli has a "crush" on the woman responsible for this "revenge"?
LOL. List 5 ideas/suggestions Rob offered that was even remotely helpful, let alone "genuinely helpful." You'll give an excuse not to..because you can't. Did he "earn his place' giving out wildly unrelated ideas, suggesting "top ten" tropes and "first idea to mind" cliches to replace inarguably more specific and detailed ones?

Tell me, what the point of this below? Where in Rob's cavalcade of vague tropes and cartoonish cliches did Rob make these offhand (and accurate) observations. Copy and paste just 3 examples of Rob's words where he says any of this. You won't because you can't. Spare any petulant excuse why you can't do simple copy and paste where Rob address any of this. LOL


Rob made an offhand (and accurate) overservation about just one of the tropes you listed in your original post.

1. Wife turns on collegues at company party (Yes...and? What about it? What point does this make?)
2. Becomes easily tipsy after only two champagnes (Where does it say she had "only two champagnes? What point does this make?)
3. Loses her recognition of what's happening to her and why (Upon arriving she is clueless to the diaphanous effect to her gown. Of course she's unaware of it. What point does this make?)
4. Husband goes from angry to turned on (Yes. And the reasons/explanations/motives are given. He isn't simply nor singularly "angry" and then jumps to singularly "turned on." He feels and thinks in varying degrees. What point does this make?)
5. Royce (tell me, in your mind is he BBC?) (You've only wrote "Royce" and instead of including a thing about him...you ask something not at all relatable to or in the post, a detail that if were a factor about Royce, it would be mentioned. Why is only Royce's ethnicity a curiosity of BBC to you? Why not Kelli's? She's the "lead" character. And again, What point does this make?)
6. Him doing something so inappropriate at the company party that he could get arrested for assault (What is this vague "something"? When you say "so inappropriate" and "get arrested for" do you mean "something(s) like... premeditative "corralling a tipsy woman - who clearly isn't aware of how tipsy - to an unknown bedroom and hiring/asking "two studs" to "ravish" her without telling her it, thereby without her of clear mind consent and while she is being sexually assaulted (or is the vague "ravish" just a massage?) and lets not forget how criminally unlawful photographing someone being "ravished" without their consent or knowledge and intent for blackmail - after all what other actual sensical explanation/reason for this "photography" is there? Is all that aforementioned antics - which are all in Rob's "helpful" suggestions - the type of "something so inappropriate" it would without question result in "arrest for assault"? Is that the point intended?

LOL. HAHAHA LOL.

Just what has this unsolicited, misguided, pointless, cheerlead for Rob, blind refusal to acknowledge Rob's trope draped, kitchen sink cliche is genuinely helpful in anyway - considering his "suggestions" disregard every detailed element of a story with connective narrative thread? Has it gone as intended?

You avoided saying a single specific thing about Rob's nonsensical, disconnected, trope soaked cliche souffle. You clearly won't acknowledge it's an unfocused word salad. Even Rob can have a bad day. You could admit it that way. Refusing to admit it's woefully unfocused, unhelpful, unrelentingly vague...so much so it seems intentional. Honestly for Rob's sake, I hope so.

As for you...Cheerleader.

You earned less than nothing. There isn't a single rational reason for you to be here. This thread isn' t the Cheerlead For Rob And Not Even Consider How Accurate The Observations Made About His Almost Aggressively Unhelpful Suggestions.

Go make a Cheerleader Loves Rob Who Can Do No Wrong thread. You can go blow sunshine up his rear on your own thread. Your opinions mean nothing here and worth even less. And I will make it clear a second time:

This thread isn't for or about unnecessary unsolicited pointless shameless cheerleading for Rob. He and I already had this discussion and parted amicably. You've absolutely no reason or relevance here. Any further posts from here serve no purpose or positive intent. Demonstrate you're an intelligent adult, not a petulantly toxic child.

Go away.

And have a blessed day.

- K

 

[MsYesMaybe]

Robbie and Dirk and me didn't load our posts with cloaked links.

Neither did I.

I also don't post baseless lies in mine.

You've done so twice now. You're in the wrong thread.

Baseless Broken Records is down the hall. You've no positive purpose for posting here. Kindly go away.

 

[Andreas_Kreuz]

Let us calm down. The idea of this forum is to elicit other authors associations how to elaborate the original idea. They might come up with things you don't like.
If Rob's ideas don't appeal to you, just don't use them. Screaming at them is wasted oxygen.

