Did “working-class whites” switch from Obama to Trump BECAUSE the economy was better?

[Rightguide]

You guys…
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for KingOrfeo lol

I mean really...it looks like a friggin crime scene.

 

[KingOrfeo]

No but the fact that you nor anyone else on the left can name a white privilege does.

It's a make believe term for lefties who want to pretend it's 1917 instead of 2017 so they have somewhere to direct their blame for failing at life.

Here, read this.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Here, read this.

Yea I've read the propaganda before. Unequal results in life must = evil white males oppressing everyone not a white guy, I got it.

It doesn't name a single solitary privilege white people have for being white.

And until someone points out exactly what privileges white people get for being white I'll continue to think that "White Privilege" is a make believe term for lefties who want to pretend it's 1917 instead of 2017 so they have somewhere to direct their blame for failing at life.

 

[Conager]

Here, read this.

Anything you, yourself, cannot explain to a layman in your own words...you don't understand.

Why not simply admit that it's part of the catachism of being a modern liberal and that you don't actually have even any anecdotal experience with anything of the sort?

 

[KingOrfeo]

Why not simply admit that it's part of the catachism of being a modern liberal and that you don't actually have even any anecdotal experience with anything of the sort?

My anecdotal experience, of course, is with not being pulled over for no reason, being assaulted by police officers, getting the fisheye from the store clerk, or otherwise suffering inconvenience or injustice or diminished opportunities or heightened suspicion on account of my color.

 

[BotanyBoy]

My anecdotal experience, of course, is with not being pulled over for no reason, being assaulted by police officers, getting the fisheye from the store clerk, or otherwise suffering inconvenience or injustice or diminished opportunities or heightened suspicion on account of my color.

None of which has nothing to do with your color.

What injustice and diminished opportunities do people of color suffer?

Specifically....

 

[KingOrfeo]

None of which has nothing to do with your color.

What injustice and diminished opportunities do people of color suffer?

Specifically....

They get pulled over for no reason. They get assaulted and injured by police officers in situations where white suspects would not (a study you yourself cited shows this, though it also shows they run no extra risk of dying). They get the fisheye from the clerk. They get their job applications tossed in the wastebasket the moment they leave, and they miss out on opportunities better-networked whites can reach. You know all of this is true; everybody knows it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

They get pulled over for no reason.

So do white guys. That's not a POC exclusive ya nut.

They get assaulted and injured by police officers in situations where white suspects would not (a study you yourself cited shows this, though it also shows they run no extra risk of dying).

No it showed they get assaulted and injured at higher rates. And it didn't say why nor did it specify that it was because skin color.

It also showed lower risk of dying, not 'no extra risk'. Why must you be so dishonest?

They get the fisheye from the clerk.

That's a potential racist person and not at all exclusive to POC, white guys catch stink eye too.

They get their job applications tossed in the wastebasket the moment they leave

Happens to white boys nation wide in every city every day.

How is that a white privilege?

and they miss out on opportunities better-networked whites can reach.

Better networked anyone.

Once again, that's not a white privilege, it's a social behavior privilege.

You know all of this is true; everybody knows it.

Some of it is true but it's not white privilege.....it's pretty much exclusively green privilege and behavior privilege.

I say pretty much because there could be a white privilege I've just not seen yet.

But so far it's been 100% behavior and or wealth privilege. It's just not 1950 anymore KO.

 

[KingOrfeo]

So do white guys. That's not a POC exclusive ya nut.



No it showed they get assaulted and injured at higher rates. And it didn't say why nor did it specify that it was because skin color.

It also showed lower risk of dying, not 'no extra risk'. Why must you be so dishonest?


That's a potential racist person and not at all exclusive to POC, white guys catch stink eye too.



Happens to white boys nation wide in every city every day.



Better networked anyone.

Once again, that's not a white privilege, it's a social behavior privilege.

None of that is color-neutral. It might happen to whites but it happens a lot more to blacks, and the difference does not depend on their behavior.

 

[BotanyBoy]

None of that is color-neutral.

