Are large penises more common than is believed?

[HampshireBoy]

As has already been said, and at the risk of going maths geek The important thing to consider is that penis length is a bell curve (no pun intended). So there is "average" as in mean value (literally all lengths added together and divided by the number of men in the survey), median (the middle point of the data set) and mode (the most common value). Most surveys will use mean, though some may use median. The small print will talk about standard deviation, which is a measure of the amount of variation.

I did see a study a few years ago, which claimed to collate data from a number of studies and therefore have a data set of a few hundred thousand men. As far as I recall, the mean value for about 5.75 inches length with the vast majority being between 4 and 8. There was some racial variation, though not as much as anecdotal evidence might suggest.

One thing that also came out was that most people are really bad at estimating size and self measuring was not a reliable measure.

My conclusions are, you have what your genetics have given you - no point worrying about it. Most men are a compatible size for most women, there are of course some miss-matches, then it comes down to compatibility in what you like and what could crudely be called "skills".

Some women like "Big ones", others might prefer "little ones", all down to personal experience and taste. Don't get hung up on it.

 

[Colonelinguist]

When it comes to dating and penis size I would make the following observations:

• Most women do have some preference in penis size. It may not be high priority but it isn't completely irrelevant either. And the degree to which it matters is usually directly correlated to the degree to which the man's actual penis size varies from her preferred range. Most women seem to prefer average to moderately larger than average with an emphasis on girth. A notable minority prefer much larger. And I am sure there are some that prefer smaller than average but I haven't come across that. To the extent that a man's penis size becomes a meaningful factor for a woman deciding whether to date him or not, chances are very low that he will ever know it. Nothing is gained by hurting a man's feelings and doing so is quite likely to lead to a nasty backlash so 99% of the time that a man doesn't measure up, the woman will just move along quietly.
• Most people do not aspire to date average in relation to any criteria. Even if penis size isn't a significant factor in how a woman chooses men to date, she probably does consider other physical characteristics that are correlated to penis size. If an attractive woman is so inclined she can primarily date men who are tall, broad shouldered, athletic, etc. And chances are that based upon her own cultural context, she may be more likely to date within an ethnic group that skews to a larger average cock size. Average in her world is very different than the population at large.
• People tend to go on repeat dates and make those decisions based upon known characteristics of the people they date. It isn't like every date is a new roll of the dice. And it isn't like the objective/criteria are the same every time. Even if personality, sense of humour and intelligence are my top criteria in a man that doesn't mean there won't be some times when good dick or big dick moves up the priority list for one date. And even if I like a man with an average sized penis and a talented tongue just as much as a man with larger cock doesn't mean that I will always see them as interchangeable.
• Larger than average cocks are neither exceptionally common nor rare. Some of us like them and consider that as one of many criteria in choosing a man. There is nothing right or wrong about it. We all get to like what we like and the consensus of what other people think is irrelevant.

Dear policywank:

You are indeed one intelligent, confident and mysterious lady, and I haven’t even met you yet.
So hello PW, and please allow me to thank you for your continued edification on this beautiful July morning. I love acquiring important information PW, and that first reply you sent me in wee hours of the morning had chest, all puffed up, and as I explained to B flat (Bb),
another guy on this same thread on the pros and cons of a man Penis size, ‘according to policywank, I just found out that I am one of a very elite group of just 2% all American men with penises 8” or more in length, damn it!’
And I especially enjoyed your latest reply, I which you got the really important stuff; the variances of different women’s Preferences regarding a mans Penis sizes; the influences of their individual cultural backgrounds as well as their ethnicity, and also the important of her evaluation of a guys personality; his intelligence and his sense of humor as part of the the equation, if you will, of who she ultimately welcomed into her bed. but towards the last few paragraph, it seems as if you were speaking to me about your own Preferences and desires, and then I got really interested, and even a little more than aroused policywank.
Us men can really be slow sometimes, when comes to picking up on signal someone’s sending us PW
( and I sure hope that acronym that I have assigned to your username isn’t bugging the shit out of you to much ) but I usually sense intelligence in someone, when it exists, before anything else; especially in this new world of words, where one can only imagine the physical appearance of those people we chat with. Stupid is as stupid does, but intelligence and character seems to shine through in this virtual world. I need to get going PW, but hit me up. I’d like for you and I chat some more but I’m ‘leaving the ball in your court’ for now, but seeing as how the initial topic was, ‘what is considered a small average or an above average Cock,’ I’m gonna a little piece of my mind, since I’ve been told repeatedly that it the true location of my brain much of the time:

 

[SlutAddicted]

Hello!

