Alabama indites Rethuglicans, Whut?

[Dumpington]

RubenR writes: "That person just tells you the truth; nothing's wrong with that."

I have no problems with the truth, Ruben. That's NOT what's at issue here.

But yes, it's INCREDIBLY CHILDISH to call somebody a racist just because they don't share your political beliefs! You're cheapening the allegation of racism when you do that! Too many people on the politically-progressive left throw out childish insults when they can no longer offer a serious argument!

phrodeau writes: "You said it was stolen money. Large cash transactions get reported. Where’s the example I asked you for?"

Drug dealers make their money illegally, phrodeau, in much the same way that bank robbers & swindlers do. And, just like bank robbers & swindlers, they then use some of that money to make valid purchases that involve paying sales tax!

My point is that just because those people who violate the law entering our nation may also pay taxes doesn't mean that we should be ignoring the fact that they're violating our laws, even if certain elements of the modern Democratic Party don't ever want them prosecuted or held accountable.

 

[icanhelp1]

Indeed. The thing is, he's probably heard it explained a dozen times or more on Fox News how Thurmond was actually protesting the Democrats' racism when he switched parties. No joke, they've been known to claim that!





I'm pretty sure it wasn't Al Gore Sr who said - in 2003, nearly 40 years after the Civil Rights Acts - that he was proud his state had supported Thurmond in 1948. Or who was one of only five senators to vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1991 (Helms was another). Or who openly admitted in his autobiography that he had opposed integration at Ole Miss while he was a student there in the early '60s (he claimed that his only objection was to the federal government taking charge of matters that were none of their business - as if we wouldn't STILL be waiting for Ole Miss to integrate if we'd left it up to the states). Or who had a solid 30+ year career of racist votes, comments and affiliations including the Council of Conservative Citizens (which is essentially the Klan without the white sheets).

Gore Sr, like everyone who voted against the civil rights acts, deserves the ugly mark on his record for doing so. But he left office in 1971, and certainly can't be held accountable in any way for the fact that over two decades later, the Republicans elected a Senate leader whose record on civil rights was at least as bad as his.




First of all, both those statistics are in dispute at best. Secondly, putting people on food stamps isn't necessarily a bad thing: when Obama took office, a LOT of people were out of work thanks to eight years of selfish Republican economic policy and the resulting financial disaster. Would you rather they starved to death before they could find a new job? And the increase applied to white people too. Secondly, the unemployment rate applies only to people who are looking for work. if you lose your job and spend four or five years looking for a new one with no success and finally give up, technically you no longer count as "unemployed". Besides, the black unemployment rate had already been falling since 2011, so it's just a continuation of a trend that has nothing to do with Trump.



One dumb comment doesn't make her anti-Semitic. Criticizing Israeli policy doesn't make her anti-Semitic. Saying the only people she trusts with her money are "the short guys who wear yarmulkes," now, THAT would make her anti-Semitic. But she didn't say that. Trump did.


Bush and Carter most likely still would have lost in a two way race. But that's beside the point. And you make "only three" sound like a pretty big deal, but there have only been seven in all in that time. And in no way does that say anything about Trump's chances next time around. Of course, since he lost the popular vote last time, he could very well win more votes this time around and still lose.


He had a sluggish economy to answer for, and he'd wasted a lot of his first two years trying to achieve bipartisan consensus with people like you, which was a genuinely stupid mistake. But he still won.

YB; I think you laying the blame for the financial crisis strictly on the republicans is not accurate. I think you suffer from selective memory loss or revisionist history.

 

[Dumpington]

RubenR writes: "So, we agree with that. You ARE a racist, and, as you say, that's not at issue here. And it's not wrong to point that out."

That's exceedingly childish of you to label somebody as a racist simply for not sharing your political beliefs, Ruben. But I understand that you're only doing so to defend your own beliefs without actually coming up with serious arguments to support them.

There really ARE racists in America (and throughout the rest of the world) who commit actual acts of racism, so for you to simply shout "racist" at non-racist behavior seriously cheapens the use of that word. What happens when somebody REALLY says something offensive and you're repeating your same stale insults?

"And that's not what happens here, so stop whining."