And if you think your story outline is perfect as it is, then there is no benefit in posting it here. Just write it.

 

[Hmm72]

Sorry but what the fuck is going on here is there some back story here that can help others understand why there some sort of war between who can outwit the other with in written
English like they are dueling for some
Nobel Laureate in English

fck this is an erotic adult website stop trying to battle intellect

 

[Five_Inch_Heels]

Neither did I.

I also don't post baseless lies in mine.

You've done so twice now. You're in the wrong thread.

Yes, you did. Embedded image links because you know images are no longer permitted.

 

[Andreas_Kreuz]

now lets look at the quality of the story idea itself. I was lazy and asked gemini
Here is a concise breakdown of the logical and structural fallacies in the outline:
1. The Causality Gap
The story relies on coincidence rather than consequence.
* The Fallacy: Harold’s silence (lighting issue) and Royce’s sabotage (structural failure) are independent events. One does not lead to the other, making the plot feel like a series of "unlucky accidents" rather than a cohesive narrative.
2. The Redundancy Fallacy (The "Double Reveal")
* The Problem: You have two competing "reveals." If the dress is already transparent due to the lights, the "gown rip" loses its impact. If the dress falls off, the lighting was a pointless distraction. They cancel each other out emotionally.
3. The "Passive Trophy" Fallacy
* The Problem: A Trophy Wife is defined by social and aesthetic competence. * The Fallacy: Having her be "clueless," "tipsy," "ditzy," and "helpless" contradicts her archetype. A real Trophy Wife would be the first to notice a lighting flaw or a loose hem, as her social status depends entirely on her looking perfect.
4. The Antagonist Logic Fallacy
* The Problem: Royce’s "sneaky setup" lacks verisimilitude. * The Fallacy: It is physically improbable for a rival to secretly sabotage a designer gown on a live stage in front of an audience without being caught. Without a pre-existing "gun" (like a loose thread established earlier), his action feels like a Deus Ex Machina.
5. The "Show Stopper" Fallacy
* The Problem: A disaster is not a "Show Stopper."
* The Fallacy: In a corporate setting, a total wardrobe failure creates "second-hand embarrassment" and social retreat, not a "stoppage." Without a reason for the audience to remain fixated (rather than horrified), the scene collapses into awkwardness rather than erotic tension.

 

[Rob_Royale]

I am always surprised by people who don't write, knowing how not to write.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning–Kruger_effect

That was enlightening.

 

[MsYesMaybe]

now lets look at the quality of the story idea itself. I was lazy and asked gemini
Here is a concise breakdown of the logical and structural fallacies in the outline:
1. The Causality Gap...
The story relies on coincidence rather than consequence.

First, so what? Second, what's your point? Stories can rely on as many or as little circumstance its narrative needs. Third; Wrong. Absolutely. Undeniably. Unsurprisingly. WRONG. Your flippant absolutism is the cherry on top.

Your catastrophic inability to discern between coincidence and consequence tells me all I need to know and I know from at a glance at all that "Fallacy" flouting, you've strung out on Fallacy To Appeal To Authority, which renders your opinion worthless to me and I'll be skipping it

* The Fallacy: Harold’s silence (lighting issue) and Royce’s sabotage (structural failure) are independent events. One does not lead to the other, making the plot feel like a series of "unlucky accidents" rather than a cohesive narrative.
2. The Redundancy Fallacy (The "Double Reveal")
* The Problem: You have two competing "reveals." If the dress is already transparent due to the lights, the "gown rip" loses its impact. If the dress falls off, the lighting was a pointless distraction. They cancel each other out emotionally.
3. The "Passive Trophy" Fallacy
* The Problem: A Trophy Wife is defined by social and aesthetic competence. * The Fallacy: Having her be "clueless," "tipsy," "ditzy," and "helpless" contradicts her archetype. A real Trophy Wife would be the first to notice a lighting flaw or a loose hem, as her social status depends entirely on her looking perfect.
4. The Antagonist Logic Fallacy
* The Problem: Royce’s "sneaky setup" lacks verisimilitude. * The Fallacy: It is physically improbable for a rival to secretly sabotage a designer gown on a live stage in front of an audience without being caught. Without a pre-existing "gun" (like a loose thread established earlier), his action feels like a Deus Ex Machina.
5. The "Show Stopper" Fallacy
* The Problem: A disaster is not a "Show Stopper."
* The Fallacy: In a corporate setting, a total wardrobe failure creates "second-hand embarrassment" and social retreat, not a "stoppage." Without a reason for the audience to remain fixated (rather than horrified), the scene collapses into awkwardness rather than erotic tension.

