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COLORED PEOPLE?????????????????? Doesn't that make YOU A RACIST?
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I'm speaking layman's terms because there's a lot of layman around here. "
No you weren't
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YOU called ME racist when I used the term colored "people"
so what you are saying is that its ok for you to say NIGGER
but its not ok for me to say NIGGER
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I'd like to see a line of police officers turn their backs on the cop who killed Eric Gardner with an illegal chokehold. Instead, like lemmings that they are, they're willing to be painted with the same brush as Pantaleo rather than call him what he really is, a murderer undeserving of the public's trust.
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Not total, his time isn't up yet. He doesn't suit what he says he planned to do but I will always love and respect him. But I'm sure our criticisms of him while they may sound and look alike, the reasoning is strongly not the same. And thank God for that.
You judge and criticize him out of pure hatred.
I critique him out of concern for how he truly represents me as a young woman of color not born from money.
You have no reason to be concerned for what I am. Yet you make the most noise about him.
And I said he is not ordinary because he was elected for extraordinary reasons. He was elected to improve the lives of the people who gave him the most votes. No other president was elected to care in particular for people of color, women or youth, as a whole. He is fucking amazing that he represents that. But he is not amazing at representing us.
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you sir....are either a fool...delusional or retarded
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Here's another death
This is similar to the Mike Brown case http://news.yahoo.com/ex-officer-not-charged-fatal-milwaukee-shooting-144211939.html
In both cases, the cop acted in self defense and acted as almost anybody else would have done under the same circumstances. Cops are not expected to let themselves be killed or badly beaten just because the assailant happens to be black or, in this case, because he happens to be crazy.
The Garner case may be another matter.
This is similar to the Mike Brown case http://news.yahoo.com/ex-officer-not-charged-fatal-milwaukee-shooting-144211939.html
In both cases, the cop acted in self defense and acted as almost anybody else would have done under the same circumstances. Cops are not expected to let themselves be killed or badly beaten just because the assailant happens to be black or, in this case, because he happens to be crazy.
The Garner case may be another matter.
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Specify on what basis you make this statement.
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Just askin'.
Hey, start your threads here as well, and I will post in them. I only check the GB now if I'm bored, or if nothing is going on here.
So much for that so-called "loss of freedom" you were baby-wailing about.
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The Bottom Line: No One Is Stoking an Anti-Police Movement. We Just Want Better Policing.
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Actually, at least some people are. Have you heard the chants: "What do we want?" and the response: "Dead cops!"
ETA: Here is more of Sharpton and his anti-police rhetoric and activities:http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...thousands-in-saturday-march-on-washington-dc/
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Actually, at some people are. Have you heard the chants: "What do we want?" and the response: "Dead cops!"
Those people have always existed, yet, we haven't regressed back to the Dark Ages.
So, the question is, why do you put such stock in them now? A convenient ax to grind? Or, can you really not see the forest for the trees?
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I am merely refuting the post preceding mine.
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Imagine you're flying in one of the new giant planes
All the passengers are separated by wealth, lets say they have First class, commercial, and general mostly white with a splattering of tan and dark faces. Lower deck discounted, and steerage are where most of the 'colored people' are.
The plane is streaking along at five hundred miles an hour at thirty five thousand feet.
Somewhere over the cayman islands the wealthy in first class bail out, Over china the commercial passengers bail out taking the last extra parachutes, leaving only enough for the crew.
The navigator Rumsfeld, leads us toward Iraq where he and crewmate Cheney manage to destroy three of the four working engines over Iraq through mismanagement and incompetence. They bail out.
The pilot Capt Bush calls Obama. Obama walks into the cockpit and Bush explains that he has talked to the big shots and they say that if he dumps all the people's money out over the banking and insurance country, that the plane will be Okay.
He gives Obama the control as the plane slips into an almost vertical dive, tells him to take over for a bit. Bush leaves the cockpit, throws the peoples money to the banks and insurance companies, and bails out the door.