You accuse me of "whining" for trying to make you understand that racism is serious. You may have thought that Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I have a Dream" speech was nothing more than whining, but that was hardly the case!

icanhelp1 writes (to YDB95): "I think you suffer from selective memory loss or revisionist history."

I'm guessing it's a little of both. Liberals have often grown up believing that the Republican Party was the party of slaveholders, and that our first Republican president (Abraham Lincoln) opposed freeing the slaves. I blame our public school system and its biased big-union teachers.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

What? Yet another Republican caught in election tampering? What a surprise.

I know that's normally a Democrat thing. If you had principals you might care that both sides are capable of breaking the law.

 

[phrodeau]

I know that's normally a Democrat thing. If you had principals you might care that both sides are capable of breaking the law.

Election tampering is not normal, period.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Election tampering is not normal, period.

Especially when your candidate doesn't win.

 

[phrodeau]

Especially when your candidate doesn't win.

You just posted that it’s normally a Democrat thing. Make up your mind.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

You just posted that it’s normally a Democrat thing. Make up your mind.

I know what I'm talking about thanks. So you're comfortable with Trump as the legitimate president.

 

[KeithD]

I know that's normally a Democrat thing. If you had principals you might care that both sides are capable of breaking the law.

My post didn't deny the Democrats were capable of breaking the law--and in a recent exchange with Box, I said that Craig being a Democrat was no reason not to charge him with doing the same thing Manafort was doing (just that it wasn't an Obama thing--he didn't do it for years after he no longer was in the Obama administration. That doesn't mean he wasn't a Democrat when he did it).

You're just seeing what you are predisposed to see and are going after something not posted. I'm not a bit surprised.

 

[phrodeau]

I know what I'm talking about thanks. So you're comfortable with Trump as the legitimate president.

Comfortable as Trump himself, which is very little.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

My post didn't deny the Democrats were capable of breaking the law--and in a recent exchange with Box, I said that Craig being a Democrat was no reason not to charge him with doing the same thing Manafort was doing (just that it wasn't an Obama thing--he didn't do it for years after he no longer was in the Obama administration. That doesn't mean he wasn't a Democrat when he did it).

You're just seeing what you are predisposed to see and are going after something not posted. I'm not a bit surprised.

Sir I would never think of you as sane or objective. A liar, a bad writer, a fool but not open minded.

 

[KeithD]

Sir I would never think of you as sane or objective. A liar, a bad writer, a fool but not open minded.

You're just full of crap, as usual.

 

[JawnKarTurr]

You're just full of crap, as usual.

So why does it bother you so much? You're an object of humor for me. Your behavior will only drive more support to the President.

 

[YDB95]

YDB95 writes: "Nope. I never said everyone who opposed Obama was a racist. (I did say YOU were a racist, but that's quite different.)"

THERE, you've just done it again! Anybody who disgrees with your political beliefs is a RACIST!

So you think I'm calling you a racist just because you disagree with me? No, that's not it at all. You have argued repeatedly that African Americans vote Democratic only because they want food stamps, and that the Dems are bribing illegal immigrants with the same. If that's not racist, I can't imagine what is. But in no way does it follow that I think everyone who disagrees with me is a racist.

Yeah, and Robert Byrd invited a young Barack Obama to a few of his Klan meetings.

Cite, please, and make it a good one. Byrd quit the Klan before Obama was even born.

"California's economy is in much better shape than Texas', and has been for quite sometime."

What a load of crap! Next you'll be telling me that Detroit is in much better shape than Dallas or Houston! When your city if forced to hire people to remove human excrement from the city sidewalks (see: San Francisco), you've got some SERIOUS problems!

Well, yes, San Francisco does have serious problems: gentrification, and decades of cutting social services to the bone (a trend that started in California when Saint Ronnie was governor). But don't expect me to believe you support any policy that would alleviate either of those problems. And that has nothing to do with which state has a stronger economy.

"Not true - and if it WERE true, wouldn't that mean your beloved Voter ID law wouldn't work anyway?"

The modern Democratic Party opposes voter-photo-ID laws because they fear that they WILL WORK - and if that happens, Democrat candidates LOSE elections!

Again, even if that were true - and it isn't - the point is you have argued that now that illegal immigrants can get driver's licenses in California, that also means they can vote there (which is wrong, but that's beside the point here). Doesn't it follow from there that Voter ID laws wouldn't work?