There are "studies" that say the "average" penis size is around 5.25 inches with the most common range is from 5-6 inches. And some studies say being over 7 inches is about 1 out of a 1000 men and that 8 inches and above is about 1 out of a thousand guys with 7 inches or more. Yet, it seems that most peoples personal experiences (here included) there are a very large number of guys well over 7 inches. So, the question is are "giant" manhood's vastly more common than the known statics indicate?

I remember in school. There was this one guy. He was about five foot seven and maybe 150 pounds. Coke bottle glasses and whiter than white should be. Looks like he was in Engineering school which he was. He liked to parade around in the bathroom showers and, believe it or not, his penis stretch down to his kneecaps and was as big around as your forearm. Almost unbelievable size. Bigger than I have even seen in p0rn. He most likely was like a one in a million type of guy. Like someone being over 8 feet tall. But, there are giants among us.

So according to that math a guy with a 7" cock is 1 out of a 1,000 and a guy with an 8+" cock is one in a million (1 in 1,000x1,000). No sorry dude but that is bullshit. They certainly aren't as common as porn would have us believe but they aren't that rare. None of the statistics that I have seen suggest anywhere near that rare.

Nor does the anecdotal evidence. I live in a City of 1,000,000 people and I can tell you that my wife has found a lot more than one guy with an 8+" cock.

 

[SlutAddicted]

To the extent that a man's penis size becomes a meaningful factor for a woman deciding whether to date him or not, chances are very low that he will ever know it. Nothing is gained by hurting a man's feelings and doing so is quite likely to lead to a nasty backlash so 99% of the time that a man doesn't measure up, the woman will just move along quietly.

Something along these lines always crosses my mind whenever I hear or read a man claim "I've never had any complaints". This one of the more spuriously ridiculous claims a man can make and one which instantly lays bare the extent of his insecurity and capacity for self delusion.

 

[lil_jenni]

Something along these lines always crosses my mind whenever I hear or read a man claim "I've never had any complaints". This one of the more spuriously ridiculous claims a man can make and one which instantly lays bare the extent of his insecurity and capacity for self delusion.

Conversely, if you tell a guy he's too big, he might just use it as swagger points. And yes, I do speak from experience. I told a guy I hooked up with in college that there was no way I was letting him try to put his huge cock (long and thick, biggest I ever saw in real life) inside me without me being really, really drunk. He got a BJ (one of the most challenging ones I ever gave), and then bragging rights that I had told him he was too big.

I should clarify I'm definitely on the smaller side. I'd say around 7" is the longest I can take without cervix pain. It's just he was so big, I blurted it out.

 

[Goldenfinger]

Conversely, if you tell a guy he's too big, he might just use it as swagger points. And yes, I do speak from experience. I told a guy I hooked up with in college that there was no way I was letting him try to put his huge cock (long and thick, biggest I ever saw in real life) inside me without me being really, really drunk. He got a BJ (one of the most challenging ones I ever gave), and then bragging rights that I had told him he was too big.

I should clarify I'm definitely on the smaller side. I'd say around 7" is the longest I can take without cervix pain. It's just he was so big, I blurted it out.

This is more realistic than most stories I’ve heard. I’m a good size guy a 6’4”. I have a penis that fits my body. I’d say most of women I’ve been with would experience pain if I was to push in too deep. So I don’t understand how a woman can take a 10+ in cock.

 

[SlutAddicted]

Conversely, if you tell a guy he's too big, he might just use it as swagger points. And yes, I do speak from experience. I told a guy I hooked up with in college that there was no way I was letting him try to put his huge cock (long and thick, biggest I ever saw in real life) inside me without me being really, really drunk. He got a BJ (one of the most challenging ones I ever gave), and then bragging rights that I had told him he was too big.

I should clarify I'm definitely on the smaller side. I'd say around 7" is the longest I can take without cervix pain. It's just he was so big, I blurted it out.

Yes I can see that. I'd like to think that most guys have the capacity to be a bit more reserved and discrete, but especially among young men this is often not the case.

