Black Radical Answers The Call, Kills Two NYC Policemen

[Que]

Which raises the very serious question of how do so many get stolen. Mine are in a safe, if you can open the safe or steal the whole damn safe then you fucking earned it. If I'm home when you try. . .well same thing but you also run the risk I might shoot you.

In addition not every house even has guns, these aren't televisions or X-Boxes where you can simply make an educated guess without knowing someone or hell casually walk up to the house, knock on the door and when they don't answer peer in the windows knock on a few of them and when someone asks what are you doing just make up a story about your friend and he's supposed to be here. Worst case scenario they call the cops on you and you leave and you haven't commited a crime yet even if you do stick around.

It also leads to the imponderable, how could the genie ever go back in the bottle. There is about a gun for every man, woman and child in America, so there is more than enough to have one per household.

You cannot survey it because gun owners do not like anyone gov't or not knowing that, 1)They are armed and 2)They have something worth stealing.

People have guns for self defense and need them accessible. People forget and leave the stove on, most people don't think to lock up their guns unless they have a lot of them and it starts looking like a pile of cash to remind them. People leave spare change and the odd twenty lying around. They tend to lock up straps of 100's. Same thing with a dime bag, vs a kilo.

There are far more than 500,000 burglaries a year. Guns are just the most easily fenced item there is. Everyone knows someone that probably either wants it, or knows someone that does.

Guns hold their value. Buddy of mine bought a new 9mm like 6 months ago. traded it back to the dealer and they only knocked off like $40 on the return. Stolen guns are worth 50 cents on the dollar, but most other burglary items like electronics, games, and jewelry (beyond melt down of course) are 10 cents on the dollar.

I don't know about burglary casing specifics but some things are kind of obvious. If the pickup in the drive has sticker of elk-horns he has a rifle. It might be in a safe, but the handgun is probably in the glovebox or under the seat. I suspect a lot of gun thefts are from cars and pick-me-up trucks.

In the house it is in the nightstand, under the mattress, or on the top shelf of the closet. Maybe top of the refrigerator.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

He s ALREADY forbidden to buy a gun.

It bothers me that the gun used to kill two cops was only traceable to 1996.

Does it bother you? (Clue: this is a yes or no question)

 

[Que]

It bothers me that the gun used to kill two cops was only traceable to 1996.

Does it bother you? (Clue: this is a yes or no question)

No.

Does it bother you that drugs found in raids are not traceble to the plant or lab they came from?

I am surprised that it was as "seasoned" as it was. He probably had it as his personal protective weapon for years. As opposed to the sort of disposable weapon he would have picked up for the crime if he had any intention of getting away with it.

No one from the cousin that last reported having it to this guy are going to admit that they had a hand on it.

There are millions of untraceable guns out there. Prisoners make guns in their jail cells and zip guns do not have serial numbers.

I could make an untraceable AR15 if I wanted to, but why go through the hassle of arguing with the BATF if some nosy cop gets to looking for non-existant serial numbers? If people like Finstein did not have a stated end game of bans and confiscation you might see the gun-owning community more interested in cradle-to-grave registration.

Even with that, though, this gun would not be in an such registry. The fact that it has been in circulation for years without coming into contact with law enforcement tells you something. There are vast pools of guns out there. That concerns me, but only to the point that I am aware that most people that might wish to do me harm have access to them, and I should be prepared for that.

 

[Boxlicker101]

You and miles started off with the assumption that he shot the cops with a stolen gun, and there is no evidence to support that. His skin color is not evidence.

James Eagan Holmes bought his weapons from Gander Mountain. Nobody assumed his guns were stolen. Nidal Malik Hasan and Ivan Lopez's guns were from Guns Galore. Nobody assumed their guns were stolen.

Once I found out about his long criminal record, I made that assumption. I don't believe I made any mention of it, though, except maybe to say that stolen guns cannot be traced.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Except when trying to create a narrative for the Administrations (then) planned gun control initiatives (since dropped) the Feds very actively police FFL holders.