Obama is in a deadly dive, he has never flown a plane this big before and he is out of gas. He pulls back with all his strength on the wheel and at the last minute the plane starts to respond and starts to level out.
But while Obama was shitting apple seeds fighting to stop the crash dive the general section of passengers find out that there is a black man at the controls. "Hell that Niggar ain't been flying five minutes and he already damn near crashed the plane." They decide to work against him until they can find a nice white man to fly the plane.
Obama knows that he needs to deploy the big drag chute to bring the plane down in a level position. He needs to get through the general section of passenger seats to get to the big chute. The general section won't let him pass.
He is forced to run back through the lower deck and steerage to get to the smaller drag chute that most likely won't be enough but it is all he has got , so he deploys it. Its touch and go, hard to tell if the plane is going to crash or not and then alarms start to sound.
The loud irritating noise seemed to be coming from a handset hanging on the wall.
Obama reaches his handout, trembling as he answers the phone. And its Kitty wanting, no DEMANDING to know why the service in steerage ain't as good as the service in commercial.
Obama explains that he is doing the best he can and hangs up.
Kitty turns to her friend and says,"I expected more from a black man."
Sometimes Kitty any landing you walk away from is a good one. Obama is doing alright considering what he is having to fight against.
All the passengers are separated by wealth, lets say they have First class, commercial, and general mostly white with a splattering of tan and dark faces. Lower deck discounted, and steerage are where most of the 'colored people' are.
The plane is streaking along at five hundred miles an hour at thirty five thousand feet.
Somewhere over the cayman islands the wealthy in first class bail out, Over china the commercial passengers bail out taking the last extra parachutes, leaving only enough for the crew.
The navigator Rumsfeld, leads us toward Iraq where he and crewmate Cheney manage to destroy three of the four working engines over Iraq through mismanagement and incompetence. They bail out.
The pilot Capt Bush calls Obama. Obama walks into the cockpit and Bush explains that he has talked to the big shots and they say that if he dumps all the people's money out over the banking and insurance country, that the plane will be Okay.
He gives Obama the control as the plane slips into an almost vertical dive, tells him to take over for a bit. Bush leaves the cockpit, throws the peoples money to the banks and insurance companies, and bails out the door.
Obama is in a deadly dive, he has never flown a plane this big before and he is out of gas. He pulls back with all his strength on the wheel and at the last minute the plane starts to respond and starts to level out.
But while Obama was shitting apple seeds fighting to stop the crash dive the general section of passengers find out that there is a black man at the controls. "Hell that Niggar ain't been flying five minutes and he already damn near crashed the plane." They decide to work against him until they can find a nice white man to fly the plane.
Obama knows that he needs to deploy the big drag chute to bring the plane down in a level position. He needs to get through the general section of passenger seats to get to the big chute. The general section won't let him pass.
He is forced to run back through the lower deck and steerage to get to the smaller drag chute that most likely won't be enough but it is all he has got , so he deploys it. Its touch and go, hard to tell if the plane is going to crash or not and then alarms start to sound.
The loud irritating noise seemed to be coming from a handset hanging on the wall.
Obama reaches his handout, trembling as he answers the phone. And its Kitty wanting, no DEMANDING to know why the service in steerage ain't as good as the service in commercial.
Obama explains that he is doing the best he can and hangs up.
Kitty turns to her friend and says,"I expected more from a black man."
Sometimes Kitty any landing you walk away from is a good one. Obama is doing alright considering what he is having to fight against.
From Salon:
Monday, Dec 22, 2014 12:45 PM EST
The right politicizes murders: How it exploited tragedy, told de Blasio how to raise his son
Blaming protests for the murder of two police officers is wrong. Criticizing the mayor's advice to his son is worse
Joan Walsh
The heartbreaking murder of two New York police officers Saturday night, by a mentally ill Georgia man who also shot his ex-girlfriend, saddens all decent people. But it’s the worst in demagoguery to blame the peaceful movement against police brutality that’s emerged nationwide, in the wake of multiple killings of unarmed black men, for the tragedy.
