Application of sharia law by country"

[Aella_]

It da jewy (BB)an stinky (aella)show brah! Lol

You're such an idiot…
All this pre-pubescent talk about attention-seeking and so on...

You're not even able to understand why BB (who's facing the baffling phenomenon of GB anti-semitism coupled with their kumbaia attitude re Islam) and myself (immigrant to a Commonwealth country from S Eu) are so interested in this topic. Because these things hit close to home so are in a way personal.

You american GB libs. are far removed from these particular realities; how on Earth would You be able to relate? .

 

[smartjuanxxx]

Og, you have godly patience.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

its sorta sad to see a shitizen of Sweden to so love MUSLIMS

I CANT WAIT FOR SWEDEN TO BE DEVASTATED and all its CITIZENS SLAUGHTERED

 

[Aella_]

Og, you have godly patience.
And that's all I'm going to say about that.

Male alter-ego of Wings? Or Butters?

 

[smartjuanxxx]

Male alter-ego of Wings? Or Butters?

gender fluid

 

[oggbashan]

Og, you have godly patience.

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

I had 14 years of being the manager dealing with five trade unions and four branch committees for each of the five. After that, the GB seems almost sensible.

 

[Emerson40]

Sidetracking?

Who started another thread in the GB because you didn't like the answers you got on the Politics Board?

Go away and learn to think.

I don't think you needed any help from BB. You were doing very well on your own.

I'm off to deal with real life problems.

Phenomenal patience Ogg, and kudos to you for trying again, but the OP has no interest in picking up what you're laying down in front of him.

It is not about the issue. It never was. The issue was dealt with in the initial thread.

My good man, you have stated the glaringly obvious, and then posed a rhetorical question, both of which is lost on the poster you are replying to.

This thread was created to garner more attention and stir-up shit, and has no bearing on the very informative replies and logic you provided in the original thread. You're a good sport for playing along, for as long as you did.

 

[Smootg103]

You're such an idiot…
All this pre-pubescent talk about attention-seeking and so on...

You're not even able to understand why BB (who's facing the baffling phenomenon of GB anti-semitism coupled with their kumbaia attitude re Islam) and myself (immigrant to a Commonwealth country from S Eu) are so interested in this topic. Because these things hit close to home so are in a way personal.

You american GB libs. are far removed from these particular realities; how on Earth would You be able to relate? .

Nah brah, yous the idiot, dat why everyone say so. So is yo bff bb. You aksed a question, ogg answered and you still aks the same question an insult him. You a pathetic attenshun whorin paki brah.

 

[Liar]

Male alter-ego of Wings? Or Butters?

Who, me? Or him?

 

[Disgustipated]

Who, me? Or him?

.Yes.

 

[oggbashan]

.Yes.

Or perhaps not.

We should ask a Sharia Court or Judge Judy to decide whether it is relevant or not.

 

[Sean]

P.S. Sean, I've been trying to think of the right wing guy of old that used to post here and you've brought up time and time again how you wish he still posted. I can't think of his name right now for the life of me.

Gringao? I disagreed with that fucker on everything but we actually got on quite well.

 

[Sean]

2.AJ has good knowledge

Dishrag's whole act is just a comedy routine, isn't it? And we've been taking it seriously. lol@us.

 

[Comshaw]

I had 14 years of being the manager dealing with five trade unions and four branch committees for each of the five. After that, the GB seems almost sensible.

I was a shop steward for our union local for 12 years. You are correct: after dealing with management for that length of time over some of the stupidest shit (from both sides) the GB is tame. The union members thought the contact protected them for any infraction, even if they were guilty as sin. Management on the other hand assumed the contract only applied if it benefited their stated case and could be ignored if it didn't. As a shop steward I got crap from the members because everything didn't go their way and crap from management because I was the face of the union. Because the retribution couldn't be done outright it was always done in a back handed, hidden way. I took it as long as I could then stepped down. Even then I caught shit from the members for abandoning the job. Funny thing is none of them stepped up to take my place, brave souls that they were. If you love chaos, if you love confrontation, if you love getting your ass beat from both sides, that's the job for you. I am happily retired now and enjoy the hell out of it.