"That's not what sanctuary city laws are about at all."

Sanctuary City laws are a way for the modern Democratic Party to harvest votes by ignoring our nation's immigration laws, pure & simple!

Again, THIS is why I'm calling you a racist, not just because you disagree with me.

"Aren't the Democrats in bed with the Klan?"

All signs point to "YES" - although the modern KKK prefers going by the name of "Antifa!"

Antifa is an anti-racist organization. I don't support them because they - or some of them at least - condone violent action, but to compare them to the Klan is just absurd.

"You are aware that illegal immigrants pay taxes too, aren't you?"

Who cares?

It would appear big business probably does, since they hire an awful lot of illegals to do jobs no American is willing to do at the wages they pay - which are taxed, as is everything they buy unless they live in states with no sales tax.

"You really just can't stand the fact that our country is becoming more diverse and more tolerant, can you? Wow. "

And YOU don't understand the difference between the words "LEGAL" and "ILLEGAL!" - Wow!

I understand them just fine. You're the one muddying those waters with your nonsense about widespread illegal voting, because you just can't stand the fact - the FACT - that your hero lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton.

"I don't see how any self-respecting American would NOT want to abolish an organization with so many abuses to its name. Yes, we do need to regulate immigration, but we also have to respect the dignity of all human beings, and ICE has proven it can't do both."

TRANSLATION: As long as illegals can be bribed with taxpayer-funded freebies to support Democrat candidates at election time, they should be allowed to freely enter this country and vote in our elections (and NOT just in California, either!)

There you go again...

And if we DON'T like our nation's immigration laws, we should be allowed to openly IGNORE them!

Nope. I said all immigrants should be treated with the dignity due all human beings. If you think that amounts to ignoring immigration laws...well, I've already explained, that's why I consider you a racist.

Articulate and Analytical writes: "Lying seems to be the #1 tool in the Republican toolbox."

Yeah, and who was that Republican president impeached for lying-under-oath while being investigated for sexual harrassment? Wasn't that BILL CLINTON?

That's "Bill Clinton who was cleared of all charges by a Republican Senate" to you, Dump.

And which Republican president repeated those enormous lies over & over... "If you like your doctor, you can KEEP him - period... and if you like your current health care plan, you can KEEP it - period!" Oh yeah, I remember now - that was BARACK OBAMA!

You forgot the "provided it meets the standards set by the ACA". So the only people who lost their health care plans were the ones with plans that were either overpriced or didn't provide adequate coverage, or both. If those plans had been allowed to remain in effect, what would happen when the people who had them couldn't afford their medical bills? Ultimately it would have been the taxpayers - you and I - who would have had to pay them.

YB; I think you laying the blame for the financial crisis strictly on the republicans is not accurate. I think you suffer from selective memory loss or revisionist history.

Feel free to demonstrate where I'm wrong. You haven't done that at all here.

I'm guessing it's a little of both. Liberals have often grown up believing that the Republican Party was the party of slaveholders, and that our first Republican president (Abraham Lincoln) opposed freeing the slaves. I blame our public school system and its biased big-union teachers.

I don't suppose you know of a single example of any teacher saying anything remotely like this to hir students? I certainly don't. My own experience (growing up in a VERY red state) was that in elementary school we learned Lincoln freed the slaves, and then in high school we learned that it was far less simple than that - but we certainly did learn that the Republican party was founded on an antislavery platform. (While Lincoln ran on such a platform, he was not himself an abolitionist - his wife was, but he wasn't - and he didn't free the slaves until he thought it was politically advantageous to do so, and even then he did so only in the seceded states where he had no power to enforce his proclamation.)

But we've all seen what you think of historical nuance, Dumpington. You don't think it exists.

 

[Dumpington]

phrodeau writes: "Election tampering is not normal, period."

Voter photo-ID laws would be a great way to combat that, phrodeau.

YDB95 writes: "So you think I'm calling you a racist just because you disagree with me? No, that's not it at all."

Look, we all know that the Democratic Party has a long history of bribing people to vote for Dem candidates by offering poor & minority voters taxpayer-funded hand-outs to make them more dependent on federal government largess. Pointing that out is NOT racist!

"But don't expect me to believe you support any policy that would alleviate either of those problems."