 

[policywank]

This is more realistic than most stories I’ve heard. I’m a good size guy a 6’4”. I have a penis that fits my body. I’d say most of women I’ve been with would experience pain if I was to push in too deep. So I don’t understand how a woman can take a 10+ in cock.

A cock that is 10+" is truly rare. I think that the physiology of any given woman might have something to do with it. I have always had what seems to be a higher than average ability to take big cocks based upon anecdotal evidence from discussions with other women. Of course arousal has a lot to do with it as the vaginal canal extends and relaxes when truly aroused.

I also think that technique has a lot to do with it. A lot of times we hear women who have experienced discomfort with a large cock refer to it as being "punched" in the cervix. That is painful and unpleasant, but that outcome is a by-product of technique as well as cock size. It is the impact that causes the pain - kind of like opening a door by punching it rather than putting your hand on it and gently pushing it open. In the case of the cervix obviously the point isn't to enter it but there is soft sensitive tissue around it that will flex and adapt if you treat it properly. The result is a sense of pressure but it is also very pleasurable.

In a way I think it is a bit like your balls. If I punch them and chew on them like they are beef jerky you aren't gonna want me anywhere near them. However, if I suck on them and apply gentle pressure in the right way it can be very pleasurable. But we need to have a good rapport and you need to trust me before we go there.

I also draw some parallels between taking a big dick and the doing anal or deep throat. There is some initial discomfort, which comes in part from one's own resistance as well as technique. Many women just stop at that initial discomfort and never go beyond. But if you train yourself to relax and have a good partner (i.e. do not stuff your cock down my throat or ram it in my ass) it is well worth it.

Reality is that we have nerve endings all throughout our vaginal canal and for me the more of them you touch the more intense is my experience. Getting to those nerve endings deeper in that most men can't reach can be especially stimulating, perhaps due to the infrequency with which that happens. The total surface area of the cock (which is a function of girth and length) also enhances the number of nerve endings a man stimulates. And I like the feeling of being full both from girth or length (although if I have to choose I will pick girth). There are extra sensitive areas at the deepest end of my vaginal canal, but they aren't a no go zone if you know what you are doing.

 

[lil_jenni]

Of course arousal has a lot to do with it as the vaginal canal extends and relaxes when truly aroused.

I have to be both aroused and mentally relaxed to keep just the act of a penis penetrating me from hurting. It is very much a mental thing, one that I used alcohol to get around when I was younger. To date, my husband is the only man I have ever had sex with when I was not buzzed or drunk.

In the case of the cervix obviously the point isn't to enter it but there is soft sensitive tissue around it that will flex and adapt if you treat it properly. The result is a sense of pressure but it is also very pleasurable.

The way you describe it leaves me a little envious. I have never had that experience. All I have ever experienced is pain, but I suspect it is tied to my comment above. Of course, my experiences with vaginal sex and penises larger than average all came before I graduated college, and always with guys around the same age. And they were not guys with whom I had any type of relationship, just hookups. I do sometimes wonder if it would be different with a man who knew what he was doing with his length.

 

[policywank]

Dear policywank:

You are indeed one intelligent, confident and mysterious lady, and I haven’t even met you yet.
So hello PW, and please allow me to thank you for your continued edification on this beautiful July morning. I love acquiring important information PW, and that first reply you sent me in wee hours of the morning had chest, all puffed up, and as I explained to B flat (Bb),
another guy on this same thread on the pros and cons of a man Penis size, ‘according to policywank, I just found out that I am one of a very elite group of just 2% all American men with penises 8” or more in length, damn it!’
And I especially enjoyed your latest reply, I which you got the really important stuff; the variances of different women’s Preferences regarding a mans Penis sizes; the influences of their individual cultural backgrounds as well as their ethnicity, and also the important of her evaluation of a guys personality; his intelligence and his sense of humor as part of the the equation, if you will, of who she ultimately welcomed into her bed. but towards the last few paragraph, it seems as if you were speaking to me about your own Preferences and desires, and then I got really interested, and even a little more than aroused policywank.
Us men can really be slow sometimes, when comes to picking up on signal someone’s sending us PW
( and I sure hope that acronym that I have assigned to your username isn’t bugging the shit out of you to much ) but I usually sense intelligence in someone, when it exists, before anything else; especially in this new world of words, where one can only imagine the physical appearance of those people we chat with. Stupid is as stupid does, but intelligence and character seems to shine through in this virtual world. I need to get going PW, but hit me up. I’d like for you and I chat some more but I’m ‘leaving the ball in your court’ for now, but seeing as how the initial topic was, ‘what is considered a small average or an above average Cock,’ I’m gonna a little piece of my mind, since I’ve been told repeatedly that it the true location of my brain much of the time:

