Ben Carson: slaves were immigrants too

[BotanyBoy]

You're using the wrong definition. People are not plants nor are the animals. Hence we have different laws for people, plants, and animals.

Humans are animals, scientific fact.

Well, they can go the fuck back at their earliest convenience!!

Otherwise they are immigrants and they do live a better quality of life than anyone in the countries of their ancestral origin....because the USA is better than anything in Africa.

 

[phrodeau]

Slaves are animals. Ben Carson said so.

 

[Maidboy]

Maybe these "immigrants" were looking forward to the dignity of being counted as 3/5th of a person by their benevolent overlords, and having this new found dignity enshrined in the Constitution. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and all that.

 

[KentuckyDom1971]

Humans are animals, scientific fact.

Well, they can go the fuck back at their earliest convenience!!

Otherwise they are immigrants and they do live a better quality of life than anyone in the countries of their ancestral origin....because the USA is better than anything in Africa.

Oh geez!!!!
Please stop!!!

 

[someoneyouknow]

Ben Carson doesn't even believe what he said:

"The slave narrative and immigrant narrative are two entirely different experiences."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39191445

Then again, like the con artist, Ben has a history of saying things which either aren't truthful or are flat out wrong.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Maybe these "immigrants" were looking forward to the dignity of being counted as 3/5th of a person by their benevolent overlords, and having this new found dignity enshrined in the Constitution. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and all that.

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are not included in the Constitution.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Humans are animals, scientific fact.

But not legal fact.

 

[Boxlicker101]

But not legal fact.

Ben Carson is a scientist, not a lawyer.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Ben Carson is a scientist, not a lawyer.

Ben Carson is a doctor, a neurosurgeon to be exact. He is not a scientist.

A scientist is somebody who constantly questions, generates falsifiable hypotheses, and collects data from well designed experiments—the kind of people who brush their teeth on only one side of their mouth to see whether brushing your teeth has any benefit.

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7454/0.9

Or if you prefer:

A scientist is a person engaging in a systematic activity to acquire knowledge that describes and predicts the natural world. In a more restricted sense, a scientist may refer to an individual who uses the scientific method.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientist

All scientists are doctors through their education but not all doctors are scientists. Just like all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

 

[Maidboy]

Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are not included in the Constitution.

I knew that already, but thank you. I was speaking rhetorically.

 

[RjThoughts]

Ben Carson is a doctor, a neurosurgeon to be exact. He is not a scientist.

A scientist is somebody who constantly questions, generates falsifiable hypotheses, and collects data from well designed experiments—the kind of people who brush their teeth on only one side of their mouth to see whether brushing your teeth has any benefit.

http://www.bmj.com/content/328/7454/0.9

Or if you prefer:

A scientist is a person engaging in a systematic activity to acquire knowledge that describes and predicts the natural world. In a more restricted sense, a scientist may refer to an individual who uses the scientific method.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientist

All scientists are doctors through their education but not all doctors are scientists. Just like all thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs.

Ben might be book smart but he's dumb as fuck!

If a scientist made his claim, it would have been shot down during peer review. What fucking Kool Aid are SCROTUS sycophants drinking?

 

[Maidboy]

Ben Carson is a brilliant neurosurgeon credited with performing the first successful separation of conjoined twins attached at the head. Being familiar with the medical profession, he could well be qualified as Surgeon General or Secretary of Health & Human Services. So naturally Trump appointed him Secretary of Housing & Urban Development.

 

[RjThoughts]

Does Dr Ben think Auschwitz was a summer camp, too?

 

[Wrong Element]

Where Ben Carson went off the rails in his statement was in going on to say that these people forceably uprooted from their communities and packed into the hold of a ship and transported across the ocean were looking ahead to the opportunities they would have in a new land. They were, in fact, trying to survive the night under horrific conditions and bewailing being snatched from their families and sold into slavery. Immigration involves the choice to relocate. They didn't have a choice in the matter.