It shouldn’t be surprising that right-wing police defenders would politicize an outrage like this. Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association chief Pat Lynch continues to shame himself, by claiming Mayor Bill de Blasio has “blood on his hands” for expressing sadness at the killing of Eric Garner by police in Staten Island. What I find shocking is that de Blasio’s police critics are using the murders to tell the mayor how to parent his own son.
It turns out that Lynch and his allies were offended, in the wake of the grand jury decision not to indict the officer who choked Garner, that the mayor shared his experience raising his biracial son, Dante, he of the storied Afro — including his advice to exhibit care and caution in encounters with the criminal justice system.
“Because of a history still that hangs over us, the dangers he may face, we’ve had to literally train him as families have all over this city for decades in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him,” de Blasio said after the Garner verdict.
Race-baiting New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin attacked de Blasio immediately. “The city is in turmoil over the Staten Island case and the mayor throws gasoline on the fire by painting the entire police force as a bunch of white racist brutes,” Goodwin wrote after de Blasio’s remarks. “Has he no shame?”
That’s a question easily turned around on Goodwin.
But now former NYPD commissioner Ray Kelly has joined the chorus. ”I think when the mayor made statements about that he had to train his son to be — his son who is biracial — to be careful when he’s dealing with the police, I think that set off this latest firestorm,” he said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”
Actually, Commissioner, the firestorm was set off by a cycle of police killings in multiple cities. That’s what led to protest, and it’s the protest that has led to a preemptive-strike “firestorm” by police against their civilian critics. But that backlash had begun before de Blasio made his remarks about Dante after the NYPD’s Daniel Pantaleo’s acquittal in the Garner case.
Surely Kelly’s not presuming to tell de Blasio how to raise his son. So then what’s the issue – that de Blasio made his advice public? Should he have hidden it? Lied when I asked him about it back in July 2013? All over this country, the parents of black and biracial black children are having that conversation with their kids. There is a history of police treating young black men with disrespect and sometimes savagery. Young black men are 21 times more likely to be shot by cops than young white men. I don’t have one black friend or colleague without a story of a charged encounter with police. These particular facts aren’t up for debate.
But right now police officers and their defenders want to put everything up for debate.
Of course many on the right are also trashing President Obama and Eric Holder for their supposed “anti-police” comments.
“We’ve had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police,” Rudy Giuliani said during an appearance on Fox News on Sunday. “The protests are being embraced, the protests are being encouraged. The protests, even the ones that don’t lead to violence, a lot of them lead to violence, all of them lead to a conclusion. The police are bad, the police are racist. That is completely wrong.”
Giuliani ought to talk to his “Meet the Press” debate partner Michael Eric Dyson, who has repeatedly criticized the president for lecturing protesters, not cops, about the need for calm and understanding. Nothing Obama has ever said sounds remotely like “everybody should hate the police.”
The irrelevant George Pataki, former New York governor, slammed Holder. “Sickened by these barbaric acts, which sadly are a predictable outcome of divisive anti-cop rhetoric of Eric Holder and Mayor de Blasio,” he tweeted Saturday night.
Like Obama, Holder has actually been judicious and cautious in his comments about police-community tension. I was actually surprised by some of his comments about it to MSNBC’s Joy Reid last week. Asked whether he believed black young people should fear the police, he answered:
Notice how Holder points to the fear and distrust on “both sides.” His most pointed suggestion for reform in the interview was better collection of statistics – right now there’s no national database on police killings, for instance, and police have resisted establishing one.
What strikes me is how cautious Obama, Holder and de Blasio have been in their remarks about this latest epidemic of police killings, given the grief and rage in the black community over these issues. De Blasio had the potential to be a mediating, crossover figure in a dispute that has very little common ground. But his police department antagonists have made that all but impossible. This is tribalism, and by sympathizing with his biracial son — Dante’s mother, Chirlane McCray, is black — de Blasio chose the wrong tribe.
