SweetCherry
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Good luck, Cheffie. I hope it helps you. If nothing else, the hydrotherapy will ease things for you a little.
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Svedish_Chef
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April said:
Needing to get laid isn't necessarily the same thing you know.
Its about 30 pages worth, maybe it will teach me how to it again too. I feel like a biology student.
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chef,
just read over your situation over the last few pages. there are a couple things you could try while medical management is being used: valerian root (availabel at most health food stores) acts as a mild muscle relaxant for some folks who have back problems it may be of value.
glucosamine is another supplement that has been proven to help those persons with joint and or disk problems.
if your condition deteriorates to the point where you need back surgery i would reccomend either a neurosurgeon or an orthapedist that specializes in back surgeries.
it sounds like if you do have surgery it will involve removing the disk and fusion of the vertabrae. this is a common procedure done frequently. it may not be a cure all, but it will be better than living in constant pain.
best wishes
just read over your situation over the last few pages. there are a couple things you could try while medical management is being used: valerian root (availabel at most health food stores) acts as a mild muscle relaxant for some folks who have back problems it may be of value.
glucosamine is another supplement that has been proven to help those persons with joint and or disk problems.
if your condition deteriorates to the point where you need back surgery i would reccomend either a neurosurgeon or an orthapedist that specializes in back surgeries.
it sounds like if you do have surgery it will involve removing the disk and fusion of the vertabrae. this is a common procedure done frequently. it may not be a cure all, but it will be better than living in constant pain.
best wishes
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My husband has spina bifida. ( minor but there is still distortion in his back and it can be painful and difficult for him to bend)
Perhaps self hypnosis, meditation or acupuncture could help with the pain.
Mike (hubby) has been to Orthapedic specialist for back manipulation under general anaesthetic and he has found great relief through this.
I wish you the best and little I can say could help except I wish this wasn't happening to you.
Perhaps self hypnosis, meditation or acupuncture could help with the pain.
Mike (hubby) has been to Orthapedic specialist for back manipulation under general anaesthetic and he has found great relief through this.
I wish you the best and little I can say could help except I wish this wasn't happening to you.
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Update.No
Went today... have 5 excersizes from the physio that I have to do multiple times daily
The occupational therapist isn't going to help me much... I can see that already.
Physio and Hydrotherapy hurt like hell and I have a migraine now.. but hey no great surprise.... I'm still unfit too.
Exersize... we will see we will see....
I dont like hydrotherapy I decided.
I see the rheumatologist on the 14th to review everything.
Went today... have 5 excersizes from the physio that I have to do multiple times daily
The occupational therapist isn't going to help me much... I can see that already.
Physio and Hydrotherapy hurt like hell and I have a migraine now.. but hey no great surprise.... I'm still unfit too.
Exersize... we will see we will see....
I dont like hydrotherapy I decided.
I see the rheumatologist on the 14th to review everything.
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I sincerely hope you and the doctors around find a way for you out of this hell!
My father had a backsurgery, but there are 2 and 1/2 generations between you and him, so I can't add something helpful to the list here.
Except some thoughts loaded with strengh for you.
Take care.
PS: By the way, I'm still in love with your hair...
My father had a backsurgery, but there are 2 and 1/2 generations between you and him, so I can't add something helpful to the list here.
Except some thoughts loaded with strengh for you.
Take care.
PS: By the way, I'm still in love with your hair...
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Ever feel like you'd rather be paralized so you dont have to feel?
Today is one of them
Today is one of them
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Update ppart god knows what
Saw the specialist today and his words "No use flogging a dead horse"
So thats it for all the therapy, it was hurting like fuck anyway so I guess thats better that I'm not doing it.
So I'll just grow old and grey quickly without any help from anyone else.
The specialist said I should go back to the chiro from time to time an dsince it seems that works where nothing else does I guess that will do.
Saw the specialist today and his words "No use flogging a dead horse"
So thats it for all the therapy, it was hurting like fuck anyway so I guess thats better that I'm not doing it.
So I'll just grow old and grey quickly without any help from anyone else.
The specialist said I should go back to the chiro from time to time an dsince it seems that works where nothing else does I guess that will do.