They are very much enforced and FFL holders report to the Feds if they even suspect it is a strawman purchase. Gun nuts do not like the idea of more criminals with guns. No one is so desperate to make the $50 to $100 profit selling a gun that they want to do federal time for it. Criminals, on the other hand are already risking worse federal tme on drug charges. A weapons charge is minor to them.

On Christmas day, I could get you connected with any firearm you could imagine legally, but likely you can't take it today. It would take me a drive of 150 miles and about three phone calls to get you an illegal one for 1/2 price. Why do I not purchase myself a 1/2 price gun? Because I have no interest in being caught with an illegal, undoubtedly stolen gun.

There is a minor gray market. I could go today, find a private party seller, bullshit with him and maybe he barely asks my name, doesn't ask for my drivers license to jot down who he sold it to, since he knows it is registered to him. I pay close to retail price for a used gun, that I can now sell on the street for 1/2 price. No one that cannot legally own a gun cares to pay more for a not stolen gun.

It wasn't all that long ago that Holder's DOJ was encouraging straw man purchases of guns.

 

[phrodeau]

I'm a little worried how comfortably query fits inside the head of the cop killer.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

No.

That was all I needed to know.

 

[Que]

That was all I needed to know.

So give me the courtesy of answering my question: Does it bother you that we do not know the source of other illicit materials used by criminals. Yes or no?

 

[Busybody]

It bothers me that the gun used to kill two cops was only traceable to 1996.

Does it bother you? (Clue: this is a yes or no question)

Originally Posted by BoyNextDoor

If you want to keep guns out of the hands of outlaws I'd expect that you would support law enforcement in tracing guns used in crimes and preventing criminals and the mentally ill from buying them.



I AXED YOU

explain Chicago

Its ok

#I'll wait


Does it BOTHER you that I axed a legit question based on your statement and you cant respond?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Originally Posted by BoyNextDoor

If you want to keep guns out of the hands of outlaws I'd expect that you would support law enforcement in tracing guns used in crimes and preventing criminals and the mentally ill from buying them.



I AXED YOU

explain Chicago

Its ok

#I'll wait


Does it BOTHER you that I axed a legit question based on your statement and you cant respond?

Explain Chicago?

 

[BoyNextDoor]

So give me the courtesy of answering my question: Does it bother you that we do not know the source of other illicit materials used by criminals. Yes or no?

What other illicit materials?

 

[Busybody]

Explain Chicago?

they have one of the most stringent gun control laws in the nation...yet look at all the GUN VIOLENCE

how to explain that?

background checks etc etc....don't really work....DO THEY?

 

[Busybody]

they have one of the most stringent gun control laws in the nation...yet look at all the GUN VIOLENCE

how to explain that?

background checks etc etc....don't really work....DO THEY?

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin...-ron-johnson-links-strict-gun-control-laws-h/

 

[BoyNextDoor]

they have one of the most stringent gun control laws in the nation...yet look at all the GUN VIOLENCE

how to explain that?

background checks etc etc....don't really work....DO THEY?

You already know the answer to that. 57 percent of guns recovered and traced to crimes originate from just 1.2 percent of the nation’s gun dealers. And they are in states like Georgia, where the laws are lax, not Illinois where they are more strict

So what is your real point?

 

[Busybody]

You already know the answer to that. 57 percent of guns recovered and traced to crimes originate from just 1.2 percent of the nation’s gun dealers. And they are in states like Georgia, where the laws are lax, not Illinois where they are more strict

So what is your real point?

so even assuming you are correct

PERPS in Chicago go to GA to buy gunz they use in Chicago?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

so even assuming you are correct

PERPS in Chicago go to GA to buy gunz they use in Chicago?

Maybe, but likely they're getting them from elsewhere in Cook County, Illinois, and Indiana.

The problem isn't Chicago's laws. It's everyone else's.

 

[Busybody]

Maybe, but likely they're getting them from elsewhere in Cook County, Illinois, and Indiana.

