Black Radical Answers The Call, Kills Two NYC Policemen

[Que]

Was it irresponsible for just them or also of anyone with access to podium and a mic? I ask because I've walked through the protests these past 2 weeks and have yet to hear from the latter.

No one here gives a damn about Sharpton or the head of the Sergeants telling the Mayor to not come to cop funerals. No one even knew who he was until a week ago. What everybody does see is that the police are willing to close ranks around one of their most despicable. That they hold each other in higher regard than the public they've sworn to serve and protect, that's all anyone sees.

The NYPD has more than a PR problem now. And, as much as it would like to tell the world that the blood of the two slain officers are on the mayor's hand, no one here believes it. All anyone can talk about is the moment they realized that cops see us all through the lens of 'us versus them'.

Have you never talked to a cop? All cops see it as us versus civilians, always. It is part of the problem and is never going away. The alternative is anarchy and vigilantism .

Picking a stupid cause like brown to be the poster child just moved cops farther to the "us" vs them mindset.

Killing two of them drowned out anything that could possibly be said.

All of those that have called for protests had zero problems opening their mouths to fan the flames and none of them said one word to quell the flames when the innocent mic was used to call for cop killing. You stand up and say something then, or your silence, given your imprimatur on the protests is assent. Period. That is how cops see it and rightly so. It is war. Most of the war will be legal. Some of it will not be.

I guarantee you that there are raids on gangbangers planned for all over the city. They hope that the gangbangers give them what even sort of looks like a reason to shoot.

 

[islandman]

Have you never talked to a cop? All cops see it as us versus civilians, always. It is part of the problem and is never going away. The alternative is anarchy and vigilantism .

Picking a stupid cause like brown to be the poster child just moved cops farther to the "us" vs them mindset.

Killing two of them drowned out anything that could possibly be said.

All of those that have called for protests had zero problems opening their mouths to fan the flames and none of them said one word to quell the flames when the innocent mic was used to call for cop killing. You stand up and say something then, or your silence, given your imprimatur on the protests is assent. Period. That is how cops see it and rightly so. It is war. Most of the war will be legal. Some of it will not be.

I guarantee you that there are raids on gangbangers planned for all over the city. They hope that the gangbangers give them what even sort of looks like a reason to shoot.

Gangbangers? You need to turn off your TV.

As for your keen understanding of the situation, you lost all credibility when referring to brown as "the poster child". He's not the poster child, he's just the latest. We're not counting participation medals here.

 

[KingOrfeo]

From AlterNet:

AlterNet / By Kali Holloway

5 Outrageous Right-Wing Reactions to the Tragic NYPD Shootings

Conservative pundits and pols blamed the tragedy on everyone from protesters to the president.

December 22, 2014 | Within hours after the tragic killing of two New York City police officers by one clearly disturbed individual, several conservative pundits and talking heads seized the opportunity to politicize the situation by blaming numerous groups and individuals, from protesters to the president. Here are five of the most outrageous reactions to the killings of NYPD officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos.

1) Rudy Giuliani, a man who has repeatedly proved that there is no politically cynical low to which he will not stoop, blamed President Obama for the shootings. Appearing on “Fox News Sunday” Giuliani stated, “We’ve had four months of propaganda starting with the president that everybody should hate the police.”

He went on to bring up the right’s favorite red herring, black-on-black crime, before stating that “the people who do the most for the black community in America are the police."

He also suggested that Obama, Attorney General Eric Holder and the Rev. Al Sharpton have all, in criticizing systemic inequalities in policing and criminal justice, created "an atmosphere of severe, strong anti-police hatred in certain communities."

2) Tucker Carlson proved his bowtie was tied a little too tightly during an appearance on “Fox and Friends” on Sunday night. Carlson initially stated that he didn’t want to “start speculating about why this happened or casting blame unfairly. Again, we know who pulled the trigger, he is ultimately responsible.”

He then went on to speculate and cast blame, saying, “t’s such an emotional thing, it’s so wrong, immoral, unfair, that it’s almost hard not to point at some of the people who have been whipping race hatred in this country for the past couple of months, and saying, you know, they do bear some responsibility for this.”

The pundit and his TV “friends” went on to play a clip that made more specific which leaders Carlson was referring to: Obama, Atty. Gen. Holder and Rev. Al Sharpton.

