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Changes in Attitudes.

toubab said:
It's disturbing how many young people today are practically illiterate. Can't spell shit. Can't write a logical, grammatically correct sentence to save their lives. Can't even speak such a sentence. Can't do simple math on their own. But they can sure as hell use their thumbs to punch out a lot of texting gibberish on their phones. And it all seems to be getting worse.
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You might want to clean that up a bit...

xoxoxoxo

Grammar Nazi
 
You got to admit, that was funny.


I'm here to clean the pool, and that's all, so tell your lady friend there, I said NO!
 
toubab said:
It's disturbing how many young people today are practically illiterate. Can't spell shit. Can't write a logical, grammatically correct sentence to save their lives. Can't even speak such a sentence. Can't do simple math on their own. But they can sure as hell use their thumbs to punch out a lot of texting gibberish on their phones. And it all seems to be getting worse.
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Starting sentences with "But" or "And" is grammatically lazy.
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I love how they use dog whistle words to imply things that are not remotely true.

Canada is 20% "immigrant" as opposed to 14% in the US. does that mean if we increase our immigration by 6% using ~shudder~ white Canadian quotas we would be "more diverse?"

Is he suggesting any place in Canada has more non-whites than say California that is something like 39% white? If you tell someone no other thing than that you are a non-immigrant Californian, the best guess is you are Hispanic.

Birth rates amongst Hispanics alone actually lowers our immigration rate, even with the influx of Hispanic immigrants.

In raw numbers our 14% immigrants are multiples of their 20%. Our immigrants are far poorer and a bigger burden on social services.

His entire attitude reminds me of a past neighbor of mine. Very active in the local liliy-white Democratic precinct. Asshole was over 6' tall so he could see over my 5' (maximum code allows) fence. I had 3 project cars back there that if he got his large nose within 2 feet of my fence he could look down into my yard.

Says to me, "You need to live in South Phoenix with "those kind of people." He did not specify whether I should stay north of Broadway or South. I was one of the few people in my line of work serving south of Broadway, much less practically the only one serving north of Broadway.

Of course since my politics decry what his has done to both of those neighborhoods with their ethnically pure corrupt always Democratic Party politicians, I am the racist. He of course has a couple of black friends from the city Basketball league, just like Lance has walked bravely among a few Caribbean transplants in Canada.

Cause, you know as long as you get the right mix of skin color in your united colors of bennington poster it is EXACTLY like living in Newark. Speaking of which, the GB's very own Crip seems to be the target of ridicule by the good liberals on the Board for how he expresses himself.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Well, that would explain all your global warming denial posts.
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Touche'

4est_4est_Gump said:
You might want to clean that up a bit...

xoxoxoxo

Grammar Nazi
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Touche'

RobDownSouth said:
Starting sentences with "But" or "And" is grammatically lazy.
:nods:
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Would have laughed but AJ beat you to it.

It is ALWAYS nerve wracking to point out grammar because it seems invariably that tired old saw about point one finger and three point back at you seems apt.
 
RobDownSouth said:
Starting sentences with "But" or "And" is grammatically lazy.
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Lazy, my ass. This is a fucking message board, and there's nothing lazy about what I wrote. And nothing grammatically incorrect about it, either, given that context.
 
Oh look, grampa cancer balls is going to set those blacks straight.

It's funny how an old, white trash, dipshit thinks he knows anything about what blacks feel about living in america.
 
Ishmael said:
Education in general and command of the English language in particular are the prime indicators of economic success throughout the individuals lifetime.
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Education and one's ability to communicate in English are import. But "prime"? No not at all. Basically, how rich you are has to do with how rich your parents are. It's called "intergenerational mobility".

You might want to read The Rich Get Richer and the Poor Get Prison or The Divide to get a better idea before you start talking out of your ass, again.
 
Ishmael said:
I was reading this blurb this AM and thought it worthy of discussion.

Young Blacks, Old Blacks

The part that focused my attention is this;



There are a lot of thoughts packed into those two paragraphs. Stating with the 'police harassment' notion. Is it really police harassment, or could it be more of a function of attitude towards authority? The attitude notion is repeated often enough throughout the article. Not all interactions with the police are harassment, unless you believe it to be so. And the choice of using traffic tickets as the example is a stretch, after all the receiving of a traffic citation is based on the recipients behavior. It's not harassment, it's merely the officers doing their jobs.

That being said it is undeniable that the impact of traffic fines, or most fines these days, hits the lowest quitile of earners the hardest. To one man a $100 fine is pocket change, to another it's a choice between the rent or eating. And in some locals fines for minor infractions have become excessive.