 

[Andreas_Kreuz]

What the AI also mentioned: Trophy wife, which how MsYesMaybe characterizes herself in her profile, is frequently related to narcissism. And Narcissism is frequently related to the inability to handle criticism and the inability to recognize when you are being mocked.

In the olden times, we called it Trolling.

 

[MsYesMaybe]

What the AI also mentioned: Trophy wife, which how MsYesMaybe characterizes herself in her profile, is frequently related to narcissism. And Narcissism is frequently related to the inability to handle criticism and the inability to recognize when you are being mocked.

In the olden times, we called it Trolling.

What the AI also mentioned: Trophy wife, which how MsYesMaybe characterizes herself in her profile, is frequently related to narcissism. And Narcissism is frequently related to the inability to handle criticism and the inability to recognize when you are being mocked.

In the olden times, we called it Trolling.

This is my thread.
You're the Troll here.
Your posts are what we still call today "Trolling."


In your next post,
when youl deny it
be sure to include the word(s) you'd use to define it.

You won't, of course.
Trolls like you never do. Always with the same Troll excuse .


Your unsolicited opinions have no weight nor worth here.
And just like them
You are not needed nor wanted here.

Stop posting your Troll slop in this thread.

Now.
Go away.

After being told these things,
Only a Troll
stays where they're unwanted.
Only a Troll
needs to get their Last Word blathered in.

To a Troll with nothing and no worth - in their delusional mind - it's a win.

So, little Troll
I would love nothing more for you to prove me wrong by not wasting your time needing to get your last word in.
Any further word from you posted here will serve as the official Coming-Out-Trollt announcement.

Have a blessed day

 

[PennyThompson]

MsYes, I hope that you will write the erotica story that you want to see in the world!

You clearly have an extremely specific vision, and nobody but you will be able to write it.

Story Ideas is meant to be a forum for sharing, developing, critiquing, and workshopping plots and story elements, but it seems like your ideas are fully crystalized as is, and you aren't looking for suggestions or input.

You may have misunderstood the purpose of this forum, and gotten overly defensive when people critiqued some elements of your plot. And once that happens, well... There's blood in the water and forums can turn into piranha pile-ons

So go! Go and be free! Write about CLUELESS KELLI and her DIAPHANOUS CAVALLI! Write it exactly as you imagine it!

I do recommend not using capslock when writing your story though, it could get auto-rejected for formatting

 

[MsYesMaybe]

Sorry but what the fuck is going on here is there some back story here that can help others understand why there some sort of war between who can outwit the other with in written
English like they are dueling for some
Nobel Laureate in English

fck this is an erotic adult website stop trying to battle intellect

The clear and simple of what's going on in my thread is this;


Andreas_Kreuz - despite his own definition of the Story Idea Forum's sole use - is on a disruptive unsolicited unhinged tirade criticizing me for making inarguably valid criticism - supported by factual examples and reasoning - of someone’s suggestions which wildly went increasingly further from any of the many detailed and layered specifics of the original idea.

I expressed my disappointment in the person dismissed my premise as “tropey” - offered no helpful explanation or reasons why - and then followed up with a series of alleged ideas so cartoonishly trope and cliche, so non sensical and impossible, I was left wondering the intention. No one could possibly paint it any shade of “helpful.’


This brief exchange between the person and I ended amicably with each of us acknowledging the other’s right to constructively critique whatever we disagree with.

That’s when Andreas_Kreuz seemed to deem authority over my right to criticize by criticizing me over it. Trolling me to deem the exchange - he has absolutely nothing to do with - as trolling.


He then went on to troll my story idea thread by posting an authoritarian tirade criticizing people who exercise their right to express disagreement, which Kreuz tries to taint by painting it negatively as “criticizing.”

The level of such unchecked aggressively self-unaware narcissistic hypocrisy is astonishing.

Honestly, someone in charge really should have a talk with him.

 

[Husky_Embrace]

As a philosophical question:

Who's the bigger fool. The one that starts a discussion that only serves to antagonise, or the one that continues it?