Kelly has the audacity to suggest de Blasio’s relationship with the police is so beyond repair, he’s going to need a third party intermediary to deal with them. That may be true, but it’s only because people who might have been mediating forces, like Kelly, jumped onto Lynch’s side.
Unfortunately, even de Blasio’s commissioner, Bill Bratton, has placed some blame on the anti-brutality protests for the killings. “Let’s face it: There’s been, not just in New York but throughout the country, a very strong anti-police, anti-criminal-justice-system, anti-societal initiatives underway,” Bratton said Sunday. “One of the unfortunate aspects sometimes is some people get caught up in these and go in directions they should not.”
It’s disappointing that Bratton would cast his lot with those who want to link the actions of one mentally ill man from Georgia, who first shot his ex-girlfriend, to the work of thousands of mostly peaceful protesters in New York. But on the “Today” show Monday, Bratton expressed support for de Blasio (who has taken heat from protesters for hiring and keeping on the man who pioneered the “broken windows” approach to policing that emphasized enforcing quality of life laws like those against selling loose cigarettes, which led to Garner’s arrest and killing.) Asked if de Blasio’s words had increased the danger to police officers, Bratton quickly said no. “I don’t believe that at all. I’ve spent a lot of time with this man. I have received this year over $400 million outside of my normal budget to improve our training, to improve our facilities, to acquire technology.”
Right now New York needs a mediator between the police and the communities they serve. It should have been the mayor, but sadly, right-wingers and a lot of police officers are using a terrible tragedy to make sure that no one can find middle ground.
Monday, Dec 22, 2014 12:45 PM EST
The right politicizes murders: How it exploited tragedy, told de Blasio how to raise his son
Blaming protests for the murder of two police officers is wrong. Criticizing the mayor's advice to his son is worse
Joan Walsh
The heartbreaking murder of two New York police officers Saturday night, by a mentally ill Georgia man who also shot his ex-girlfriend, saddens all decent people. But it’s the worst in demagoguery to blame the peaceful movement against police brutality that’s emerged nationwide, in the wake of multiple killings of unarmed black men, for the tragedy.
It shouldn’t be surprising that right-wing police defenders would politicize an outrage like this. Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association chief Pat Lynch continues to shame himself, by claiming Mayor Bill de Blasio has “blood on his hands” for expressing sadness at the killing of Eric Garner by police in Staten Island. What I find shocking is that de Blasio’s police critics are using the murders to tell the mayor how to parent his own son.
It turns out that Lynch and his allies were offended, in the wake of the grand jury decision not to indict the officer who choked Garner, that the mayor shared his experience raising his biracial son, Dante, he of the storied Afro — including his advice to exhibit care and caution in encounters with the criminal justice system.
“Because of a history still that hangs over us, the dangers he may face, we’ve had to literally train him as families have all over this city for decades in how to take special care in any encounter he has with the police officers who are there to protect him,” de Blasio said after the Garner verdict.
Race-baiting New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin attacked de Blasio immediately. “The city is in turmoil over the Staten Island case and the mayor throws gasoline on the fire by painting the entire police force as a bunch of white racist brutes,” Goodwin wrote after de Blasio’s remarks. “Has he no shame?”
That’s a question easily turned around on Goodwin.
But now former NYPD commissioner Ray Kelly has joined the chorus. ”I think when the mayor made statements about that he had to train his son to be — his son who is biracial — to be careful when he’s dealing with the police, I think that set off this latest firestorm,” he said Sunday on ABC’s “This Week.”
Actually, Commissioner, the firestorm was set off by a cycle of police killings in multiple cities. That’s what led to protest, and it’s the protest that has led to a preemptive-strike “firestorm” by police against their civilian critics. But that backlash had begun before de Blasio made his remarks about Dante after the NYPD’s Daniel Pantaleo’s acquittal in the Garner case.
