Cut or uncut?

[Shankara20]

http://img37.imagevenue.com/loc572/th_39870_bliss_123_572lo.JPG

to restore to actual proportions click​

once again - Dr. Rebecca, Esq. to the rescue.....

 

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However interesting these sites might have been at one time, most of them no longer seem to exist. Of the "no cut" sites, only about four seemed to actually still work, The rest either resulted in destination errors, or the basic 404 page.

Thats the last time I endeavour to cut and paste a list of sites like that. How annoying . Credit to you DVS for taking the time to explore further.

Further apologies to Sir Shank for taking up so much space on your thread under the recently discovered circumstances regards the links posted.

I also thought it was interesting that one of the restoration sites was for baby crib restoration. I don't know the significance of this, other than a possible error when the original list was compiled. Or, maybe a little joke, on that person's part?

I think the hedge trimmer comment may have been a dead give away on Peter's sense of humor.

I really don't want to get into an ongoing debate any further on this topic. I made my statement and the 'extra' was a well meaning resource. I had a personal dilemma as to whether to mention the choice I made for my son as it would illustrate to some degree my 'opinion' though decided I wouldn't. I doubt its of much interest really to anyone and is a further issue by my not having his consent.

Apologies once again Shank for getting a little off task from your original Thread topic, I hope posting the picture is amends enough for you.

PS Its very difficult to type with a cat insistent on being between my arms...I think I'll go feed it before it bites me

 

[tanyachrs]

The worst thing about American circumcision is the way we've got all these men brainwashed into being glad that a pleasurable part of their cock has been cut off. Guys do sometimes have to get circumcised later in life for various reasons. I've known a few and there ain't one thinks it's an improvement.

 

[Shankara20]

Thats the last time I endeavour to cut and paste a list of sites like that. How annoying . Credit to you DVS for taking the time to explore further.

Further apologies to Sir Shank for taking up so much space on your thread under the recently discovered circumstances regards the links posted.



I think the hedge trimmer comment may have been a dead give away on Peter's sense of humor.

I really don't want to get into an ongoing debate any further on this topic. I made my statement and the 'extra' was a well meaning resource. I had a personal dilemma as to whether to mention the choice I made for my son as it would illustrate to some degree my 'opinion' though decided I wouldn't. I doubt its of much interest really to anyone and is a further issue by my not having his consent.

Apologies once again Shank for getting a little off task from your original Thread topic, I hope posting the picture is amends enough for you.

PS Its very difficult to type with a cat insistent on being between my arms...I think I'll go feed it before it bites me

All is well and I think the discussion has been interesting. All threads considered this has stayed fairly focused.

 

[Shankara20]

PS Its very difficult to type with a cat insistent on being between my arms...I think I'll go feed it before it bites me

this might help you
https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=391582

sorry it not in a BDSM forum

 

[Netzach]

I'm Jewish, I'm biased. I like it kosher.

Non kosher has novelty, but I'm kind of weirded out by my forays with it.

 

[Netzach]

Incidentally, I agree with whoever pointed out that there is NO parallel between clitorectomy and circumcision. Clitorectomy is maybe more equivalent to having your dick sawed off.

Additionally you cannot believe how offensive some of the rhetoric being thrown around is to people who are Jewish, or how integral circumcision is to Jewish identity. I'm sure Muslims see it the same way.

 

[DVS]

Incidentally, I agree with whoever pointed out that there is NO parallel between clitorectomy and circumcision. Clitorectomy is maybe more equivalent to having your dick sawed off.

Additionally you cannot believe how offensive some of the rhetoric being thrown around is to people who are Jewish, or how integral circumcision is to Jewish identity. I'm sure Muslims see it the same way.

Just what is the reasoning behind a clitorectomy anyway? Is it religious, was it stylish and fashionable centuries ago, suppose to be healthy for the woman, or is it just mean doctors that demand sexual orgasm control by means of surgical denial? I can't see anything logical about it, myself.

 

[chris9]

Chris - I like your "And I want to add that I don't thing the male thingie is the most beautiful thing nature ever devised. It's fun, but it's not particularly pretty" - it is a clear statement of your esthetic valuation of thingies. And I can understand your POV. I, on the other hand, happen to have a completely opposite visual appreciation of thingies - I find them lovely in all their manifestations.

Thank god everybody has different tastes. It won't do to discuss the why and wherefores (as in why don't I like the look of thingies, but you do), but it sure is interesting to see other people's opinions.

As to circumcision for infants or not I figure that if doing it solely for hygiene, the risk to cut off any skin is a bit too much. I don't have any actual stats and am a lazy-ass so won't go look for some, but the immune system of infants is not always the best. And every wound has a chance of infection. Now I believe doing it in 'civilized' lands, having it done by people who know how to do it, sterile and everything, this chance is not big. And if you have any reason to do it other than hygiene (e.g. religion) I understand doing it. But doing it because it's easier to clean seems a bit overdone.

 

[volvin]

dude, seriously, no offense to the guys here if you are, but personally i find uncut nauseating. it's gross.

Thingies are fun
Thingies are fine
But my dear lady you have made men cry

But really may i ask why you find uncut nauseating?