Carlson wrapped up the segment by going after President Obama for ever having associated with Sharpton in any context, ever: “For [President Obama] to embrace Sharpton, who is just an open bigot and a criminal and a tax cheat, who’s been whipping up race hatred in New York for all these decades. For the president of the United States to embrace this guy as a personal friend, and adviser, to show up at the NAN meetings, to have him in the White House again, and again, and again, and again, to endorse his message....Boy, no wonder you’ve got craziness going on in the streets.”

3) Convicted felon and right-wing blowhard Bernard Kerik penned a piece for TIME in which he stated there’s a “war on cops” that is “as dangerous as any global enemy we face” — including “ISIS, Al-Qaeda, the Taliban” and other “radical extremists.”

Kerik’s crazy gets nuttier from there, with the crooked ex-cop suggesting that “some in the media,” Sharpton and de Blasio have been convincing people that “nearly all of America’s local and state police are out to kill minorities.”

Kerik states that “it’s a lie that has inflamed the hearts and minds of many and turned them against every cop in the nation. It’s a lie that has the potential to rip America at its seams and cause damage far worse than any attack on our country, including that on 9/11/2001. It’s a lie that has caused protests and riots all over this nation, communities to be burned to the ground, police officers to be attacked and beaten, and horribly, two New York City police officers to be assassinated.”

Kerik spends much of the rest of the column basically suggesting that Michael Brown and Eric Garner got what they deserved and that racism isn’t really a thing. He concludes with this gem: “NYPD Officers Rafael Ramos and Wenjian Liu were assassinated over the weekend because their assassin believed the lies perpetrated by de Blasio, Sharpton and others.”

4) Peter King, a Republican Representative from Long Island, New York, clearly also got the memo. King appeared on Fox where he did a fantastic job of sticking to his talking points:

“t’s really time for our national leaders, the president, it’s time for the mayor of New York, and really for many in the media to stop the cop bashing, to stop this anti-police rhetoric.”

“I mean, for the last four months, we’ve basically heard nothing other than the cops are guilty, presumed cops are guilty, then the grand jury says they’re not going to be indicted. People demonstrate, march in the streets, and it’s so slanted.”

5) Roy Blunt, a Republican senator from Missouri, suggested that criticism from Ferguson protesters and others should be blamed for the killings. Because critiquing police brutality is, in his topsy-turvy thinking, tantamount to advocating for violence.

“You got the police out there protecting the protesters and themselves and being constantly criticized for everything they’re doing and now that may be from that constant criticism something may have gotten into this man’s head,” Blunt stated.

“We have to wonder about was there anything going on in the national discussion that led to the deaths of those two officers.”

And yet, Blunt has never wondered aloud what in our national character might’ve led to the deaths of so many others he’s ignored.

 

[Conager]

This is the story that never dies.

 

[Busybody]

From AlterNet:
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there is NOTHING outrageous there

 

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[Que]

Gangbangers? You need to turn off your TV.

As for your keen understanding of the situation, you lost all credibility when referring to brown as "the poster child". He's not the poster child, he's just the latest. We're not counting participation medals here.

Since I don't have TV to waste my time on, I'll pass on your advice on nomenclature to my brother. Maybe he gets his ideas from TV rather than the job? He started his career on the gang task force because he could actually pass the certification test for fluency in Spanish. He is now a lieutenant so maybe he can use his influence to get the cops to call them by their "correct" name. What, exactly should he call them?

 

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[allateup]

Yeah, so what? You want to get into a comment posting contest between them and the dumb mother fuckers walking the streets?

"What Do We Want? Dead Cops! When Do We Want It? Now!"

What is the difference between the murderous crimes of Ismaaiyl Brinsley and Eric Frein?

Does First Degree Murder care what cultural spin you need to wrap things with?

The acts and results are exactly the same.

Do you argue in different circumstances against additional hate crime legislation when the act of First Degree Murder has also been committed?

 

[Que]

The left's favorite apologist press is just trying to marginalize the actual voices of reason so that their inciting all of this seems somehow reasonable. Like were just "looking to start a dialog."

If I wanted to bother to look I am sure I could find something between Martin and now that that columnist has said that was directly incendiary and contributed to the problem.

Takes a healthy dose of self delusion to acknowledge zero responsibility for what happened as a result of their inciting actual riots as well as violent threat-laced protests.

Especially when these same mouthpieces scream "NRA" and "Rightwing" when there is no connection at all.

 

[cjh]

What Do We Want? Dead Cops! When do we want it...now!


The call to action fostered by Obama, Holder, Sharpton, De Blasio, et al:

I must have missed where Obama et al. said those things.

I wonder whether all crazed people who kill others with firearms are radicals?

 

[Que]

What is the difference between the murderous crimes of Ismaaiyl Brinsley and Eric Frein?