The problem isn't Chicago's laws. It's everyone else's.

http://www.political-humor.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/im-sorry-that-i-offended-you-when-i-called-you-stupid.jpg

 

[Que]

Maybe, but likely they're getting them from elsewhere in Cook County, Illinois, and Indiana.

The problem isn't Chicago's laws. It's everyone else's.

Yeah. That was going to be the adminstration's line about Mexico until a whistleblower spoke up. Tell us. Is the availibility of marijuana in Chicago a failure of law to dictate behavior, or is it the fault of the laws and enforcement elsewhere?

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The same guy that can get you weed, pills,meth, heroin, meth, or crack with a couple hours notice can get you a gun. There are millions of unregistered, untraceable to the buyer or seller guns. They don't take a road trip to Georgia to get them.

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Saying that the majority of guns are traceble to the larget dealets is as helpful as saying most stolen televisions can be traced by serial number to having been sold at walmart. Criminals do not pay full retail for guns they intend to dispose of. No one earns a profit buying guns at full retail, filling out the fedear forms with their name on it and selling them for 1/2 price. Fast and furious involved high quality rifles for a reason. Rifles are harder to come by in the black market. They are moer likely to be locked in a gun safe. Stolen handguns are ridiculously plentiful.

 

[Sean Renaud]

-snip-
The same guy that can get you weed, pills,meth, heroin, meth, or crack with a couple hours notice can get you a gun. There are millions of unregistered, untraceable to the buyer or seller guns. They don't take a road trip to Georgia to get them.
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That might be true for some of those drugs but not nearly all especially not as Weed becomes increasingly legal. I don't know anybody who would have anyway of getting my an untraceable gun, I don't know anybody who can't get me weed. Maybe some who won't but not who can't. Pills is undefined. Meth you can make, I'm not certain crack. So probably your heroin dealer has those connections if you have one.

Guns (that people use) are not something you can forge in your backyard these days.

 

[Busybody]

Loathsome Sharpton: Cops Speaking Out Over NYPD Murders Are “Cheap Demagogues”


rachel-al

Says the man demagoguing for the last 30 years…

Via JWF:


The most vile, sleazy demagogue on the planet is projecting again.

Sharpton said his own group isn’t going to march before the funerals.

But, he added, they’re not putting their weekly Saturday civil-rights gathering on hold.

“We’ve said at the National Action Network that [what] we’ve scheduled, we’re going to continue to do,” he said at his group’s annual Christmas meal service.

Sharpton also took an apparent swipe at the police unions, de Blasio and other leaders who have raged against him over what they perceive as his stoking of anti-cop sentiment.

“Cheap demagogues,” he called those “who are trying to score cheap points off the bodies of these police.”

You can’t make this stuff up.

 

[Busybody]

she should be JAILED for ATTEMPTED MURDER

One Of Eric Garner’s Daughters Posts Address Of Cop Present At His Death, As Well As Addresses Of His Family….Update: Tweet Shows She Was Deliberately Trying To ‘Dox’ Him, Set Anonymous On Him


GARNER TWITTER

Waving the red flag to those who might want to attack this officer. But she didn’t post the address of the black female sergeant who was in charge of the arrest. Or the other black officer actually involved in the arrest.

Via NY Post:


One of Eric Garner’s daughters marked Christmas Day by spreading personal information about an NYPD cop who was present during the chokehold death of her father — outraging officers still reeling from last weekend’s execution-style slayings of two policemen in Brooklyn.

Erica Garner tweeted that cop Justin D’Amico was “another officer that helped killed [sic] my dad,” and directed her 5,000-plus Twitter followers to a Web page that lists *addresses for D’Amico and five possible relatives.

The information was viewed about 500 times before Garner’s stunning tweet was deleted following inquiries by The Post.

Keep reading…

Update:
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@DoxxTheWorld is an Anonymous account, profile which says: “I walk in…fuck shit up…then I leave”.

This means she essentially was siccing Anonymous on the officer as well.