Thank you colonel. It is very nice to be appreciated. I must admit that I often find the dialogue around penis size to be challenging from a female point of view. The simple truth as I see it is that penis size isn't nearly as important as guys worry that it is and porn does present a distorted view of the subject, but it isn't irrelevant to a woman's sexual experience and we shouldn't have to pretend otherwise. In this particular thread the OP seemed to be seeking an honest answer rather than confirmation of his preferred answer so I am pleased to participate in the discussion. I am always happy to receive PMs or comment in the threads if you wish to discuss further.

 

[policywank]

I have to be both aroused and mentally relaxed to keep just the act of a penis penetrating me from hurting. It is very much a mental thing, one that I used alcohol to get around when I was younger. To date, my husband is the only man I have ever had sex with when I was not buzzed or drunk.


The way you describe it leaves me a little envious. I have never had that experience. All I have ever experienced is pain, but I suspect it is tied to my comment above. Of course, my experiences with vaginal sex and penises larger than average all came before I graduated college, and always with guys around the same age. And they were not guys with whom I had any type of relationship, just hookups. I do sometimes wonder if it would be different with a man who knew what he was doing with his length.

For me that arousal and mental state is very important and it is something that has evolved over time. I certainly wasn't able to embrace it as well when I was in college. And it is only more recently that I am able to embrace it in a hookup context (having had many years and experiences to know myself sexually). Although those hookup events are rare for me. Most of my lovers have been and are men that I see on a regular basis and with whom I have developed a relationship. Those relationships vary and none are comparable to what I have with my husband, but they are very important to the sexual, mental and emotional connection.

I think that there was a time when I tended to put all intimate interactions into one of two categories - either purely casual and superficial (i.e. hookup) or romantic with the potential of a long-term commitment. But there is so much more in between that is worth exploring.

 

[jehoram]

I'm about 5 inches when hard, thats about average isnt it ?

certainly within the range of "normal." I'm sure that will do the job of satisfying a partner if you know how to use it.

 

[policywank]

certainly within the range of "normal." I'm sure that will do the job of satisfying a partner if you know how to use it.

I think that it is helpful to consider the scope and variety of sexual pleasure. For me it isn’t simply a matter of a binary outcome of satisfied or not. There are infinite possibilities - kind of like cuisine. You don’t need to have a large penis to provide a pleasurable experience just like you don’t have to have one specific ingredient to make a great meal. But it is human nature to have certain things that we like and for some of us a large penis might be one of those things.

That doesn’t mean it is all important or that I want it all the time. If I am in the mood for steak and you are serving fish that is just fine - I will enjoy my dinner with maturity and gratitude. But if we are in a restaurant and steak is on the menu and that is what I want I’m going to order it and I don’t need anybody trying to tell me the fish is just as good or that it is a full substitute.

Likewise I appreciate a man with a talented tongue as much as I enjoy a big dick. But one isn’t a substitute for the other - they are different experiences.

 

[longboy2022]

A thick cock that tapers into a perky, smaller knob is adorable. I have seen such a thing, held it, played with it.

And what about a thick one that has a huge mushroom knob on the end, no foreskin?

 

[hanban24]

So based on my understanding and personal experience, the “averages” that are listed in those studies are fairly accurate but maybe not right on the nose. I’ve certainly been with more in the 6-7” range than the 5” range.

I do know that weight plays a factor. As people get fatter, the fat covers up some of their size. With the number of obese people in the world, that could play a factor. I don’t go toward the heavier guys most of the time, so that might be why I’ve seen a little longer in my average.