Does First Degree Murder care what cultural spin you need to wrap things with?

The acts and results are exactly the same.

Do you argue in different circumstances against additional hate crime legislation when the act of First Degree Murder has also been committed?

The difference is the President of the United States did not inspire Frein. We are not discussing the triggerman. We are discussing those that pointed him at cops and their insistence that they have clean hands.

 

[cjh]

The left's favorite apologist press is just trying to marginalize the actual voices of reason so that their inciting all of this seems somehow reasonable. Like were just "looking to start a dialog."

If I wanted to bother to look I am sure I could find something between Martin and now that that columnist has said that was directly incendiary and contributed to the problem.

Takes a healthy dose of self delusion to acknowledge zero responsibility for what happened as a result of their inciting actual riots as well as violent threat-laced protests.

Especially when these same mouthpieces scream "NRA" and "Rightwing" when there is no connection at all.

So their responsibility was to stay silent just like Sony's responsibility is to pull its movie?

 

[Que]

I must have missed where Obama et al. said those things.

I wonder whether all crazed people who kill others with firearms are radicals?

You missed the part where he involved himself in a professor locked out of his house and said NOTHING about the widely reported calls for cop killing. I know he only knows things after it shows up on the news but it has been in the news for a week prior. It is what he didn't say to the very protesters he encouraged.

I don't particularly care to dig you out of Sgt Spidey obtuse mode, but I guarantee you that is what cops are thinking about all of them. What do you propose to ratchet back that hair trigger on that hammer?

 

[Busybody]

What is the difference between the murderous crimes of Ismaaiyl Brinsley and Eric Frein?

Does First Degree Murder care what cultural spin you need to wrap things with?

The acts and results are exactly the same.

Do you argue in different circumstances against additional hate crime legislation when the act of First Degree Murder has also been committed?

yes, there is a difference

one is a KILLING of one or more

the OTHER is a POLITICAL killing intended to INFLAME millions

 

[Busybody]

I must have missed where Obama et al. said those things.

I wonder whether all crazed people who kill others with firearms are radicals?

his words

and

attitude

ENCOURAGED IT

 

[cjh]

It makes sense now that I think about it.

If crazed people might do something crazy in response to speech, unless you stop speaking the blood is on your hands.

We'd better stop criticizing the crazed faction of Islam in case we prod them into doing something crazy.

The blood will be on Busybody's and Vette's hands the next time we have such a terrorist event on US soil.

Hell, now that I think about it, they caused the Boston Marathon bombing.

 

[Busybody]

It makes sense now that I think about it.

If crazed people might do something crazy in response to speech, unless you stop speaking the blood is on your hands.

We'd better stop criticizing the crazed faction of Islam in case we prod them into doing something crazy.

The blood will be on Busybody's and Vette's hands the next time we have such a terrorist event on US soil.

Hell, now that I think about it, they caused the Boston Marathon bombing.

isn't THAT what YOUR side said with CONGRESS CUNT?

 

[cjh]

You missed the part where he involved himself in a professor locked out of his house and said NOTHING about the widely reported calls for cop killing. I know he only knows things after it shows up on the news but it has been in the news for a week prior. It is what he didn't say to the very protesters he encouraged.

I don't particularly care to dig you out of Sgt Spidey obtuse mode, but I guarantee you that is what cops are thinking about all of them. What do you propose to ratchet back that hair trigger on that hammer?

I propose not lumping all people and motives together like you seem to be doing and to not suggest that all dissent is wrong.

 

[cjh]

isn't THAT what YOUR side said with CONGRESS CUNT?

When are you going on trial for the Boston bombing?

I'll write you in jail.

 

[Busybody]

I propose not lumping all people and motives together like you seem to be doing and to not suggest that all dissent is wrong.

you say that

when YOUR cow is gored

 

[Busybody]

It makes sense now that I think about it.

If crazed people might do something crazy in response to speech, unless you stop speaking the blood is on your hands.

We'd better stop criticizing the crazed faction of Islam in case we prod them into doing something crazy.

The blood will be on Busybody's and Vette's hands the next time we have such a terrorist event on US soil.

Hell, now that I think about it, they caused the Boston Marathon bombing.

Muslims KILL on their own

No prodding needed


BUT...LIBZ that PLACATE em and WHITWASH em should be in jail, they cause the TERROR ATTACKS....the FBI was warned against the Boston Turds and IGNORED EM

 

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[cjh]

you say that

when YOUR cow is gored

I'll send books if they let me.

No hidden files, though.