The Democratic Party views it as an accomplishment when they get MORE people receiving food stamps! Ronald Reagan said that a successful government should be measured by how many FEWER people require government assistance! But that's the exact OPPOSITE of what Democrats want!

"Again, THIS is why I'm calling you a racist, not just because you disagree with me."

This again?

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newsc...abbf6b9cd94249a410f990.today-inline-large.jpg - (Bill & Hillary Clinton at Trump's 2005 wedding to Melania)

Was it racist for Bill & Hillary Clinton to be the guests of honor when Donald Trump married Melania? No, because NOBODY was saying (or even hinting) that Trump was a racist until he defeated Hillary in 2016.

Was it racist when then-President Obama delivered the eulogy at the 2010 funeral of former KKK "Exalted Cyclops" Robert Byrd? No, because only a year earlier Senator Byrd had cast the deciding vote to pass ObamaCare, which was that president's signature legislative achievement!

Was it racist when then-U.S. Senator Joe Biden delivered the eulogy at the 2003 funeral of former segregationist U.S. Senator Strom Thurmond? No, because Joe & Strom had served together in the senate for thiry-years, and Strom wasn't like that anymore.

http://www.cristyli.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Hillary-Clinton-Campaign-Button.jpg - (Hillary '16 campaign pin using Confederate flag logo)

https://stream.org/wp-content/uploads/Hillary_Clinton_confederate_flag_button.jpg - (Hillary '08 campaign pin using Confederate flag logo)

http://americanlookout.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Clinton-Gore-Confederate-Flag.jpg - (Clinton-Gore 1992 campaign banner using Confederate flag)

Were Clinton-supporters racists who supported their candidate's presidential campaigns in 2016, 2008, and in 1992 using Confederate flag symbolism?

"Antifa is an anti-racist organization."

Antifa uses the very same fascist political tactics first pioneered by Benito Mussolini in Italy in the 1920's. If a conservative woman, black, or gay speaker shows up at a campus where Antifa has any power whatsoever, they will block that person from speaking and rough-up his-or-her supporters exactly like Mussolini's Italian Blackshirts, or Hitler's German brownshirts used to regularly do.

Just last Monday, black female activist Candace Owens was invited to speak at the University of Pennsylvania. In the days leading up to the event, Antifa members threatened to harass Owens and throw things at her. Owens arrival at the university was then greeted by far-left protesters aggressively shouting her down.

White racists screaming abuse at a young black woman? And you claim that Antifa is NOT a racist organization? I beg to differ.

"... your hero lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton. "

And yet it was YOUR hero conceding to Donald Trump on election night - am I right?

 

[YDB95]

YDB95 writes: "So you think I'm calling you a racist just because you disagree with me? No, that's not it at all."

Look, we all know that the Democratic Party has a long history of bribing people to vote for Dem candidates by offering poor & minority voters taxpayer-funded hand-outs to make them more dependent on federal government largess. Pointing that out is NOT racist!

Sorry, but that's exactly what making such a claim is. If you believe that, you must think African Americans (or at least the 90% who vote Democratic) have been content to collect public assistance for the past two generations and make no effort to become self sufficient whatsoever. That goes directly to the racist stereotype of African Americans as lazy and entitled. So yes, the argument you're making here most certainly is racist.

"But don't expect me to believe you support any policy that would alleviate either of those problems."

The Democratic Party views it as an accomplishment when they get MORE people receiving food stamps!

No. The Democratic Party views it as an accomplishment when the safety net works the way it's supposed to, providing people with a helping hand until they can get back on their feet. Which is how it works in every industrialized democracy on earth.

Ronald Reagan said that a successful government should be measured by how many FEWER people require government assistance!

Yes, and the way to do that is to provide the tools people need to get back to work and off government assistance. Of course, Reagan - who was also quite a racist in his own right - did everything he could to destroy the safety net and to thwart any sort of progress in living wages for the working- and middle classes. And for good measure, he got his base thinking that was a good thing because at least they were better than the nig...oops, I mean welfare mothers.

Or to put it in terms you will understand, Dumpington, There is a BIG difference between reducing the need for government assistance, and just kicking people off government assistance.

"Again, THIS is why I'm calling you a racist, not just because you disagree with me."