 

[catalina_francisco]

Uncut....natural, unmutilated and they are so sensitive and responsive...not to mention they are gorgeous to watch unfold and bloom.

Catalina

 

[tanyachrs]

If what I said was offensive to anyone who's Jewish, I do apologize. Although I'm not a religious person, I can understand the value that religion has in some people's lives. My comments referred to the American practice of circumcising almost all male infants whether there's good reason or not.

 

[tanyachrs]

Just what is the reasoning behind a clitorectomy anyway?

I believe the idea is to prevent women from enjoying sex, thereby reducing the temptation to have sex outside of marriage and disgrace their family.

 

[FurryFury]

I don't find thingies pretty regardless. Although with a silver sequined pasty on top it looks cuter. As I previous stated I don't see a lot of difference visually between the two.

I do agree it is the parent's choice. I'm the sort of parent that won't piece my daughter's ears either. For me it's just wrong to do anything like that unless and until they ask, beg, for it. They also need to prove they can take care of whatever they want done, IMO. The whole mind set surrounding cutting in the US, just confounds me.

However I did not mean to offend anyone. Those who have religious reasons, I wouldn't presume to tell what to do. If fact, I wouldn't presume to tell anyone else what to do.

Fury

 

[Shankara20]

Incidentally, I agree with whoever pointed out that there is NO parallel between clitorectomy and circumcision. Clitorectomy is maybe more equivalent to having your dick sawed off.

Additionally you cannot believe how offensive some of the rhetoric being thrown around is to people who are Jewish, or how integral circumcision is to Jewish identity. I'm sure Muslims see it the same way.

No offence meant. I understand the context of a religious ritual. My “cultural” reference was pointing toward the general practice of people who do not hold any sort of understanding other than “I don’t know - that is what we all do”.I expect a Jewish boy can be given an explanation within his religious community for the ritual.

 

[D's mariposa]

I'm sure Muslims see it the same way.

Just what is the reasoning behind a clitorectomy anyway? Is it religious, was it stylish and fashionable centuries ago, suppose to be healthy for the woman, or is it just mean doctors that demand sexual orgasm control by means of surgical denial? I can't see anything logical about it, myself.

It's NOT religious. It's cultural.

Female circumcision, aka female genital mutilation (fgm) appears to have originated in the Stone Age in areas of central Africa. The practice then traveled along the Nile Valley. The Arab-Muslim armies conquered the area during the 8th century, which is at around the same time women's rights in the Muslim world were being redefined and in some cases revoked. The Prophet had originally set things up so that men and women were pretty much equal, and actually gave more rights to women than other cultures at the same time had. Gradually, the restriction of womans rights and rise of practices like fgm spread throughout the empire. Eventually, it was assumed that a woman who had undergone fgm was still a virgin (false, sex is difficult but not impossible) and that she had no desire (also false, as desire/love are emotional responses, not physical ones) and was therefore pure. In many areas, a woman who is not altered in this way is unmarriagable, and members of her family may also "suffer" because her state. In parts of Kenya, a girl in her late teens who has not been cut will frequently undergo this if she has a younger male sibling, because he will not be initiated into the warrior class because of her body.

Circumcision is not mentioned pro, or con in Koran or the Hadith, and those who say that it is are wrong. Many Muslims will tell you this. But that doesn't mean that they will refuse it. In this case, the cultural identity of the Muslim is more important than the religious reality.

Sources:

"Nine Parts Desire", Geraldine Brooks, p. 1995 by Anchor Publishing Trade Paperbacks Division"

"Female Circumcision: Rite of Passage or Violation of Rights"; Frances A Althaus. On line resource, located here.

The Koran (Yes, I've read it. Like many major religions, if you go back to the source, it's not so bad. Zealots of any variety are scary, since the integrity seems to get burned away in the heat of their desire. The book above (nine parts above) is a good, easy, highly readable overview of women in Islam today.)

 

[noise]

I have had both and like them both equally my current boyfriend is uncut and i don't see any advantage/disadvantage of either, when the foreskin was pulled back it looked exactly like the cut man i had before, i have friends that have never been with a uncut man who say its disgusting but how on earth would they know if they have never seen it in real life? i try to say to them its just like a cut dick, im sure they will get over their ignorant thoughts when they finally get a guy that is uncut. anyways what im trying to say is a dicks a dick wether its cut or uncut i dont care aslong as its used to pleasure me

 

[Shankara20]

I have had both and like them both equally my current boyfriend is uncut and i don't see any advantage/disadvantage of either, when the foreskin was pulled back it looked exactly like the cut man i had before, i have friends that have never been with a uncut man who say its disgusting but how on earth would they know if they have never seen it in real life? i try to say to them its just like a cut dick, im sure they will get over their ignorant thoughts when they finally get a guy that is uncut. anyways what im trying to say is a dicks a dick wether its cut or uncut i dont care aslong as its used to pleasure me

Welcome to Lit, noise. I'm glad your first post was here.


Shank

 

[shy slave]

There's been studies slave. There's no absolute proof. AND THEY ASKED MEN. Google it.