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Went to the chiro today... first time since.
it took awhile but everything went back togehter... i know I've done the right thing stopping the program at least
it took awhile but everything went back togehter... i know I've done the right thing stopping the program at least
SilverVeil
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Get a second opinion or even a third !!!!!
I sat in the hospital with my best friend just last year while she had exactly this taken care of.
The headaches, the back pain, only relief she could get was from RX drugs. It got to the point she was addicted to the drugs she had taken them for so long. Before surgery she was only able to walk if she shuffled. Hurt too bad to pick her feet up to take a step. Spent most days in bed because she could not handle the pressure on her spine standing up.
Now days I can not find her at home, she is always out running around. She walks 2 miles every day, she can not run, but she can walk pain free. She will always have to be careful of how much weight she lifts, but she is pain free for the first time in years. Her regular doctor MISSED the symptoms. SEE A NEUROLOGIST ( did I sp that right ? ) Or another specialist.
This can usually be fixed if taken care of soon enough.
Svedish_Chef said:
I sat in the hospital with my best friend just last year while she had exactly this taken care of.
The headaches, the back pain, only relief she could get was from RX drugs. It got to the point she was addicted to the drugs she had taken them for so long. Before surgery she was only able to walk if she shuffled. Hurt too bad to pick her feet up to take a step. Spent most days in bed because she could not handle the pressure on her spine standing up.
Now days I can not find her at home, she is always out running around. She walks 2 miles every day, she can not run, but she can walk pain free. She will always have to be careful of how much weight she lifts, but she is pain free for the first time in years. Her regular doctor MISSED the symptoms. SEE A NEUROLOGIST ( did I sp that right ? ) Or another specialist.
This can usually be fixed if taken care of soon enough.
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SilverVeil
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Svedish_Chef said:
I sat in the hospital with my best friend just last year while she had exactly this taken care of.
The headaches, the back pain, only relief she could get was from RX drugs. It got to the point she was addicted to the drugs she had taken them for so long. Before surgery she was only able to walk if she shuffled. Hurt too bad to pick her feet up to take a step. Spent most days in bed because she could not handle the pressure on her spine standing up.
Now days I can not find her at home, she is always out running around. She walks 2 miles every day, she can not run, but she can walk pain free. She will always have to be careful of how much weight she lifts, but she is pain free for the first time in years. Her regular doctor MISSED the symptoms. SEE A NEUROLOGIST ( did I sp that right ? ) A specialist.
This can usually be fixed if taken care of soon enough. See a specialist before seeing a chiropractor. Please for your own good.
privy2u
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Been there dude and there again!
I am recovering from my fourth surgery now - not consecutive just a string injuries over the years - the first three were laminectomy's which is a generic term that covers almost anything to do with spinal surgery - this last one was a fusion of S-1/L-4, L-4/L-5 and L-3/L-4 - you said your disc is at bottom - the last vertebrae is S-1 (Sacrum) and the vertabrae above it is the L-5 (Lumbar) so the disc's in-between are refered to by the adjacent vertebrae. Anyway, I'm no doctor but I thought that may halp you down the road as professionals start their explanations -
These are my opinions and just that based on my experience. Every situation is different so for what there worth here they are:
x-ray's aren't trustworthy
MRI's are much better and even they may not show everything
milogram's find minute leakages of spinal fluid which can cause migrains
Chiro can relieve some pain but is only a temporary solution that does nothing about solving the problem!
The longer an injury exists the more extensive the repair.
Best of luck to you!
privy
I am recovering from my fourth surgery now - not consecutive just a string injuries over the years - the first three were laminectomy's which is a generic term that covers almost anything to do with spinal surgery - this last one was a fusion of S-1/L-4, L-4/L-5 and L-3/L-4 - you said your disc is at bottom - the last vertebrae is S-1 (Sacrum) and the vertabrae above it is the L-5 (Lumbar) so the disc's in-between are refered to by the adjacent vertebrae. Anyway, I'm no doctor but I thought that may halp you down the road as professionals start their explanations -
These are my opinions and just that based on my experience. Every situation is different so for what there worth here they are:
x-ray's aren't trustworthy
MRI's are much better and even they may not show everything
milogram's find minute leakages of spinal fluid which can cause migrains
Chiro can relieve some pain but is only a temporary solution that does nothing about solving the problem!
