Bite me

as history, I don't always agree with Senna, nor bflagsst...etc.
and I've said this before, if you take just 10% of what either of them say, consider it, ponder it, you will be a better writer. The same applies across the board to anyone offering an opinion of poetry (either yours or in general). They are an asshat.
And too many of them are missing. Too many of those that admit their grasp of poetry is incomplete. Too many that don't know the pure and or noble way, there are no pure or noble ways, there is no complete. There can be no consensus.

That said, if three valid critics say something doesn't work, and you don't have an answer...wtf are you here for?

Gross dismissal signifies strongly a waste of time. How many are asshats were crowded out, by game playing, alt action, and morons?

But people being people don't often realize what side of their bread the butter is on, only realizing it when they discover it was the side that fell on the floor.

I know it's not what you wrote, but this is what registers in my brain.
 
I know it's not what you wrote, but this is what registers in my brain.
I suppose they could be both. However there is a difference between total asshats, and some that are assets on an occasional basis. The asshat can't take it off.
 
as history, I don't always agree with Senna, nor bflagsst...etc.
and I've said this before, if you take just 10% of what either of them say, consider it, ponder it, you will be a better writer. The same applies across the board to anyone offering an opinion of poetry (either yours or in general). They are an asset.
And too many of them are missing. Too many of those that admit their grasp of poetry is incomplete. Too many that don't know the pure and or noble way, there are no pure or noble ways, there is no complete. There can be no consensus.


That said, if three valid critics say something doesn't work, and you don't have an answer...wtf are you here for?

Gross dismissal signifies strongly a waste of time. How many are assets were crowded out, by game playing, alt action, and morons?

But people being people don't often realize what side of their bread the butter is on, only realizing it when they discover it was the side that fell on the floor.
reprise, and directly said
Desejo, Tess, Angeline, etc. Assets, that if they wear the asshat, don't wear it often. Where are these people? These are the type of people that are missing, good writers, thought behind criticism without an agenda.
This is what powers the place.
sheesh
 
says the self-proclaimed exterminator
how long have you been here?
the only thing I proclaim is I am about right half the time, which is about twice as good as those that think they are right all of the time.
I think that has may have something to do with the complexity of the matter. It helps to have more than one view articulated.
exterminator? self-proclaimed? shit, buddy, I fail at that, don't I?
I got your PM.
 
I ain't your buddy, son. You do have a little bit of game. That doesn't mean you are king of the room.
I am not queen, but I tried to help out for a few years. I know every breath of those years were empty to you because I hurt the feelings of one you love. It wasn't intentional. My enjambment really isn't cause for anyone to get all up in it.
 
I ain't your buddy, son. You do have a little bit of game. That doesn't mean you are king of the room.
I am not queen, but I tried to help out for a few years. I know every breath of those years were empty to you because I hurt the feelings of one you love. It wasn't intentional. My enjambment really isn't cause for anyone to get all up in it.
is there a crown involved? outside of the fact you aren't a newb (and thank you for the confirmation)
buddy was a figure of speech, but I think you have me confused with some one else.
So let us talk games, you are not new, you are an alt referring to a mystery, which is a bit of a game so to speak...so my game is too figure out what alt this alt cluster fits in?
I don't know whether to be intrigued or bored. Let's pick bored. Have fun with the altoons.
This place died awhile ago, killed by alt clusters, not saying you had a part in it, because I don't know who you belong to.
Pick another king, playskool. Or queen.
Long live playcatch!!!! Ruler of lit poems!

My breath...
is full of laughter
Thank you, son.
 
I've never been ruler. Just playful. Looking for enlightenment. I was cherries-on-snow, sweetjain, pandoraglitters. I tried to help people when I could manage it and listened a lot. Sometimes to you. But the quality of writing is not what matters here. It is the quality of ass kissing.
 
I've never been ruler. Just playful. Looking for enlightenment. I was cherries-on-snow, sweetjain, pandoraglitters. I tried to help people when I could manage it and listened a lot. Sometimes to you. But the quality of writing is not what matters here. It is the quality of ass kissing.

I'm wondering who's asset should be lavished with kisses and what would be the payoff?
 
Apparently one could get an E if one was really good at it. An H for congeniality.
 
I've only gotten two E's so far; both after pissing off lots of people here.
 
I've never been ruler. Just playful. Looking for enlightenment. I was cherries-on-snow, sweetjain, pandoraglitters. I tried to help people when I could manage it and listened a lot. Sometimes to you. But the quality of writing is not what matters here. It is the quality of ass kissing.
did you point me in the direction of an ass that should have been kissed? let me think, yeh. helped considerably, telling me I was full of shit.

Apparently one could get an E if one was really good at it. An H for congeniality.
and thank you for that explanation, i was really boggled as to what happened when my Hs disappeared.

Here is the deal, buddy (oozing with sarcasm), I once wrote, you may not have liked it, but what I wrote may have been interesting, not popular as you said, as the material most often has nothing human moving in it.

And here is the deal, buddy (oozing with sarcasm), whether or not you listened matters not to me, but I probably introduced more information, right babe, than just about anybody else here, also offered more critiques than most. I make a point, it can be countered and vice versa, but I guess your heros may have been operating with either outdated or incomplete information.

Case in point - standard literary tactic, the power of three, some dubious asshole wants to make the issue of pseudoscience. I post links. Asshole wants to make dubious diagnosis of dementia, I can do the same, eh? Apparently that upsets folks, if I do it.