I didn't get hostile to you and I didn't make this personal. I understand if you have powerful feelings about this subject but damn! Why am I your target now?!

My target???

I don't target people, I make comments.
If I wanted to target people, I would beup front and out loud. My post did not target you it made a comment following your comment.
Sometimes I pm people if they say something that upsets me, that is not for the board; its personal.

As for calling me 'slave' most refer to me as 'shy' or shy slave.
I am not your slave, but as it is part of my name I won't ask you to refrain from using it.
I would however point out that using the word 'slave' to refer to me is like using a person surname when speaking to them; something that only happens in public school.

As for the studies I would welcome title or web links. I would be interested to know the size of the study and what the criteria for the presented hypothesis was.

I know men who have had their foreskin removed as adults and they ALL say it is more sensitive and for a while having material rubbing against it is almost painful.

My eldest son needed his removed when he was six yrs old, he complained for several weeks that his pants rubbed against it and hurt him. He was not referring to the healing would but the head of his penis.

The studies may only be referring to men who were cut as babies and therefore have become de-sensitised from a very early age. Skin is resilient that way.

On a final note if you feel targeted by me we should discuss this privately and reduce a thread to petty bickering.

 

[A Desert Rose]

... On a final note if you feel targeted by me we should discuss this privately and reduce a thread to fun filled shopping with Miss Rose.

why yes, thank you for the invite, dolly.

 

[A Desert Rose]

I'll meetcha right here....

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c170/RoxannaDanna/target.jpg

 

[shy slave]

Do they sell both cut and uncut cocks in Target?

If so I have my credit card and a BIG trolley at the ready, so lets shop



Miss Rebecca thinks I am cock obsessed

I do admit that whenever I see a man my eyes got to his crotch a split second before they look at his face, and out shopping I love to sit in a cafe and be sort of eye level as the walk by

I don't think thats obsessed, is it????

After all I love to shop for purses and window shop for just about anything else....sausages, Popsicles, plums, vacuum cleaners with hose attachments, lava lamps with cone pointed tops......

What??????

 

[zekealicious]

Cut and happy for it

 

[FurryFury]

Do they sell both cut and uncut cocks in Target?

If so I have my credit card and a BIG trolley at the ready, so lets shop



Miss Rebecca thinks I am cock obsessed

I do admit that whenever I see a man my eyes got to his crotch a split second before they look at his face, and out shopping I love to sit in a cafe and be sort of eye level as the walk by

I don't think thats obsessed, is it????

After all I love to shop for purses and window shop for just about anything else....sausages, Popsicles, plums, vacuum cleaners with hose attachments, lava lamps with cone pointed tops......

What??????

*giggles*

 

[DVS]

Thats the last time I endeavour to cut and paste a list of sites like that. How annoying . Credit to you DVS for taking the time to explore further.

I've taken a little time and found a few sites that are both pro and con. As a disclaimer, I have gone to all of the main addresses, and they all work. I've even ventured into some of the sub-links, but because some sites have quite a few of those, I obviously didn't check them all.

I didn't try to make a pro list and a con list, as some of these sites try to give both sides of the story. Some of these are pretty good in the info they give, as more than one site stated a circumcision makes it less likely to get HIV. I thought that was interesting. Is it true? You must decide for yourselves.

I didn't see that much on religion, but the last site on the list does have a religion bias. Most others quoted medical or personal reasons for pro or con.

So, if you enjoy reading, have fun. But, most of these don't have many pictures. So, if you are looking for a lot of graphics, you might want to stick with snowy's link. That one has a plethera of penile pics.


http://www.circlist.com/resources/resources.html

http://www.circlist.com/resources/circlist.html

http://www.male-initiation.net/debate.html

http://www.texaschapbookpress.com/circumcision01.htm

http://www.cirp.org/pages/cultural/glass0/

http://www.cirp.org/library/general/warren2/

http://www.circumstitions.com/AAP-bro.html

http://www.uvm.edu/~gdavis/nocirc/media.htm
(sorry about the blue on blue. You can highlight the text and it
will be easier to read. I don't understand some color preferences)

http://www.math.missouri.edu/~rich/MGM/insane.html
(to be uncut is to be insane?)

http://www.homiegfunk.com/RIC2.htm

http://www.afraidtoask.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Board=foreskin&Number=197764
(this is a message board where they were debating the topic)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Friends_of_Robert

http://www.coolnurse.com/circumcision_probs2.htm

http://www.tornwing.com/peacefulbeginnings/index.htm#menu
(has lots of links, about half way down the page...
I didn't check them all to see if they are still active)

http://www.male-initiation.net/arc.html

http://dictionary.laborlawtalk.com/Male_circumcision
(this link has others within...I don't know it all of them still exist)

http://parents.berkeley.edu/advice/health/circumcision.html

http://www.epinions.com/kifm-review-8BF-1F8A35A4-397BAE97-prod5

http://www.cirp.org/library/statements/aap/#a1975

http://dmoz.org/Health/Child_Health/Neonatal_Circumcision/
(several links, with a lot of links beyond those)

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03779a.htm