The longer an injury exists the more extensive the repair.
Best of luck to you!
privy
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You have my sympathies - My Dad had really bad back probs for years but lucky for him it just seemed to clear up.
I hope you find the answers you are looking for, untill then know that friends (old and new) are thinkin of ya!
Btw I love the Av and the sig, It just so happens that it is my FAV film of all time!
I hope you find the answers you are looking for, untill then know that friends (old and new) are thinkin of ya!
Btw I love the Av and the sig, It just so happens that it is my FAV film of all time!
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OK, this is a subject that I have a lot of personal experience in. So here's what I can tell you that might be of some help but first some background so you know where I'm coming from.
10 years ago (one week after I got my drivers license) I was involved in a terrible accident. My little sports car vs. a SUV, my car didn't survive. I messed up my lower back, neck and both knees, which required PT for the back and neck and surgery on my knees. I had what seemed to be an endless RX of painkillers and muscle relaxers; I couldn't sleep and could hardly walk from the back pain. I had herniated and bulging disks in my lower back and neck, the PT helped a little but honestly the only relief was that my body after some time began to "get used to the pain". I was told that the only thing that could fix my back was surgery but I was too scared to do so.
10 years later I regret not having surgery then. Not only would the car insurance have covered it then but I wouldn't be as bad as I am now. The discs in my lower back are now disinergrating due to the herniation cutting them off from the flow of fluids. And I also suffer from Siatica (SP?) from the pressure on the siatic nerve. I am currently beginning the process of re-visiting my options and am pretty sure surgery will be in my near future. My Aunt has had two for different area's and is all the better for it.
I have been to both orthopedic and chiropractors. Chiro's can & have help the symptoms but will never be able to fix the problems. A good orthopedic will send you for X-rays & MRI's before anything else. You should definitely see an orthopedic doctor before giving up hope or letting it go as long as I did. Even if you opt out of surgery, you NEED to have MRI's to get a much better grasp on your condition.
If I had taken care of my back problems at 17 instead of now, then maybe it wouldn't take me 5 minutes to go from sitting to standing completely upright.
10 years ago (one week after I got my drivers license) I was involved in a terrible accident. My little sports car vs. a SUV, my car didn't survive. I messed up my lower back, neck and both knees, which required PT for the back and neck and surgery on my knees. I had what seemed to be an endless RX of painkillers and muscle relaxers; I couldn't sleep and could hardly walk from the back pain. I had herniated and bulging disks in my lower back and neck, the PT helped a little but honestly the only relief was that my body after some time began to "get used to the pain". I was told that the only thing that could fix my back was surgery but I was too scared to do so.
10 years later I regret not having surgery then. Not only would the car insurance have covered it then but I wouldn't be as bad as I am now. The discs in my lower back are now disinergrating due to the herniation cutting them off from the flow of fluids. And I also suffer from Siatica (SP?) from the pressure on the siatic nerve. I am currently beginning the process of re-visiting my options and am pretty sure surgery will be in my near future. My Aunt has had two for different area's and is all the better for it.
I have been to both orthopedic and chiropractors. Chiro's can & have help the symptoms but will never be able to fix the problems. A good orthopedic will send you for X-rays & MRI's before anything else. You should definitely see an orthopedic doctor before giving up hope or letting it go as long as I did. Even if you opt out of surgery, you NEED to have MRI's to get a much better grasp on your condition.
If I had taken care of my back problems at 17 instead of now, then maybe it wouldn't take me 5 minutes to go from sitting to standing completely upright.
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Chef,
My husband suffers from severe back problems, although not the same type that you have. He has degenerative disk disease, and also arthritis. He's had back surgery twice, to have disks removed. His condition can not be corrected.
He takes glucosamine and chondroitin, along with various herbs which help to maintain the fluid in the joints. He's been on these for about 2 years, which is the first time in the 30 years that he's had the condition that it has not gotten worse.