Carson is always banal when he's talking about anything except brain surgery, but suggesting slaves shared the same American Dream as non-slaves is off-the-charts dumb. They were hoping their descendants "might pursue prosperity and happiness" in America? Pretty sure they were first and foremost just hoping for freedom, in America or wherever.

Anyone know if he's doing any actual work at HUD, or is he just fronting a Mister Rogers tribute band full time?

 

[sr71plt]

Anyone know if he's doing any actual work at HUD, or is he just fronting a Mister Rogers tribute band full time?

Oh, Lord, we don't want Carson to actually try to do any work at HUD.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Carson is always banal when he's talking about anything except brain surgery, but suggesting slaves shared the same American Dream as non-slaves is off-the-charts dumb. They were hoping their descendants "might pursue prosperity and happiness" in America? Pretty sure they were first and foremost just hoping for freedom, in America or wherever.

Anyone know if he's doing any actual work at HUD, or is he just fronting a Mister Rogers tribute band full time?

The BBC has the following article on Carson and things he's said over time.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39191445

I like the last part of their story, something which I hadn't considered:

But Mr Carson continued to stand by his assertion that, as a teenager, he tried to stab a relative, and angrily denounced what he called liberal bias in a CNN investigation that found no corroborating witnesses to the event.

One magazine summed up the oddness of his story, headlining its article: "Ben Carson defends himself against allegations that he never attempted to murder a child."

Say whaaaaaat?

 

[dan_c00000]

If so, I'm out because I have no business posting in a political forum here.

I think that's a good idea too.

Fair enough. You win.
And I'll try to heal from my public forum embarrassment.

Thanks just ask bot how it turned out for him. He rage quit like a champ and his reputation, like his asshole, is beyond repair. I'd hate to see that happen to you.

Anyway, I think there's a very good chance that Carson simply doesn't know what slavery is.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Ben Carson is a brilliant neurosurgeon credited with performing the first successful separation of conjoined twins attached at the head. Being familiar with the medical profession, he could well be qualified as Surgeon General or Secretary of Health & Human Services. So naturally Trump appointed him Secretary of Housing & Urban Development.

"We need a black in this post or it'll look bad. Who's the first one who comes to your mind, sir?" is probably as far as the discussion went.

 

[RjThoughts]

So sayeth Samuel L.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/93d36de5390b609e546cd8076d3b26bf/tumblr_omgtqsbfQX1r5jqq2o1_540.png

 

[IrezumiKiss]

So sayeth Samuel L.

https://68.media.tumblr.com/93d36de5390b609e546cd8076d3b26bf/tumblr_omgtqsbfQX1r5jqq2o1_540.png

Ha ha ha! Beat me to it.

https://img42.com/nE7MN+

But B.Car's ass has been cancelled since way back, this bullshit coming out of his mouth is just putting a cherry on top of it all.

https://img42.com/s7Rox+

 

[EternalFantasies]

What Carson said is kosher. Some people need to get over themselves. its been too long now.

I've posted... err.. i mean, my previous Soul, God rest it, EFantasy, said, "if you wanna end racism, abolish black history month for starters.

You want to be seen differently? see yourself differently first.

 

[sr71plt]

What Carson said was stupid and tone deaf. What happened to the slaves brought into the country wasn't immigration, it was kidnapping.

Saying it was "kosher" is just as stupid and tone deaf.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

What Carson said is kosher. Some people need to get over themselves. its been too long now.

I've posted... err.. i mean, my previous Soul, God rest it, EFantasy, said, "if you wanna end racism, abolish black history month for starters.

You want to be seen differently? see yourself differently first.

Why do you think that there is a black history month?

 

[KingOrfeo]

What Carson said is kosher.

African slaves are not cloven-hoofed cud-chewers.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

if you wanna end racism, abolish black history month for starters.

No, if you want to end racism, you stop being racist and dismantle the system that creates, enables and sustains racism.

Your world ain't gonna end because your privilege can't play pretend Mexican on Cinco de Mayo with sombreros and fake mustaches like you used to. Your cruise control through life is gonna be just fine, trust me.