Surely Kelly’s not presuming to tell de Blasio how to raise his son. So then what’s the issue – that de Blasio made his advice public? Should he have hidden it? Lied when I asked him about it back in July 2013? All over this country, the parents of black and biracial black children are having that conversation with their kids. There is a history of police treating young black men with disrespect and sometimes savagery. Young black men are 21 times more likely to be shot by cops than young white men. I don’t have one black friend or colleague without a story of a charged encounter with police. These particular facts aren’t up for debate.
But right now police officers and their defenders want to put everything up for debate.
Of course many on the right are also trashing President Obama and Eric Holder for their supposed “anti-police” comments.
“We’ve had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police,” Rudy Giuliani said during an appearance on Fox News on Sunday. “The protests are being embraced, the protests are being encouraged. The protests, even the ones that don’t lead to violence, a lot of them lead to violence, all of them lead to a conclusion. The police are bad, the police are racist. That is completely wrong.”
Giuliani ought to talk to his “Meet the Press” debate partner Michael Eric Dyson, who has repeatedly criticized the president for lecturing protesters, not cops, about the need for calm and understanding. Nothing Obama has ever said sounds remotely like “everybody should hate the police.”
The irrelevant George Pataki, former New York governor, slammed Holder. “Sickened by these barbaric acts, which sadly are a predictable outcome of divisive anti-cop rhetoric of Eric Holder and Mayor de Blasio,” he tweeted Saturday night.
Like Obama, Holder has actually been judicious and cautious in his comments about police-community tension. I was actually surprised by some of his comments about it to MSNBC’s Joy Reid last week. Asked whether he believed black young people should fear the police, he answered:
Notice how Holder points to the fear and distrust on “both sides.” His most pointed suggestion for reform in the interview was better collection of statistics – right now there’s no national database on police killings, for instance, and police have resisted establishing one.
What strikes me is how cautious Obama, Holder and de Blasio have been in their remarks about this latest epidemic of police killings, given the grief and rage in the black community over these issues. De Blasio had the potential to be a mediating, crossover figure in a dispute that has very little common ground. But his police department antagonists have made that all but impossible. This is tribalism, and by sympathizing with his biracial son — Dante’s mother, Chirlane McCray, is black — de Blasio chose the wrong tribe.
Kelly has the audacity to suggest de Blasio’s relationship with the police is so beyond repair, he’s going to need a third party intermediary to deal with them. That may be true, but it’s only because people who might have been mediating forces, like Kelly, jumped onto Lynch’s side.
Unfortunately, even de Blasio’s commissioner, Bill Bratton, has placed some blame on the anti-brutality protests for the killings. “Let’s face it: There’s been, not just in New York but throughout the country, a very strong anti-police, anti-criminal-justice-system, anti-societal initiatives underway,” Bratton said Sunday. “One of the unfortunate aspects sometimes is some people get caught up in these and go in directions they should not.”
It’s disappointing that Bratton would cast his lot with those who want to link the actions of one mentally ill man from Georgia, who first shot his ex-girlfriend, to the work of thousands of mostly peaceful protesters in New York. But on the “Today” show Monday, Bratton expressed support for de Blasio (who has taken heat from protesters for hiring and keeping on the man who pioneered the “broken windows” approach to policing that emphasized enforcing quality of life laws like those against selling loose cigarettes, which led to Garner’s arrest and killing.) Asked if de Blasio’s words had increased the danger to police officers, Bratton quickly said no. “I don’t believe that at all. I’ve spent a lot of time with this man. I have received this year over $400 million outside of my normal budget to improve our training, to improve our facilities, to acquire technology.”
Right now New York needs a mediator between the police and the communities they serve. It should have been the mayor, but sadly, right-wingers and a lot of police officers are using a terrible tragedy to make sure that no one can find middle ground.
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