Application of sharia law by country"

[Sean]

Blobfish?

Nah, this one is waaay dumber.

 

[Sean]

This is a perfect example of why we have a large, angry silent majority many of whom are supporting Trump.

This made me laugh. So far, Trump has gained the support of 6% of the electorate. Six per cent. This is why everyone laughs at the GOP, they live in their own little confirmation biased bubble and reality be damned!

 

[SalviaDivinorum]

Nah, this one is waaay dumber.

Yes. And to be fair, blob was pretty generous with the dick pics...

 

[snugglestruggle]

This made me laugh. So far, Trump has gained the support of 6% of the electorate. Six per cent. This is why everyone laughs at the GOP, they live in their own little confirmation biased bubble and reality be damned!

Sean, why is Bernie trying to grab Trumps ass in your siggy gif?

 

[anchoredinocean]

You know someone is grasping at straws when they grasp at their beloved Mises disciples.

 

[Aella_]

I was a shop steward for our union local for 12 years. You are correct: after dealing with management for that length of time over some of the stupidest shit (from both sides) the GB is tame. The union members thought the contact protected them for any infraction, even if they were guilty as sin. Management on the other hand assumed the contract only applied if it benefited their stated case and could be ignored if it didn't. As a shop steward I got crap from the members because everything didn't go their way and crap from management because I was the face of the union. Because the retribution couldn't be done outright it was always done in a back handed, hidden way. I took it as long as I could then stepped down. Even then I caught shit from the members for abandoning the job. Funny thing is none of them stepped up to take my place, brave souls that they were. If you love chaos, if you love confrontation, if you love getting your ass beat from both sides, that's the job for you. I am happily retired now and enjoy the hell out of it.

As far as my opinion of the OP and this discussion: He started out with a clear bias but tried to hide it under a facade of neutrality and reasonableness. He was looking for someone to agree with his bias when he posted this. When he couldn't find it on the PB, he put it here hoping one of the people who think like him would post an opinion. AJ was very willing to do just that.

There is Shara law here in the U.S. too. It's falls under contractual law. As long as all parties agree to it AND it doesn't conflict with or undermine the laws of the land it isn't any different then an employee abiding by a company's policies and procedures. If it does conflict with a law, then it needs to be addressed and corrected. Way to many see the application of a bastardized version that is used by ISIS and automatically assume that all versions are the same. My answer to that is: does the rules followed by the Westboro Baptist Church, The Branch Davidians or Jim Jones and his followers mean that all Christians follow the same rules? Or perhaps we can agree that those are/were christian based cults, much like ISIS is a Muslim based cult.

Most times I say little and just listen. My daddy told me that if you listen more then you talk, you'll learn a whole hell of a lot more then if your gums are flapping.

Back to my post against the wall.

'nuff said.

Comshaw

First of all, it's a "she". Only the GB progressive dumbasses believe (or pretend to believe) otherwise.

And yes, I did start with and continue to have a clear bias (that I don't like the idea of the existence -be they official or underground- of Sharia "Courts"). I never pretended otherwise. I see myself as being a moderate feminist, and the way in which divorce and domestic abuse were handled by some Sharia "Councils" (aka self -appointed underground Sharia Courts) still irks me.
Please try to view the BBC Panorama documentary. I might not be a credible poster, but That is a more reliable source.

The only thing that I needed to clarify was that I currently don't believe that the Daesh version of a Sharia Council applies in the UK. And no, I got kindof worked up here and over the top but the main idea wasn't to attack Oggbashan or his positipn on this topic. Not at all. As I said, I always respected him and his willingness to share his knowledge and wisdom.

If I would be forced to engage in self-criticism, I'd say that my english/communication skills p, and level of restraint aren't a 10. That's all.

 

[anchoredinocean]

19 more posts after he says he is done, ha.

 

[Aella_]

19 more posts after he says he is done, ha.

Why is it that you sound so much like Adjudicator? Never mind, you can be fun.

 

[Aella_]

Secrets Of Britain's Sharia Councils BBC Documentary
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-7TjzSSZUvg


Sharia courts in Britain are locking women into “marital captivity” and doing nothing to officially report domestic violence, according to an academic who gained unprecedented access to Islamic divorce hearings.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...to-marital-captivity-study-says-a6761141.html

"The findings will reignite the debate about the rise of sharia in the UK. Sharia courts – or councils as they are known – cannot overrule regular courts, but are responsible for issuing Islamic divorce certificates and giving advice on other aspects of religious law.

Men do not need to initiate divorce hearings, because under sharia they can assert a divorce verbally, without outside affirmation.

Most of the “informal tribunals” at sharia councils deal with Muslim women asking for a religious divorce.

Although sharia divorce courts are acknowledged as mediation and arbitration bodies under the 1996 Arbitration Act, Ms Zee claims they generally act for one party rather than solving disputes. The judges are “not a neutral third party” but are “always in favour of the man, and set out to frustrate women whose husbands do not want them to leave", she writes.

She says she was told of instances of children being awarded to the father, contrary to rules against custody judgments.

She was shocked by some of the cases she witnessed in London, where she claims women faced discriminatory treatment. She says she saw women who were shackled by their husbands’ debts being asked for “large sums of money” for their divorce requests ."

