antidepressants fail 50% of time

[NastasyA]

Its pretty easy to determine if you're high or low in GABA, serotonin, MAO, and dopamine just by asking a few questions...as long as you're truthful...you can figure out what type of medication you need without a blood test...

And who trusts? people to be truthful?

There are some (sad but true) who KNOW what answers are expected from them, and so work against the system to obtain the *results* they desire.

I like blood tests. . .
Even run double to check against errors, there is no arguement with blood.
no *subjective* quality to consider.

(now i understand... that such my opinion may be considered in a "more free" environment to be a charge against your "freedoms" - but. . . if your health care was the right of every citizen and guaranteed to you, by your birth, perhaps you would concede to me, such a point.)

 

[doll_parts85]

And who trusts? people to be truthful?

There are some (sad but true) who KNOW what answers are expected from them, and so work against the system to obtain the *results* they desire.

I like blood tests. . .
Even run double to check against errors, there is no arguement with blood.
no *subjective* quality to consider.

(now i understand... that such my opinion may be considered in a "more free" environment to be a charge against your "freedoms" - but. . . if your health care was the right of every citizen and guaranteed to you, by your birth, perhaps you would concede to me, such a point.)

*shrugs* Well, what I said is the thinking of most psychiatrists...

 

[Hester]

Its pretty easy to determine if you're high or low in GABA, serotonin, MAO, and dopamine just by asking a few questions...as long as you're truthful...you can figure out what type of medication you need without a blood test...

this is very interesting.

can you give us more details?

 

[doll_parts85]

this is very interesting.

can you give us more details?

Well, theres this test you can take...its really simple...you just rate these questions from 1-4 of how much it is like you...theres different sections, one for Gaba, serotonin, MAO, testosterone, norepinephrine and dopamine...its really simple and it determines if your high or low on the different chemicals...

 

[Hester]

Well, theres this test you can take...its really simple...you just rate these questions from 1-4 of how much it is like you...theres different sections, one for Gaba, serotonin, MAO, testosterone, norepinephrine and dopamine...its really simple and it determines if your high or low on the different chemicals...

do you have the questions and how to interpret them? is there a name for the test?

 

[doll_parts85]

do you have the questions and how to interpret them? is there a name for the test?

umm...I can find out next week...its in this book, one of the program managers at Day Treatment has it...I'll ask what its called.

 

[Adrenaline]

I'll tell you why it only works 50% of the time.. Because most of the time these people have a perfectly good reason to be upset. It's like nobody's aloud to be sad or angry anymore, even if they have a good reason. If a person has a perfectly good reason to be sad. Let them be sad and talk them through this difficult time. Don't drug their asses up.. I know that some people have imbalances in their brains that make them sad. Those people get upset and don't know why... There is a huge difference between having an imbalance in your brain, and being sad because someone you loved and were close to died. If the circumstances of a person's life suck and cause them to be unhappy, help that person out.. Trust me I am well experienced with having to take medication for that sort of thing.. Infact, I was on like 6 medications and only actually needed one.. So yeah.. That's why it doesn't always work..

Uhh what? It's the same brain in the same person regardless of whether the person knows why he's depressed (and ignores the possibility that the person's knowledge on the reasons for his depression could be incorrect). An argument can certainly be made that medical science doesn't possess enough knowledge about the illness--pretty much what NastasyA said--and so cannot effectively medicate it. But certainly you can't be implying that, as an example, I'm sad about a loved one's death, and this is "natural", and that's why it cannot be "cured" or modified through drugs.

 

[Hester]

umm...I can find out next week...its in this book, one of the program managers at Day Treatment has it...I'll ask what its called.

that would be great! i'm very curious about it.

 

[doll_parts85]

that would be great! i'm very curious about it.

Okays I'll PMing next Monday with the name.

 

[Hester]

Okays I'll PMing next Monday with the name.

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[captain snakebite]

One bad experience and one incompetent psychiatrist does not mean all antidepressants are bad.

Very true.

But one bad therapist, one psychiatrist who went above & beyond the call, nine bad experiences, three very bad experiences, and one fucking awful experience resulting in one irrevocably dead, very dear friend?

I'd say that's a pretty damned sound indication...