 

[Busybody]

911 operators made ‘anti-police’ remarks, said cops ‘deserved it,’ causing quarrel with FDNY dispatchers as 2 NYPD cops were dying



Only under “Red Bill” de Blasio would this dispatcher still have his job. He/she should be fired if not prosecuted for dereliction of duty, endangering the life of a cop, violation of the public trust

 

[Que]

That might be true for some of those drugs but not nearly all especially not as Weed becomes increasingly legal. I don't know anybody who would have anyway of getting my an untraceable gun, I don't know anybody who can't get me weed. Maybe some who won't but not who can't. Pills is undefined. Meth you can make, I'm not certain crack. So probably your heroin dealer has those connections if you have one.

Guns (that people use) are not something you can forge in your backyard these days.

No need to forge guns although I could make a zip gun in my backyard, as I have said and it seems to be unclear to some, guns are STOLEN, and therefore readily in abundant supply.

For the sake of discussion in an anti-gun nut utopia, lets say we have 10 years of the most rigid registration scheme you can think of and then, like Australia, you use that registration scheme to confiscate each and every firearm duly registered by all of the most law abiding citizens in the realm.

What does that do about the millions of guns that were stolen during the rigorous registration period? What about the millions of guns that were not registered because to do so would mean the registrant would be admitted to having a gun they are proscribed by law from having? What about the weapons brought in protecting drug shipments from Mexico? What about the guns stolen in all the years prior to that?

 

[Busybody]

THE BIG BLACK RAT THAT KILLS WHITE PEOPLE










Paige Stalker might be alive today had she learned about R.A.T. - Routine Activity Theory.



But she is dead and two of her friends are critically wounded, the latest poster children for R.A.T.: White people in black neighborhoods should expect to be the victims of racial violence.



Paige was one of five teenagers from an upscale neighborhood in nearby Grosse Point who were on their way to the movies three days before Christmas when they decided to pull over and smoke marijuana in Detroit.



While they were getting a high, a black man with a high-powered rifle approached their car and fired 30 rounds into it, killing Paige.



Paige and her friends learned the hard way what in 2012 became well known in a Chicago courtroom. The case revolved around a white woman who was released from jail into a black neighborhood. Hours later, she was thrown out of the seventh-story window of a local housing project.



Her parents sued the city of Chicago, saying the city should have known their white daughter would be a victim of violence in that black neighborhood.



That was the testimony of Harvard sociology professor Robert Sampson and what the judge said when he described R.A.T. The woman “was a white female in a predominantly black, poor neighborhood (and) she had a much higher risk of predatory victimization.”



The judge said the situation was so transparently dangerous that Chicago police “might as well have released her into the lions’ den at the Brookfield Zoo.”



The city’s lawyers claimed the professor was guilty of racial profiling and demanded the judge throw out his testimony. Judge Frank Easterbrook scorned that argument and approved a judgment against the city for $22.5 million.



While Paige and her friends were not aware of R.A.T., more and more teachers from around the country are required to teach its counterpart, Critical Race Theory: White racism is everywhere. White racism is permanent. White racism explains everything.



In San Francisco during one such training session, a teacher said she and her colleagues were required to close their eyes and feel shame because their ancestors owned slaves.



“We were told to put our heads down on the table, like little kids being punished,” the teacher said. “We were actually in a classroom, seated at kids' desks while they told us how we should be ashamed for the racism that created slavery and persists today.”



R.A.T. is not nearly as popular in high schools. But Assistant Police Chief Steve Dolunt of Detroit seems to know it pretty well, even if he does not call it that. Dolunt and his investigators are still trying to figure out how this crime happened. But this much he does know: Those upper-class rich kids did not have any business in that black neighborhood.



"The kids in Grosse Pointe -- they think it can't happen to them," Dolunt told the Detroit Free Press. ”People shouldn't blame the people in Detroit; your kids are buying drugs there.”

Colin Flaherty is an award winning reporter and author of the best selling book, White Girl Bleed a Lot: The return of racial violence to America and how the media ignore it. You can find many of the videos on racial violence mentioned in this article on his YouTube channel.

 

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