Application of sharia law by country"

[Aella_]

If you think this is me whining, your reading non-emoji skills need some work.

Btw, since some of the GB libs. keep bringing it up:
Honestly, I never gave "the muslim situation" much thought before joining Lit. It was the last thing on my mind.
But, along with Trump, it seems to cover almost half of the Lit. political posts (and so many of these posts sounded absolutely crazy!! libs. And conservatives included).
So I gradually started thinking about it.

So if you want to discuss anything, comment on why the GB political posters are so charged up and emotional over this issue. All these life and death fights and personal animosities over Politics !!
Much more interesting than trying to mock or make fun of me.

 

[oggbashan]

If you think this is me whining, your reading non-emoji skills need some work.

On this issue, Aella's reading skills need some improvement.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Because it isn't a marriage under UK law.

And it wasn't effective. You have to do it in public in front of an Imam.

Where's your Imam?

That's the point.

That's the very point.

They do not agree with the laws of man.

They follow the laws of the prophet, the faith, the culture.

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All else is the pretense of the minority. Notice, they only love the law and the culture, when they can benefit...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Btw, since some of the GB libs. keep bringing it up:
Honestly, I never gave "the muslim situation" much thought before joining Lit. It was the last thing on my mind.
But, along with Trump, it seems to cover almost half of the Lit. political posts (and so many of these posts sounded absolutely crazy!! libs. And conservatives included).
So I gradually started thinking about it.

So if you want to discuss anything, comment on why the GB political posters are so charged up and emotional over this issue. All these life and death fights and personal animosities over Politics !!
Much more interesting than trying to mock or make fun of me.

I'm not emotional.

I've studied some History and a LOT of economics.

All I try to do is comment on what is actually happening.

 

[Aella_]

I'm not emotional.

I've studied some History and a LOT of economics.

All I try to do is comment on what is actually happening.

Not you, and the libs. either.
Busybody and the three or so progressives aka "racists hunters". (we all know who).

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Not you, and the libs. either.
Busybody and the three or so progressives aka "racists hunters". (we all know who).

Their goal is to stifle discussion...

 

[oggbashan]

That's the point.

That's the very point.

They do not agree with the laws of man.

They follow the laws of the prophet, the faith, the culture.

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All else is the pretense of the minority. Notice, they only love the law and the culture, when they can benefit...

So do Jews, Roman Catholics, Quakers, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists for marriage. They follow their religious ceremonies for marriage. Why not?

Except for Church of England marriages in England, all those religious marriages have no status in English Law. Even C of E marriages have a separate part 'signing the register' which complies with the civil law requirement.

Why should Muslim marriages be any different? They aren't.

The traditional customs which surround marriage are often weird and odd for many cultures. Arranged marriages are not just a feature for some Muslims but for other cultures as well.

Asking her father's consent? When she is over the age of consent? Why? It's a custom. The Bride wearing white? Why? It's a custom. Tossing the bouquet? Wearing and removing a garter? Wearing a veil? The Bride's Father's speech? The Best Man's speech? The toast to the Bridesmaids?

I could go on and on.

What is different about SOME ethnic customs is that they are oppressive to women. That is against UK and European law and there are organisations working to change customs and educate people away from the traditional abuses. Those organisations have to tackle centuries of tradition but the traditions are not just Muslim.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I understand what you are saying; fully.

Of course it is against your law. But the West has abandoned more and custom.

Too illiterate. Too provincial. Too closed minded.

In the vacuum, Islam flourishes.

It provides that which has been rejected.

I wonder if the culture wars in Europe were over when you were born. Here, when I was born, Christianity predominated and defined the habits, prejudices, customs and mores of the nation; we had Blue laws, moral laws and expectations of what a good citizen was. When I was a child we pledged allegiance every morning, said the Lord's Prayer and sang America the Beautiful. It was what Americans did. It was not a conspiracy, it was simply Democracy at work.

But, of course, that chafed at the very heart of the deviant, the different, and especially the lesser intellectuals, so, they went to war on our culture. Were aspects of our culture somewhat exclusive? Yes. Were they evil, or pernicious? No. They were the glue that bound.

Now, that glue has been irrevocably dissolved. But people cannot, and will not, live in pure moral relativism, that goes against our very nature. Into this sense of missing a vital part of their lives, a new morality creeps in, is welcomed, cherished and fostered.

That which was defeated is now celebrated in new form. They get it. We do not.

 

[Sean]

Were aspects of our culture somewhat exclusive? Yes. Were they evil, or pernicious? No. They were the glue that bound.

Unless you were non-white. Or gay. Or a woman. "Somewhat exclusive". Jesus Christ, that's some major league revisionism right there.

 

[Ishmael]

Sharia law is administered and adjudicated by clerics. In a very real sense of the word it is nothing more than the Spanish Inquisition Muslim style.

Ishmael

 

[oggbashan]

Sharia law is administered and adjudicated by clerics. In a very real sense of the word it is nothing more than the Spanish Inquisition Muslim style.

Ishmael

Religious laws for all religions are administered by clerics.

England's King Henry II fought Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas A Becket over religious laws - and lost.

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Henry VIII took over all religious law, and the Church's money. Now the Church of England has lay people helping to decide what is their religious law.

 

[Ishmael]

Religious laws for all religions are administered by clerics.

England's King Henry II fought Archbishop of Canterbury Thomas A Becket over religious laws - and lost.