I am good at what I do, and this bullshit, and it is bullshit, makes me inclined not to do it any further. Would this make you happy to return to the stasis of yesteryear when the hierarchy and was more clearly defined in your mind? Or the thrilling days that preceded it with 1,2,3 and fans?

I think you have me confused with some one else. Go a little further up this thread, buddy (oozing with sarcasm), I get hit with 70 fivers, who points it out, who makes an issue of it?

Yeh, buddy (oozing with sarcasm), I get a little paranoid with your playfulness, telling me I'm full of shit and telling me a knock-off joke is the best thing I've ever wrote. Muthafucker! After dealing with cliques, alt clusters and asshole attacks.

But thank you for this rare moment of honesty, buddy (oozing with sarcasm), maybe something good will come of it. I doubt it. Just another alt cluster circle jerk with no substantive information. "This is a fine piece of writing" said one alt to another.
 
the quality of writing is not what matters here. It is the quality of ass kissing.
i disagree

things have changed, a lot, in the past few years. the quality is what most of us are interested in. not all, but most. and, when it's given, the feedback here is of more value than on any other site i've visted or been a part of. unfortunately, there's not enough; i'm as much to blame for not finding the time as the next person, but sometimes this place is rockin', other times it's a ghost-town. seems to me that the people who continue to return and contribute stuff of worth are those with the most to offer: people get bored and wander off to other sites, but over time the lure of lit draws them back because they can find here what is absent in all those other places. and when there's enough of those people here, posting, discussing, teasing, then this place is AWESOME!
 
I'm wondering who's asset should be lavished with kisses and what would be the payoff?
asset is the opposite of liability
ass is the opposite of head unless inserted (a yoga thing, apparently)
one was a joke
two was a did you get it
three is a bore
congrat's on the E. mag. almost left a comment. you might not have liked it, and PC would have been pissed because of the five.
because whatever else, I can't win.

As for E's, I've had three, all in the first year, apparently my writing has declined. Yea. me. I have become a liability. (an E is an opinion, a Fave is an opinion, in the absence of any specific mention rather valueless)
and speaking of rather valueless...
LONG LIVE THE ANON
new king and avenger, same as the old king and avenger
 
i disagree

things have changed, a lot, in the past few years. the quality is what most of us are interested in. not all, but most. and, when it's given, the feedback here is of more value than on any other site i've visted or been a part of. unfortunately, there's not enough; i'm as much to blame for not finding the time as the next person, but sometimes this place is rockin', other times it's a ghost-town. seems to me that the people who continue to return and contribute stuff of worth are those with the most to offer: people get bored and wander off to other sites, but over time the lure of lit draws them back because they can find here what is absent in all those other places. and when there's enough of those people here, posting, discussing, teasing, then this place is AWESOME!
i disagree, was, as said, critical mass can not be sustained because of bullshit games, altoons, and general laziness.

so there go the Hs for lack of congeniality, eh, buddies?

Muthafucka. Maybe, I'll leave a comment on Senna's poem, he won't see it, I love the whole irony of the place.
 
The popularity contest around here begins when you step outside the PFD.

Inside here, there's no top dawg, just people willing to deal and receive honest criticism.

We're definately not here for the exposure. When it comes to the erotic poems, I've gotten more reads elsewhere in 24 hours than I get here in 6 months. Lit is a place to get your stories out to the masses and a place to get your poetry run through a meatgrinder.
 
twelve said:
congrat's on the E. mag. almost left a comment. you might not have liked it, and PC would have been pissed because of the five.
because whatever else, I can't win.

I'm a big boy. Don't be shy.

PC .......?

Pandora Clitters?
 
reprise, and directly said
Desejo, Tess, Angeline, etc. Assets, that if they wear the asshat, don't wear it often. Where are these people? These are the type of people that are missing, good writers, thought behind criticism without an agenda.
This is what powers the place.
sheesh
reprise again, substitute the simple word good for asset, avoiding the joke.
These are the type of people that are missing, good writers, thought behind criticism without an agenda.
Fortunately, you are still around, butters. A few others. How has been NPR lately, since Mr. Community Service walked off the job, playcatchup?

without an agenda
without an agenda
bye
 
Does any of this really matter in the grand scheme of things? Who gives a shit about who has an alt for everyday of the week or every personality change? I can't say as it appears to me personally but who gives a shit?

Why is it such a big deal? Maybe I should be a more capable critic, and better poet for it to matter? If the poetry is right the rest shouldn't matter.
 
I'm a big boy. Don't be shy.

PC .......?

Pandora Clitters?

See, here's the thing. I had no agenda. I was just here to write. Why, then, am I getting such hostility?

8 and a half years ago I got flirted with by the wrong guy and pissed off someone by flirting back. That's all. I never harmed anyone. I don't deserve your hostility. I never did.
 
I've only gotten two E's so far; both after pissing off lots of people here.

I don't really care about the Es or the Hs. I just want to write without being called nasty names for coming to write poems. That would be nice.
 
I've never been ruler. Just playful. Looking for enlightenment. I was cherries-on-snow, sweetjain, pandoraglitters. I tried to help people when I could manage it and listened a lot. Sometimes to you. But the quality of writing is not what matters here. It is the quality of ass kissing.
..
Really, Dora? your drawing acct at the bar is way full
and we've lost Guido; just so you know
 
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