This again?

http://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newsc...abbf6b9cd94249a410f990.today-inline-large.jpg - (Bill & Hillary Clinton at Trump's 2005 wedding to Melania)

Was it racist for Bill & Hillary Clinton to be the guests of honor when Donald Trump married Melania? No, because NOBODY was saying (or even hinting) that Trump was a racist until he defeated Hillary in 2016.

Not true. Plenty of us were saying it for a year and a half before that - from the moment he gave his kickoff speech in which he called Mexicans "rapists and drug dealers". I suppose you've got some alternative definition by which that's not racist either, though.

Was it racist when then-President Obama delivered the eulogy at the 2010 funeral of former KKK "Exalted Cyclops" Robert Byrd?

It was a powerful example of how people can change for the better, that a former Klan member became a strong supporter of our first black president. Of course, I wouldn't have blamed Obama if he couldn't have forgiven Byrd for his past - but evidently he did .

Was it racist when then-U.S. Senator Joe Biden delivered the eulogy at the 2003 funeral of former segregationist U.S. Senator Strom Thurmond? No, because Joe & Strom had served together in the senate for thiry-years, and Strom wasn't like that anymore.

Perhaps. I'm on the fence about that.

Were Clinton-supporters racists who supported their candidate's presidential campaigns in 2016, 2008, and in 1992 using Confederate flag symbolism?

At the very least, they were tone-deaf about racism, and at worst, yes, they were racist. But those weren't authorized by either of the Clintons or their campaigns in any way.

"Antifa is an anti-racist organization."

Antifa uses the very same fascist political tactics first pioneered by Benito Mussolini in Italy in the 1920's.

Oh, for the love of God, Dumpington, even you could do better than this. Antifa got its start as an anti-Moussolini movement!!

If a conservative woman, black, or gay speaker shows up at a campus where Antifa has any power whatsoever, they will block that person from speaking and rough-up his-or-her supporters exactly like Mussolini's Italian Blackshirts, or Hitler's German brownshirts used to regularly do.

Here, you're confusing "conservative" with "extreme right wing". They're two different things, or at least they used to be.

Just last Monday, black female activist Candace Owens was invited to speak at the University of Pennsylvania. In the days leading up to the event, Antifa members threatened to harass Owens and throw things at her. Owens arrival at the university was then greeted by far-left protesters aggressively shouting her down.

I'll let Candace Owens speak for herself:

I actually don't have any problems at all with the word "nationalism". I think that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I don't want. ... Whenever we say "nationalism", the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine. The problem is that he wanted—he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German. Everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism.

White racists screaming abuse at a young black woman? And you claim that Antifa is NOT a racist organization? I beg to differ.

They'd only be racist if they were attacking her because she was black. And they weren't; they were attacking her because she's a right wing extremist with indefensible views.

"... your hero lost the popular vote to Hillary Clinton. "

And yet it was YOUR hero conceding to Donald Trump on election night - am I right?

Nope. Not even close. I voted for Sanders in the primary and I'd have preferred Elizabeth Warren over either of them.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "If you believe that, you must think African Americans (or at least the 90% who vote Democratic) have been content to collect public assistance for the past two generations"

When LBJ passed his "Great Society" legislation in the mid-1960's, he infamously said that "I'll have those n*ggers voting Democrat for the next two-hundred years!" The problem is, MODERN black youth are no longer interested in living off of federal government hand-outs - they now want JOBS instead, and that's exactly what President Trump is giving them! LBJ should have shortened his prediction to "fifty-years" instead!

Both white blue-collar and younger BLACK voters are beginning to abandon the Democratic Party in ever-increasing numbers, which ALSO explains why that party is desperately turning to illegals to make up for those losses in their voting base! For two consecutive presidential elections, the Democrat vote has DECREASED!

"The Democratic Party views it as an accomplishment when the safety net works the way it's supposed to..."

The Democratic Party PREFERS it when people remain indefintely on government assistance - when they DEPEND upon it - as that's how you create a permanent Democrat base! As Ronald Reagan once said: "if you make the safety net too comfortable, it becomes a HAMMOCK instead!"

"There is a BIG difference between reducing the need for government assistance, and just kicking people off government assistance."