<---
Henry VIII took over all religious law, and the Church's money. Now the Church of England has lay people helping to decide what is their religious law.

Ole Henry just put the church under the thumb of the Monarchy. Which really isn't all that different from what was going on over on the continent, just writ much larger. The local Barons had their third son appointed to be the local Bishop. (What was the old rule? First son inherits, second son military, and the third to the church?)

A toxic mix of church and state to control the masses. Luther wrote his "95 Theses" and the rest became history.

And it is for that reason that our founders wrote into the Constitution the prohibition of the establishment of a state religion.

Ishmael

 

[Liar]

So if you want to discuss anything, comment on why the GB political posters are so charged up and emotional over this issue.

Because no other issue gets approached with so much pig headed ignorance, FUD and fallacies.

Except maybe alt crusading. But that's just retarded and not actually harmful.

 

[Emerson40]

Their goal is to stifle discussion...

Nonsense.

This thread, as most of Hashtag's threads, are to present his POV, with an invitation for you and and a couple others to chime in and offer high fives.

Anyone who challenges something said, offers a counterpoint, or asks that Hashy expand and elaborate - join in the discussion, are called 'progressive', their position or question ignored (see this thread for latest example). Hashtag posts like Busybody and replies like Schmoop103 to people he doesn't agree with in the discussion.

Just look at Ogg's and Des' posts above as a perfect example.

After months of this (and several as Hssh345), folks don't give a shit. Ol' Hashy is seen as another Busybody on the boards, only seeking more and constant attention, and treated as such.

 

[Aella_]

Because no other issue gets approached with so much pig headed ignorance, FUD and fallacies.

Except maybe alt crusading. But that's just retarded and not actually harmful.

Re the GB "biggots or racists hunters" (I'm not referring to the typical appropriate lib. poster, of course):

I wouldn't be so tongue-in cheek about them Liar, if I wouldn't have noticed some of their covert behaviors and double standards. Xenophobic, misogynistic or homophobic and so on attitudes.
I just can't stand those types of people.
At least our "racists" are honest about who they are or what they believe in.

 

[Bad_Doggie]

Firstly,
We're not as biased as you think we are. We're just chronically perplexed by some GB libs.' claim that misogyny does Not exist among some radical muslims. And by their tendency to take their whiteknighteing role to an extreme by trying to villify or "hunt" anyone who claims otherwise.

Who or where have” some GB libs.'” ever claimed any such thing?

Because you're all so fucking weird. So emotionally involved and starting to get cut-throat whenever someone dares to criticize some of Islam's approach to women. (parts of the religion and Not the people).

And it's only dudes who are doing it. Unless you're secretly yearning for the good old patriarchial society .
I'm done. This is going nowwhere.
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I dunno why you restrict your comments to “some of Islam's approach to women” when the approach of sections of it to things such as; homosexuality, other religions, Atheist, apostates and even variants of the same Islamic religion are no less abhorrent.

Although all of the Abrahamic religions in essence have the same m.o it’s fair to say that sections of Islamic variant are beyond doubt the most violent and most discriminatory.

That said, to point to the likes of the westboro Baptists and claim that represents the attitude of ALL of the Christian faiths is a stupid, ignorant argument and the kind yer goona get from AJ et al; good luck with that!

Woof!

 

[Aella_]

Who or where have” some GB libs.'” ever claimed any such thing?
!

I might have phrased it in a wrong way.
I was referring to a certain attitude that bewilders me:

Take me, for instance. I'm an immigrant, so I Did encounter a few (not many, thank God) bigotted (xenophobic) attitudes involving myself. So even if I might have been a bit bigotted in certain respects before (not in matters of race etc. - in other areas) - life taught me a hard lesson. So I'm Not a biggot.

Anyway, to come back to the topic:
Almost every f… g time that I tried to engage in a discussion about issues that I find interesting (people's mentalities and beliefs systems, and why they think the way in which they think - and since people here are preoccupied with politics, muslims or abortion and such: I talked about these-)
--- I got some GB white knight on my back, totally misinterpreting my comments and labelling me "a racist".
It's bloody ridiculous.

 

[Sean]

--- I got some GB white knight on my back, totally misinterpreting my comments and labelling me "a racist".
It's bloody ridiculous.

What do you think the phrase "White Knight" means?

 

[Aella_]

What do you think the phrase "White Knight" means?

Progressive or racist hunter, duuh…

 

[Sean]

Progressive or racist hunter, duuh…

That is not what it means. It isn't even close to what it means.

 

[Aella_]

That is not what it means. It isn't even close to what it means.

Don't care. I make up my own GB lingo and neologisms.
I mean, you guys use words such fucktard, fuckwitt and such all the time..

 

[Sean]

Don't care. I make up my own lingo and GB neologisms.

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[Aella_]

lol ....

 

[Liar]

Don't care. I make up my own GB lingo and neologisms.

That's fine, but how about making it out of things that don't already mean other things?

I mean, you guys use words such fucktard, fuckwitt and such all the time..

Yes, and when we use the word fuckwit, we mean fuckwit. It has an established meaning. It's even in the Oxford English dictionary.

 

[Sean]

That's fine, but how about making it out of things that don't already mean other things?

Yes, and when we use the word fuckwit, we mean fuckwit. It has an established meaning. It's even in the Oxford English dictionary.

From now on, I have decided that the word "doughnut" means 4" pipe wrench.