As far as my opinion of the OP and this discussion: He started out with a clear bias but tried to hide it under a facade of neutrality and reasonableness. He was looking for someone to agree with his bias when he posted this. When he couldn't find it on the PB, he put it here hoping one of the people who think like him would post an opinion. AJ was very willing to do just that.

There is Shara law here in the U.S. too. It's falls under contractual law. As long as all parties agree to it AND it doesn't conflict with or undermine the laws of the land it isn't any different then an employee abiding by a company's policies and procedures. If it does conflict with a law, then it needs to be addressed and corrected. Way to many see the application of a bastardized version that is used by ISIS and automatically assume that all versions are the same. My answer to that is: does the rules followed by the Westboro Baptist Church, The Branch Davidians or Jim Jones and his followers mean that all Christians follow the same rules? Or perhaps we can agree that those are/were christian based cults, much like ISIS is a Muslim based cult.

Most times I say little and just listen. My daddy told me that if you listen more then you talk, you'll learn a whole hell of a lot more then if your gums are flapping.

Back to my post against the wall.

'nuff said.

Comshaw

 

[anchoredinocean]

Gringao? I disagreed with that fucker on everything but we actually got on quite well.

Yep, that's who I was trying to think of.

 

[oggbashan]

Thank you for your post Comshaw.

Before I became the management person for the unions to bash I had been a Shop Steward - poacher turned gamekeeper. Often all the union representative wanted was management to say in public "No. We can't do that." just to get the awkward union members off the shop steward's back.

One real problem with Sharia in the UK is marriage law.

If you marry under Sharia marriage customs that marriage is not recognised in UK law. It has to be followed by a Register Office ceremony to make it a legal marriage in the UK. A Sharia marriage does not give any rights under UK law, only the civil Register Office ceremony. So a wife married under Sharia alone is not married as far as UK law is concerned. If he dies, she has no right to inheritance above his blood relations (which might include their children but not her).

A Sharia divorce is also not recognised. If a couple were married only by Sharia, and divorced by Sharia, as far as UK law is concerned they were never married at any time. If they were married in a Register Office as well, the Sharia divorce is meaningless in UK law. They would have to divorce by UK law as well.

But Sharia marriage ceremonies can be very elaborate and expensive. The couple may well feel they are "married" having pledged themselves in front of dozens of friends and relations. But legally? They are still unmarried.

The same is true of most religious marriage in the UK except the Church of England which does both marriages at once. 'Signing the Register' in a Church of England marriage IS the civil ceremony as well.

So, a Sharia marriage (or divorce) has no more standing than a marriage by Flying Spaghetti Monster, by an Elvis tribute act, or by jumping over a burning bush. They might mean something to the couple but have no force in UK law.

BUT - and it is a big BUT - a Sharia marriage that took place in a country that recognises Sharia marriage IS legal in the UK as a matter of courtesy. All marriage customs of visitors coming to the UK are recognised as valid. But if the married couple want to divorce in the UK? They had better get good lawyers. They'll need them to sort out the mess, just as you would if you married in Vegas. Is it a valid marriage? Ask a lawyer. Can we divorce? Ask a lawyer. What happens if one of us dies? Ask a lawyer.

It is cheaper to go through the simple Register Office ceremony - that saves lawyers' fees.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

This is a perfect example of why we have a large, angry silent majority many of whom are supporting Trump.

It's painful. There is no longer a give and take of ideas, there is just one idea, the idea of the Liberal consensus and the people who do not accept the consensus as "settled [fill in the blank]" are to be objects of ridicule. As you can see from a couple of posts above, even the educated are not above reproach...

But this pattern is a historic pattern, many people have written about it, and all reprimanded by the Socialists for daring to point out the poison pill of consensual thought, i.e., lynch mobs, torches and pitchforks. The welcoming of autonomous tribes was best studied by Gibbons. The consensus is not a student of history as well pointed out by Jörg Guido Hülsmann in The Last Knight of Liberalism, the youth of each modern generation have looked at technological advances equating them with Social Evolution. Technology does not abrogate human behavior (Human Action).