Yes - and I repeat: the Democratic Party would prefer people remain on government assistance PERMANENTLY!

"Plenty of us were saying it for a year and a half before that - from the moment he gave his kickoff speech in which he called Mexicans 'rapists and drug dealers'."

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f-blENmALFE/hqdefault.jpg - (photo of Kate Steinle)

Have you ever heard of KATE STEINLE, YDB95? She's the 32-year old young woman who was murdered by an illegal named García Zárate on July 1, 2015. Some illegals entering our nation REALLY ARE rapists, murderers, & drug dealers, and they are protected in American sanctuary cities! HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLE DEFEND THAT?

"Antifa got its start as an anti-Moussolini movement!!"

They are an anti-Mussolini movement that copies the fascist political tactics pioneered by Benito Mussolini. They ALSO copy the hide-your-face tactics pioneered by the Ku Kux Klan.

"Here, you're confusing "conservative" with "extreme right wing". They're two different things, or at least they used to be."

TRANSLATION: if you label a conservative speaker like Candace Owens as "extreme right wing," you can then freely use racist and/or fascist tactics to block her from speaking!

"...they were attacking her because she's a right wing extremist with indefensible views."

And WHO is it who gets to determine/define what are "indefensible views?"

YOU? In other words, if Antifa determines that a Republican and/or a conservative speaker is saying something "indefensible," then they can then shout that person down with impunity! That's EXACTLY what Mussolini & Hitler both believed!

"I voted for Sanders in the primary and I'd have preferred Elizabeth Warren over either of them."

As long as Antifa approves of what Bernie and/or Liz Warren are saying, they won't disrupt their political rallies - because, as you know, Antifa is the respected guardian in our nation of what is and isn't "indefensible views," is that right? Speaking out against Israel is good, while saying something negative about Islam is "bad," correct? You just have to follow the rules as are clearly outlined in "Mein Kampf!"

 

[YDB95]

YDB95 writes: "If you believe that, you must think African Americans (or at least the 90% who vote Democratic) have been content to collect public assistance for the past two generations"

When LBJ passed his "Great Society" legislation in the mid-1960's, he infamously said that "I'll have those n*ggers voting Democrat for the next two-hundred years!" The problem is, MODERN black youth are no longer interested in living off of federal government hand-outs - they now want JOBS instead, and that's exactly what President Trump is giving them! LBJ should have shortened his prediction to "fifty-years" instead!

That quote - like most of the quotes you've cited, from people you love and hate alike - is probably apocryphal. Which is not to say LBJ never said anything racist, but he didn't make that particular comment, and there's no evidence that he believed the substance of it either.

Both white blue-collar and younger BLACK voters are beginning to abandon the Democratic Party in ever-increasing numbers, which ALSO explains why that party is desperately turning to illegals to make up for those losses in their voting base!

Where is your evidence that blacks are abandoning the Democrats? Is that somehow reflected in voting trends in California only too?

"The Democratic Party views it as an accomplishment when the safety net works the way it's supposed to..."

The Democratic Party PREFERS it when people remain indefintely on government assistance - when they DEPEND upon it - as that's how you create a permanent Democrat base!

Once again, this is why some of us consider you a racist. Live with it.

As Ronald Reagan once said: "if you make the safety net too comfortable, it becomes a HAMMOCK instead!"

Reagan also built a political career out of stirring up white resentment of any safety-net provisions whatsoever because they might help black people. This is only another example of that - assuming he even really said that, and again, you've got a miserable record when it comes to factual accuracy on quotes, including Reagan quotes.

"There is a BIG difference between reducing the need for government assistance, and just kicking people off government assistance."

Yes - and I repeat: the Democratic Party would prefer people remain on government assistance PERMANENTLY!

And once again you make this claim with no support whatsoever.

"Plenty of us were saying it for a year and a half before that - from the moment he gave his kickoff speech in which he called Mexicans 'rapists and drug dealers'."

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/f-blENmALFE/hqdefault.jpg - (photo of Kate Steinle)

Have you ever heard of KATE STEINLE, YDB95? She's the 32-year old young woman who was murdered by an illegal named García Zárate on July 1, 2015. Some illegals entering our nation REALLY ARE rapists, murderers, & drug dealers, and they are protected in American sanctuary cities! HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLE DEFEND THAT?