 

[IARainman]

I’m betting nearly 50 percent are above average

 

[lil_jenni]

I’m betting nearly 50 percent are above average

You are thinking of the median, not the mean (average). The mean is susceptible to skewing by outlying data points. Also, the mean can be a value not even found in the dataset. For example, let's take the oversimplified hypothetical dataset of twelve penis lengths: 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, 5, 5.5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7, 9, 9. In this data set, the mean/average is 5.875". But note that there are seven values below the average and five values above. In other words, the average does not denote the value that is is the middle of the range -- the median does that (here it is 5.5"). Also note how just two larger outliers skew the mean. Further, also note that the average is not a value found in the dataset in this example.

Now, some of you may be thinking that the same is true on the smaller side, that outliers can skew the average. and you would be right. Consider the following dataset:
3.5, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5, 6, 7, 7, 7.5, 8, 9. The mean is the same -- 5.875", and so is the median (5.5"). Also note that the least and greatest values are the same. However, this second hypothetical dataset has six values over the average instead of five, as well as five values of 7+ inches whereas the other hypothetical dataset only has three values of 7+ inches.

So what does this tell us? That focusing on the mean (average) does not provide us with the most common penis length, nor does it even tell us much about the distribution of penis lengths within the dataset.

 

[savmitch1038]

Guys, get over penis size. You have what your born with. Own it!!! Some men are hung, some aren't. Some women love hung men, some women do not. I was given average length (6.25") and above average girth (6"). No matter how much I obsess over having 8" in my pants, it ain't happening. Learn to be an expert with your tool and have fun!

 

[Jeph77]

And what about a thick one that has a huge mushroom knob on the end, no foreskin?

jaw dropping, ready for worship

 

[longboy2022]

Guys, get over penis size. You have what your born with. Own it!!! Some men are hung, some aren't. Some women love hung men, some women do not. I was given average length (6.25") and above average girth (6"). No matter how much I obsess over having 8" in my pants, it ain't happening. Learn to be an expert with your tool and have fun!

Have you tried hanging a weight off it?

 

[longboy2022]

You are thinking of the median, not the mean (average). The mean is susceptible to skewing by outlying data points. Also, the mean can be a value not even found in the dataset. For example, let's take the oversimplified hypothetical dataset of twelve penis lengths: 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, 5, 5.5, 5.5, 6, 6.5, 7, 9, 9. In this data set, the mean/average is 5.875". But note that there are seven values below the average and five values above. In other words, the average does not denote the value that is is the middle of the range -- the median does that (here it is 5.5"). Also note how just two larger outliers skew the mean. Further, also note that the average is not a value found in the dataset in this example.

Now, some of you may be thinking that the same is true on the smaller side, that outliers can skew the average. and you would be right. Consider the following dataset:
3.5, 3.5, 4, 4.5, 5, 5.5, 6, 7, 7, 7.5, 8, 9. The mean is the same -- 5.875", and so is the median (5.5"). Also note that the least and greatest values are the same. However, this second hypothetical dataset has six values over the average instead of five, as well as five values of 7+ inches whereas the other hypothetical dataset only has three values of 7+ inches.

So what does this tell us? That focusing on the mean (average) does not provide us with the most common penis length, nor does it even tell us much about the distribution of penis lengths within the dataset.

Are these pricks measured flaccid or erect or fully aroused,? Mine, flaccid, after cold sea bathing, is minute. Erect 7 inches. Fully aroused, you know, when it twitches, pulsating, its 7.5 inches.

 

[longboy2022]

So based on my understanding and personal experience, the “averages” that are listed in those studies are fairly accurate but maybe not right on the nose. I’ve certainly been with more in the 6-7” range than the 5” range.

I do know that weight plays a factor. As people get fatter, the fat covers up some of their size. With the number of obese people in the world, that could play a factor. I don’t go toward the heavier guys most of the time, so that might be why I’ve seen a little longer in my average.

Do you pop a tape measure on pre fucking?

 

[lil_jenni]

Are these pricks measured flaccid or erect or fully aroused,? Mine, flaccid, after cold sea bathing, is minute. Erect 7 inches. Fully aroused, you know, when it twitches, pulsating, its 7.5 inches.

They were measured hypothetically, as the datasets are hypothetical datasets used to prove a point about the problematic nature of looking at average penis size as a framework for evaluating an individual's endowment.

 

[longboy2022]

Then the endowment would be hypothetical too?

 

[fma20fma]

A thick cock that tapers into a perky, smaller knob is adorable. I have seen such a thing, held it, played with it.

ideal for bareback sodomy with proper lube and in face down flat on bed posture.