Then there is the jobs issue. In that respect the black community, in reality all communities, have been poorly served by the educational system. Listening (reading) the statements of many of the youth of Ferguson it's obvious that they speak barely intelligible English. If that is a reflection of their overall education it's painfully obvious that they are not going to qualify for any job that might be considered to have a future. Education in general and command of the English language in particular are the prime indicators of economic success throughout the individuals lifetime. It's easy to see why these young people are frustrated and angry. Where they make their mistake is by blaming this on discrimination on the part of the employer and that just isn't the case. The discrimination is taking place in the educational system, a system put in place and perpetuated by the very governmental bodies they demand 'fix' the employment situation. The very real problem is that these youths are essentially unemployable for any meaningful work out side of the possibility of the construction trades and those jobs are going to the illegals.

My fear is that at least two generations of young blacks are lost. They really have no future and it isn't entirely their fault. And without a sever overhaul of the educational systems even more generations will be lost and the divide will grow even deeper. And the anger and frustration will grow because after all, they have their High School Diploma in hand proving that they were educated and they truly don't understand just how ignorant they really are.

Ishmael
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This change in attitude isn't limited only to young black people in the US. It may be greater in that population, but it's in the young white population of the country as well. And not to a small degree.
 
toubab said:
This change in attitude isn't limited only to young black people in the US. It may be greater in that population, but it's in the young white population of the country as well. And not to a small degree.
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This is Ishmael's thread, so please stay on topic.

The issue is lazy stupid black kids.

And today, Ish is blaming the Education system.

Discuss!
 
dan_c00000 said:
Education and one's ability to communicate in English are import. But "prime"? No not at all. Basically, how rich you are has to do with how rich your parents are. It's called "intergenerational mobility".

You might want to read The Rich Get Richer and the Poor Get Prison or The Divide to get a better idea before you start talking out of your ass, again.
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You could also read the Communist Manifesto for some helpful ass-talking points.

So, you are of the opinion that the poor parents are highly educated and good communicators? Just the man keepin' them down, huh? The cycle of poverty that Ish aptly described is not a cycle of ignorance concurrent?

That successful segments of society that were once downtrodden minorities did not lift themselves through education primarily?
 
Skiddles2014 said:
Oh look, grampa cancer balls is going to set those blacks straight.

It's funny how an old, white trash, dipshit thinks he knows anything about what blacks feel about living in america.
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Maybe you and Lance could give a tutorial about "Blacks Living in America: The Canadian Perspective."

I'd pay for that three-day seminar.
 
query said:
Maybe you and Lance could give a tutorial about "Blacks Living in America: The Canadian Perspective."

I'd pay for that three-day seminar.
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I doubt I could give that tutorial. Not accurately, at least.

Could you?

Not the Canadian perspective bit. The being black in America bit.
 
cjh said:
I doubt I could give that tutorial. Not accurately, at least.

Could you?

Not the Canadian perspective bit. The being black in America bit.
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Me neither, but Lance and Skid seems to be well versed, that's why I was interested in their expertise on the matter.

Our Canadian and UK friends fine contributions of astute commentary on the state of America and her politics makes me wonder why they never start threads about how wonderful their politicians, social programs, race relations, war on poverty and the like are in their countries so we can learn by their better governance.

Wasn't there some tension between the Protestants and Catholics for a week or two?

How does Quebec feel about their treatment by those tolerant Canadians at large?

I know America was stolen from the Washington Redskins, but which Indian granted the title to the land under Lance's house?
 
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query said:
You could also read the Communist Manifesto for some helpful ass-talking points.

So, you are of the opinion that the poor parents are highly educated and good communicators? Just the man keepin' them down, huh? The cycle of poverty that Ish aptly described is not a cycle of ignorance concurrent?

That successful segments of society that were once downtrodden minorities did not lift themselves through education primarily?
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You clearly didn't read my post. Go back and read it or have your mom read it to you. Ish described nothing. He's response was "speak English damn!" Which is a common theme of racists. No shock you're defending him on that.

Furthermore, education while helpful is just a small part of the story Ish managed to get completely wrong. Issues like school segregation, family income, and ability to afford fancy SAT prep courses determines who gets that education.

I'm not shocked things like "institutional racism" are outside the realm of possibility for you.

Of course you're an old white racist so why should the plight of poor black folks concern you? After all they don't speak English, right?
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
They look pretty damned diverse to me too...


:D
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  • No matter how much the Chief hates, the Klan won't have him. They don't accept non-White members.
  • No matter how much Miles hates, the Klan won't have him. They don't accept Jewish members.
  • No matter how much Vetteman hates, the Klan won't have him. They don't accept gay members.
 
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