No one can. But that's not the point. Trump wasn't talking about one person, he was saying most Latinx immigrants are violent criminals. Which again, is pretty damn racist.

"Here, you're confusing "conservative" with "extreme right wing". They're two different things, or at least they used to be."

TRANSLATION: if you label a conservative speaker like Candace Owens as "extreme right wing," you can then freely use racist and/or fascist tactics to block her from speaking!

There's nothing racist about what happened to Candace Owens. She'd have been treated the same way if she were white.

"...they were attacking her because she's a right wing extremist with indefensible views."

And WHO is it who gets to determine/define what are "indefensible views?"

YOU?

Not necessarily. But I'd trust the word of just about anyone before I'd listen to someone who believes it's not racist to say blacks vote Democratic because they want handouts.

"I voted for Sanders in the primary and I'd have preferred Elizabeth Warren over either of them."

As long as Antifa approves of what Bernie and/or Liz Warren are saying, they won't disrupt their political rallies - because, as you know, Antifa is the respected guardian in our nation of what is and isn't "indefensible views," is that right? Speaking out against Israel is good, while saying something negative about Islam is "bad," correct? You just have to follow the rules as are clearly outlined in "Mein Kampf!"

You clearly know nothing about what happened in the 2016 primaries if you believe that.

 

[Dumpington]

YDB95 writes: "Which is not to say LBJ never said anything racist, but he didn't make that particular comment, and there's no evidence that he believed the substance of it either."

During his days as a young Democratic Party U.S. Senate majority/minority leader in the 1950's, LBJ spoke & voted just like the rest of the southern Democrats. By the time he became the vice president (under JFK), he was considerably LESS racist than before. That statement he made about his "Great Society" programs was MORE about strengthening his party's base with future black votes than anything intentionally racist. (But he STILL said it!)

"Where is your evidence that blacks are abandoning the Democrats? Is that somehow reflected in voting trends in California only too?"

Black & hispanic voters are entirely separate entities. Black voters do not follow the lead of Spanish-speaking voters and vice-versa. California's Hispanic voter-spike is primarily illegals flooding into that state and residing in sanctuary cities where the Democratic Party promises to take care of them, offering taxpayer-funded freebies. Many illegals APPRECIATE being able to openly flout U.S. immigration laws, and will vote for Democrat candidates to keep the goodies coming!

Black voters have a LONG HISTORY of supporting Democrats, dating back to the mid-1960's and LBJ's "Great Society" welfare state that gave them food stamps, housing, & affirmative action. But that was then & this is now. Modern black youth don't like the idea of the government taking care of them from cradle-to-grave - they want good jobs instead, and that's what President Trump is giving them. All of these Democratic presidential candidates discussing "reparations" is an act of desperation to keep black voters on the "Democratic Party plantation!" It won't work!

"Once again, this is why some of us consider you a racist. Live with it."

Oh, don't you worry about me - I've lived with childish name-calling since I was in the second-grade! I can handle it easily enough!

"Reagan also built a political career out of stirring up white resentment..."

The Democrats have NEVER had a president as popular as Ronald Reagan! He won the White House in 1980 with a staggering 489 electoral votes! And then, just four years later, he set a new all-time record with 525 electoral votes, winning 10,552,242 MORE popular votes than he'd won in 1980! Compare that with Barack Obama winning 3,580,921 FEWER popular votes when he ran for re-election in 2012!

"Trump wasn't talking about one person, he was saying most Latinx immigrants are violent criminals."

100% of the people entering our national illegally are breaking our laws! And yes, a LOT of them then commit violent crimes once in our nation! And the Democrats respond to this by setting up sanctuary cities to protect these killers from being deported! Kate Steinle's killer (José Inez García Zárate) was here illegally. On November 30, 2017, after five days of deliberations, a liberal California jury acquitted him of all murder and manslaughter charges, because the Democratic Party wants hispanics who violate our nation's immigration laws (e.g. shooting law-abiding Americans) to know that they will be cared for and protected by that party!

 

[phrodeau]

A lot of them commit violent crimes, but you can only provide one example, which you’ve previously posted? Surely there must be millions of examples, if it’s such a problem.

 

[Dumpington]

phrodeau writes: "A lot of them commit violent crimes, but you can only provide one example, which you’ve previously posted? Surely there must be millions of examples, if it’s such a problem."

