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oggbashan said:
In the 1950s Australia's immigration policy was (insert abusive word here). They welcomed white Europeans but that was all.

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Not even that. The first people labelled wogs were the Italians and Greeks in the early 50's. Nino Culotta's (John o'Grady's) book "They're a weird mob" 1957 was sold as comedy - today it would be considered blatant racism.

In the early 1950's the NSW town of Wentworth was saved from the destruction of a terrible flood through the courage and hard work of Italian migrant fruit farmers, who used their Ferguson tractors to build levees for 72 hours non stop. The Anglo Australians locals who had run away returned shame faced a few days later.

They felt there should be some sort of memorial but couldn't bring themselves to honour the men involved because everyone knew Italians were cowards, weren't they? So they erected a monument with a model of a Ferguson T20 tractor on it. That monument still stands but two generations later a plaque was added to explain the facts behind it.

Australian policy to legal migrants is tough but very fair; to illegal migrants it is brutal, they are sent to the 'processing centres' on Manus island (PNG) or Nauru. It would be like the USA sending their illegal migrants to Guantanamo bay - except that conditions at Guantanamo are much better than Manus.

Migration has helped double the Australian population since Og left, Asian people being particularly successful.
 
^^ I don't know, but all I need to do is think of the title and 'Waltzing Matilda' starts running in my head.
 
jaF0 said:
^^ I don't know, but all I need to do is think of the title and 'Waltzing Matilda' starts running in my head.
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Damn, by crikey, you're right! We sang that in kindergarten around the time of the Suez Crisis. We learned about 'swag' and 'billy' but not 'roos. I think one showed up in a Bugs Bunny cartoon but with no real reference to Oz.

At least we didn't have filthy Koala Kare diaper-changing stations then. Whew.
 
ishtat said:
Not even that. The first people labelled wogs were the Italians and Greeks in the early 50's. Nino Culotta's (John o'Grady's) book "They're a weird mob" 1957 was sold as comedy - today it would be considered blatant racism.

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I still have my first edition of They're a Weird Mob" signed by John O'Grady. I didn't and don't think it was racist. It was a satirical attack on Australian attitudes to Italian immigrants.

As for Asian immigrants? A few years ago I had an 1850s Chinese language newspaper for the miners of Ballarat. The Chinese miners were indentured labourers. They were treated like slaves and not allowed citizenship rights. I have attached scans of it. It is now in a Ballarat Museum.

This is someone else's summary of that newspaper:

Rare newspaper “The English and Chinese Advertiser”. 1857.
Printed & published by Robert Bell, Main Road, Ballaarat.
The printer spells Ballarat with two a’s.

2ND. YEAR – NO. 60 Saturday November 28 1857. Gratis

It is discoloured with age, being more of a buff colour rather than white.

Looking at the front of the newspaper, part of the bottom right hand corner is missing.

There are four pages in total measuring approx sixteen inches by eleven and a quarter (410mm x 285mm).

A Government Notice is splashed across the front page regarding the tent layout, stating that they must all be facing the same way with a three feet gap between each tent.
Also, the area has to be kept clean. Failure to do so will incur a penalty of £5 or two months imprisonment. It also lists Wm Henry Foster as the Chinese Protector.


Page 2 contains another Government Notice regarding the erection of a hospital for the sick and destitute Chinese. Undertaker C Morris of Bakery Hill, (three doors from St Paul’s Church) is advertising a Splendid Hearse with ostrich plumes for hire, while Samuel Sloan, (tin and copper smith) has his American Stove Depot on Main Road near the Starbo.

On page three Thomas Slater is calling the attention of his friends and the public regarding the opening of his new store, while in Main Road J.R. Grundy is offering Mild Chinese Tobacco. For those with teeth problems, M Jordain, Surgeon Dentist, is in Lidiard Street opposite the English Church. He offers fillings and complete sets of artificial teeth.

On the back page T. Dean begs to announce that he has moved his Boot and Shoe business opposite The United States Hotel, whereas William T. Jackson is calling on Carpenters and Builders to visit his yards to buy American lumber, shelving, flooring and all building materials.


As regards the authenticity of the newspaper. I bought it to research the activities of the gold miners, including Chinese. I understood it to be the genuine article and have no reason to think otherwise. There is no stamp or postage mark to confirm this, but I don’t think anyone would attempt to forge such a document as a one-off. They would want to do hundreds or possibly thousands and we would eventually find out about it.

It is easy to read, even though some of the grammar tends to be from a different era.
Considering it is one hundred and fifty three years old it is in very good condition with no damage to note, apart from the bottom corner.
 
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My thoughts on it are still in formation. I spent a lot of time thinking on it yesterday while i lounged in the pool drinking beer then later eating prawns and cooking snags on the barby.

I had a great aunt who refused to celebrate the day as it reminded her of the Irish troubles as she called them, which were responsible for her recent ancestors immigrating on one side to avoid political and social violence and on the other being sent here as indentured labour.

I also have a great mate who is my son's god father who spends the day quietly with family remembering their indigenous past. Growing up out bush, I remember in 1977 there was a case going through court nearby where a farmer had been charged for neck chaining indigenous people to trees when they wouldn't work. It's not ancient history for my friend.

Personally, i don't give a flying fuck what day we celebrate our nation on. Ideally, it would be a day which celebrates our many origins. If you're Australian, your heritage is either indigenous, convict, immigrant or refugee. We should be celebrating our diverse cultural richness and the things which make us uniquely Australian.

Things like apathy and alcoholism. Things like bogans and racism.

I'm still drinking on it but really think we should change the date. Make it a floating date even. Who cares? The arrival of the first fleet means nothing to me. It was just a bunch of colonising Brits.
 
Is it Australia Day?

If so, Happy Australia Day, if not, why bump up an old thread and then spam it?
 
Australia day was a long time ago.

But it is worth noting that as a result of Putin's invasion of Ukraine, Australia is massively increasing its spending on its military forces.
 
I thought there was a bit even before this about upgrading submarines and how China didn't much like it.
 
Champakian said:
I thought there was a bit even before this about upgrading submarines and how China didn't much like it.
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Yes. But since then Australia has increased the projected size of its army, navy and air force as well.
 
and Japan can now militarise after the change in Govt policy last year. First up may be those islands that Russia never relinquished in '45

China have never won a war against Vietnam, a country they have invaded three times.
 
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