 

[oggbashan]

Ogg...

I divorce you...
I divorce you...
I divorce you...

Is sufficient for a Sharia marriage.

They don't give a flying squirrels' furry-tailed rat's ass about your laws on marriage.

Because it isn't a marriage under UK law.

And it wasn't effective. You have to do it in public in front of an Imam.

Where's your Imam?

 

[oggbashan]

Post #109 is repeating post #34:

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=76275132&postcount=34

All that is listed is against UK law. Sharia has no status against UK laws. There are other religious courts for other religions that have existed ONLY for religious matters for centuries.

Men do not need to initiate divorce hearings, because under sharia they can assert a divorce verbally, without outside affirmation.


That is because a Sharia marriage is meaningless in UK law. So is a Sharia divorce, ending something that does not exist in law.

However, if a couple, legally married in England, divorce under English Law, their religious marriage isn't ended by the English court. If they are Roman Catholic, the divorce is NEVER recognised by the Catholic church who consider the couple married until death. Neither of them can marry anyone else in a Catholic ceremony.

If they are Muslim, after the civil divorce by English Law, they can divorce by Sharia as well, freeing them to marry someone else in religious terms.

 

[Aella_]

Post #109 is repeating post #34:

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=76275132&postcount=34

All that is listed is against UK law. Sharia has no status against UK laws. There are other religious courts for other religions that have existed ONLY for religious matters for centuries.

Men do not need to initiate divorce hearings, because under sharia they can assert a divorce verbally, without outside affirmation.


That is because a Sharia marriage is meaningless in UK law. So is a Sharia divorce, ending something that does not exist in law.

However, if a couple, legally married in England, divorce under English Law, their religious marriage isn't ended by the English court. If they are Roman Catholic, the divorce is NEVER recognised by the Catholic church who consider the couple married until death. Neither of them can marry anyone else in a Catholic ceremony.

If they are Muslim, after the civil divorce by English Law, they can divorce by Sharia as well, freeing them to marry someone else in religious terms.

Thanks for clarifying that , Oggbashan.

 

[Aella_]

In a matter perhaps unrelated to this thread:
If one checks the "Comments" sections online, and from many of my acquaintances (immigrants who have friends and relatives back there):

There's a feeling among some people that the mainstream media is either minimising, or glossing over a few cases of antisocial acts committed by a small group of muslims (those with misogynistic views and antisocial tendencies). See the Cologne attacks and several more isolated acts of hooliganism. And that it all looks somehow positively biased.

One can understand why they're doing it - fear of inappropriate generalizations by some(all muslims are bad) or of an an increase in islamophobia. Because anti-semitism and islamophobia Are indeed on the rise in Europe.
It all comes across as propagandistic and that's not helping.

Sean, why is Bernie trying to grab Trumps ass in your siggy gif?

He's such a dork, isn't he? Him and his best bud Disgustipated too.

 

[snugglestruggle]

In a matter perhaps unrelated to this thread:
If one checks the "Comments" sections online, and from many of my acquaintances (immigrants who have friends and relatives back there):

There is a feeling among some people that the mainstream media is either minimizing, or glossing over a few cases of antisocial acts committed by a small group of muslims (those with misogynistic views and antisocial tendencies). See the Cologne attacks and several more isolated acts of hooliganism. And that it looks somehow pozitively biased.

One can understand why they're doing it - fear of inappropriate generalizations on the part of the population (all muslims are bad) or of an increase in islamophobia. Because indeed, anti-semitism and islamophobia Are on the ride in Europe.
But it all comes across as propagandistic and that's not helping.



He's such a dork, isn't he? Him and his best bud Disgustipated too.

I wouldn't know, I don't pay much attention to anything either of them say. Both can be amusing at times. Techies in general tend to have some dorkness in them though.

 

[Disgustipated]

I grew up in a German community on a fourth family generation farm.

Originally, that all spoke German mainly because they were German, there weren't many Americans willing to take a risk in the great KANSAS desert. It was just natural. My grandparents never spoke German to my father, not because of the war, but because industry and English were coming to the area and they wanted their children to be as of proud as Americans as they were. Then the new growing American city condemned the family farm for "infrastructure."

Eminent Domain

They did not change for the war. My Grandfather was a pacifist of the highest order.

Where ya gonna grow up next week, Cap'n?

 

[Aella_]

∧∧∧∧ Just proved my point.
Leaving their stoopid politics aside, they can be so f..g funny!! In a more teenage sort of way.

 

[Aella_]

Leaving politics aside for a sec. It just occurred to me:

Sean and Disgustipated, and Busybody too, can be so funny!

Tell us, which one of you three will feel offended first - that I lumped you all together ?

 

[Emerson40]

Us?

 

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Ah, the good ol' Ostrich Maneuver. Always a crowd favourite.

 

[Aella_]

Ah, the good ol' Ostrich Maneuver. Always a crowd favourite.

I didn't put one after your name, so stop whineing.

 

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[Liar]

I didn't put one after your name, so stop whineing.

If you think this is me whining, your reading non-emoji skills need some work.