There are HUNDREDS of examples, phrodeau - but the pro-illegal liberals & their media allies prefer to ignore the facts, because the reality of what's going on makes them look STUPID!

Michigan police arrested 23-year-old Aurelio Hernandez-Gomez, an illegal alien from Mexico, after finding him with a 13-year-old Florida girl who had last been seen two days before her ordeal. Cops acted on a tip that led them to a Hartford home where Hernandez-Gomez hid the girl while assaulting her.

Alabama police arrested Ramiro Ajualip, a 27-year-old who entered the country illegally, of raping a 10-year-old girl while he was living with the child’s family.

While taking refuge in the “sanctuary city” of Philadelphia, one illegal alien named Garcia decided that it would be a good idea to attack and rape a 26-year-old doctor as she walked home from work. Police said Garcia then stole the victim’s cellphone and rode away on his bicycle. In perhaps not the smartest of moves, Mr. Garcia kept the victim’s smartphone in his possession.

In Arizona, an illegal immigrant who had been deported six times was charged with a hit-and-run. It turns out that the vehicle that he hit contained a young mother and her two very young children.

In Porterville, California a drunk illegal immigrant (18-year old Adolf Balbuena) plowed through a fence and killed a 3-year-old girl that was standing in line for ice cream.

in Laredo, Texas - an illegal immigrant who had been deported four times confessed to murdering his wife with a hammer.

In DeLand, Florida - a 27-year-old Mexican here illegally named Juan Corona-Martinez was charged with raping a woman unable to hear or speak.

A 29-year-old illegal immigrant (Apolinar Altamirano) killed a convenience store clerk in Phoenix, Arizona (21 year old Grant Ronnebeck) over two packs of cigarettes.

Three MS-13 street-gang members from El Salvador forced a 16-year-old New York girl into the woods near a golf course, with two of them then raping her while the third kept watch. After President Trump called these guys "animals," Democrat Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi responded by saying: "Calling people animals is not a good thing." Pelosi is a dumbass.

Criminal and illegal aliens commit murder at much higher rates than all inhabitants of the U.S. – at least 3 to 10 times higher. They DON'T BELONG HERE!

 

[phrodeau]

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Criminal and illegal aliens commit murder at much higher rates than all inhabitants of the U.S. – at least 3 to 10 times higher.

That's a very interesting statistic, and I know you are always able to back up the statistics you cite. Where did you find that one?

 

[phrodeau]

Hmm... looks like you are in the minority.

https://www.cato.org/blog/illegal-immigrants-crime-assessing-evidence

A 2016 Pew poll found that only 27 percent of Americans thought that illegal immigrants were more likely to commit serious crimes than native-born Americans, while 67 percent said less likely. A Quinnipiac poll in 2018 revealed that only 17 percent of voters thought that illegal immigrants committed more crimes than native-born Americans and 72 percent of voters thought that illegal immigrants committed less crime.

 

[Dumpington]

phrodeau writes: "That's a very interesting statistic, and I know you are always able to back up the statistics you cite. Where did you find that one?"

You don't want to hear about illegals in our country killing American citizens, phrodeau, because the media doesn't want to report on it happening! Such reporting makes the Democratic Party look like simpletons.

Murders committed by foreigners on our soil are the most avoidable crimes. They are also the number one threat from which the federal government was created to protect us: external threats. Yet because illegal aliens are treated as a protected class, those murdered by them have no representation in the media, unlike the way every illegal alien death at the border is reported and blamed on the Border Patrol & ICE.

Every year, ICE apprehends illegals responsible for roughly 80,000 DUIs, 76,000 other traffic offenses, 76,000 drug offenses, and 50,000 assaults. Yet the majority of illegals live in sanctuary jurisdictions that won’t turn over those with such “low-level” charges.

Most Americans have no idea that more of their fellow citizens – men, women and children – have been murdered by illegal aliens than the combined death toll of U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan since those military campaigns began.

Meanwhile, Democratic Party House Speaker Nancy Pelosi reminds us that, despite some of the barbaric crimes being committed by these animals in our country illegally: "Calling people animals is not a good thing."

 

[phrodeau]

So it came from your ass. Got it.