So, people such as I have two choices, shut up or withstand the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. I will shut up when I am slain by death, no the comical castigation of the Communist-leaning castratti....

 

[Smootg103]

This is a perfect example of why we have a large, angry silent majority many of whom are supporting Trump.

It's painful. There is no longer a give and take of ideas, there is just one idea, the idea of the Liberal consensus and the people who do not accept the consensus as "settled [fill in the blank]" are to be objects of ridicule. As you can see from a couple of posts above, even the educated are not above reproach...

But this pattern is a historic pattern, many people have written about it, and all reprimanded by the Socialists for daring to point out the poison pill of consensual thought, i.e., lynch mobs, torches and pitchforks. The welcoming of autonomous tribes was best studied by Gibbons. The consensus is not a student of history as well pointed out by Jörg Guido Hülsmann in The Last Knight of Liberalism, the youth of each modern generation have looked at technological advances equating them with Social Evolution. Technology does not abrogate human behavior (Human Action).

So, people such as I have two choices, shut up or withstand the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune. I will shut up when I am slain by death, no the comical castigation of the Communist-leaning castratti....

You poor victim brah!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Ogg...

I divorce you...
I divorce you...
I divorce you...

Is sufficient for a Sharia marriage.

They don't give a flying squirrels' furry-tailed rat's ass about your laws on marriage.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You poor victim brah!

I am actually a middle class drive-by victim; in short, one of that class that actually foots the bill for this fucking multicultural moral relativistic madness that has become Western "culture."

The poor aren't paying for any of this nonsense and the rich purchase "Social Indulgences."

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Aella,



One of the tells is how quickly they respond to a post that actually takes some time to read and digest.



You know, then, that they are just sock puppets striving to look clever for the people whom they admire in the consensus' leadership, none of who read or post here...

 

[Hypoxia]

There is Shara law here in the U.S. too. It's falls under contractual law. As long as all parties agree to it AND it doesn't conflict with or undermine the laws of the land it isn't any different then an employee abiding by a company's policies and procedures. If it does conflict with a law, then it needs to be addressed and corrected.

And it's thus equivalent to ecclesiastical laws (any faith), social club bylaws, homeowners' association rules, posting guidelines on private websites, and casino rules. If you want to play any group's game, follow their rules, so long as they don't violate secular law. If you don't like the rules, don't play the game. Sharia needn't be Wahhabi.
_____

What I really want to address is assimilation. USA really does suck immigrants into the mainstream culture. After one generation, most immigrants forget their parents' language. After two generations, many with Asian and Latino heritage identify themselves as White. After three generations, they're mainstream.

USA has not always been assimilationist, mostly due to cultural isolation in the era before broadcasting and national highways. Ben Franklin warned 250 years ago of a large isolated subculture that would never become American, never use English as their mother tongue.

Who were these intransigents? Germans. Many parts of the nation had solid German communities. Many stayed pretty monolithic... until 1914-1918. Once Yanks went to war against The Hun, those fucking Krauts, it was no longer feasible to be German in USA. Many Schmidts became Smiths overnight. German-Americans suddenly, necessarily, assimilated.

Cultural immersion does the trick. Once Arab kids see Judge Judy or whatever, they'll never go back to Sharia.

 

[snugglestruggle]

so is a a NAZI armband

so is this

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Ku_Klux_Klan_Virgina_1922_Parade.jpg

BB, where did you find that 50's photo of a democrat caucus meeting?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I grew up in a German community on a fourth family generation farm.

Originally, that all spoke German mainly because they were German, there weren't many Americans willing to take a risk in the great KANSAS desert. It was just natural. My grandparents never spoke German to my father, not because of the war, but because industry and English were coming to the area and they wanted their children to be as of proud as Americans as they were. Then the new growing American city condemned the family farm for "infrastructure."

Eminent Domain

They did not change for the war. My Grandfather was a pacifist of the highest order.

 

[smartjuanxxx]

Google RACISTS and TERRORISTS and pics of DUMZ show up

 

[SalviaDivinorum]

Blobfish?