As far as sex life is concerned, it IS possible to have a fullfilling sex life even with a severe back condition. It just means making a few "adjustments" for position, etc..
Good luck with your treatments, Chef.
My husband suffers from severe back problems, although not the same type that you have. He has degenerative disk disease, and also arthritis. He's had back surgery twice, to have disks removed. His condition can not be corrected.
He takes glucosamine and chondroitin, along with various herbs which help to maintain the fluid in the joints. He's been on these for about 2 years, which is the first time in the 30 years that he's had the condition that it has not gotten worse.
As far as sex life is concerned, it IS possible to have a fullfilling sex life even with a severe back condition. It just means making a few "adjustments" for position, etc..
Good luck with your treatments, Chef.
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[plain straight truth]
Cheffie is one of the straight-out sweetest people at Lit.
[/plain straight truth]
I think we should all send him a quick pm to that effect, don't you? Overfill his pm box? Make him sweat bullets trying to answer all of us?
Ahem.
No.
I meant, of course, we should send the pm's to simply let him know we're thinking of him and care for his troubles.
Okay, here's a link to his page, the place you can access his pm box. Please do it now while you're thinking about it... i'll go first. http://www.literotica.com/forum/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=773
Cheffie is one of the straight-out sweetest people at Lit.
[/plain straight truth]
I think we should all send him a quick pm to that effect, don't you? Overfill his pm box? Make him sweat bullets trying to answer all of us?
Ahem.
No.
I meant, of course, we should send the pm's to simply let him know we're thinking of him and care for his troubles.
Okay, here's a link to his page, the place you can access his pm box. Please do it now while you're thinking about it... i'll go first. http://www.literotica.com/forum/member.php?action=getinfo&userid=773
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Isabella Thorne
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<wet kisses Chef>
well i hope you know that i always do think of you dear ... even if i am not always online for you ...
i am sorry to hear about your back problems .... i had no idea ... but it sounds to me like you are on the right path <to recovery> .....
good luck darling ...
well i hope you know that i always do think of you dear ... even if i am not always online for you ...
i am sorry to hear about your back problems .... i had no idea ... but it sounds to me like you are on the right path <to recovery> .....
good luck darling ...
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cymbidia said:
Hey, I second that heartily. I spent a few minutes talking with Cheffie on the phone this morning and he's a true sweetheart. Hope you feel better soon, Cheffie. I'm thinking of ya, sweets.
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cymbidia said:
Damn you woman!
If I was a blushing person I would be...
Svedish_Chef
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In partial traction, one ugly mofo of a thing to be doing.
I spent the last two days telling eveyone I was going to hang myself tonight, and so I did.
I spent the last two days telling eveyone I was going to hang myself tonight, and so I did.
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Somebody here said it - everyone is different. I've had three back operations - the first was 20+ years ago and the cure was almost worse than the problem. The last was four years ago, and I was in and out of the hospital in 23 hours and returned to work in a week. Most often it's done with an endoscope (?) - one small hole for a TV cam and another for the surgical instrument. I've been home on short term disability for almost six weeks, and it's only been the last five days that I've been able to sit up and walk, so I know the hell you're going through. Here's a great website I learned a lot from - good luck.
http://www.spineuniverse.com/
http://www.spineuniverse.com/
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Fuck, it gives you an option on what condition... I'm looking and going, one, two, three, four, five... which do I pick first.
Thats funny
Thats funny
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I just read through much of the thread.
I have a rule: If I need medical or legal advice, I go to a doctor or lawyer, not a sex web site. A couple of posts in this thread are nothing less than full of shit.
The best thing you can do is educate yourself on your condition and your options for treatment. When the doc told me my disks were degenerating, it scared the hell out of me. He also said EVERYONE'S disks degenerate as they get older. It's a normal process but isn't problematic for everyone.
I have a rule: If I need medical or legal advice, I go to a doctor or lawyer, not a sex web site. A couple of posts in this thread are nothing less than full of shit.
The best thing you can do is educate yourself on your condition and your options for treatment. When the doc told me my disks were degenerating, it scared the hell out of me. He also said EVERYONE'S disks degenerate as they get older. It's a normal process but isn't problematic for everyone.