Bullshit.

The only color that matters is green.

It might happen to whites but it happens a lot more to blacks.

No it doesn't.

In certain instances there might be slight differences but those usually come down to behavioral patterns, not skin color.

It certainly doesn't mean there is some kind of white privilege.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Bullshit.

The only color that matters is green buddy.



In certain instances there might be slight differences but those usually come down to behavioral patterns, not skin color.

It certainly doesn't mean there is some kind of white privilege.

Deny it all you like, it is real and it is white privilege and you know it.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Deny it all you like, it is real

Then how come you can't point out any specifics??

and it is white privilege

How is it white privilege when there are more white people dealing with the shit than there are POC in their entirety??

What privileges do white trailer trash living in total poverty have that all the highly successful billionaire and celebrity POC don't??

They have more and get fucked with less than white trailer trash by a HUGE margin....clearly the successful POC are holding all these poor white people down with their POC privileges right?

and you know it.

No, I don't that's why I'm asking you to explain it beyond your claims that it exists.

Shit just a single example of it would be nice.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Then how come you can't point out any specifics??

I have. And I'm sure if I weren't white I could point out a lot more.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I have.

No, you haven't....you pointed out some behavioral privileges, money privilege and that there are occasionally racist assholes.

None of which are white.

And I'm sure if I weren't white I could point out a lot more.

I'm not white, I can't name a single fucking thing.

What exactly do white people get for being white?

 

[KingOrfeo]

What exactly do white people get for being white?

Mostly, some small but important measure of exemption from shit. Beyond that, better career and (even today) housing opportunities.

 

[RobDownSouth]

What exactly do white people get for being white?

Fewer traffic citations and lighter drug sentences come to mind.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Mostly, some small but important measure of exemption from shit.

Such as???

Beyond that, better career opportunities.

You mean better than Oprah? Neil deGrasse Tyson? Jay Z? Barrack Obama? Tiger Woods?? The Rock or any number of other super successful and or celebrity minorities??

Bitchin' careers and fabulous wealth aren't a white privilege.

BTW Asians, not whites have the best career opportunities and make the most money, what happened to white privilege there? how do you explain that?

What privileges do poor white trailer trash have that Barrack Hussein Obama doesn't?

Name them SPECIFICALLY, and I'll buy into the idea that white people get special ups for being white.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Fewer traffic citations

Studies in NJ, DC, Chicago and LA all found that's because they don't commit as many moving violations, proportionally.

Same with dealing drugs, assault, robbery, burglary, murder and rape.

Proportionally speaking the only thing white people do more than black folks is get drunk and beat their wives and occasionally shoot a bunch of random people for shitz n' giggles.

You think those behaviors might just maybe have something to do with the elevated citations/arrests/convictions in the black community? Hmmm??

Nahh....couldn't possibly be that could it?? Must be the color of their skin! Behavior has nothing to do with being punished under the law for bad behaviors we as a society have deemed subject to criminal legal actions....right rob?

and lighter drug sentences come to mind.

Once again....LOTS more repeat offenders from the black community, triggering 3 strikes laws all over the country resulting in overall heavier drug sentencing.

Which white boys get slammed with all the time, every day all across M'uricuh.

Where the is the white privilege for those fuckers?

What about all the POC who don't or don't fail at dealing drugs? They don't encounter 3 strike penalties for drug dealers, are they getting white privilege too??

Behavior privilege....not skin color privilege.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Such as???

Getting pulled over, getting beaten up, getting suspected, despised, excluded, etc.

You mean better than Oprah? Neil deGrasse Tyson? Jay Z? Barrack Obama? Tiger Woods?? The Rock or any number of other super successful and or celebrity minorities??

Bitchin' careers and fabulous wealth aren't a white privilege.

"Data" is not the plural of "anecdote." Some blacks get bitchin' careers, but statistically blacks have far less chance than whites of just finding work. See here, here, here, and here

 

[BotanyBoy]

Getting pulled over, getting beaten up, getting suspected, despised, excluded, etc.

How are any of those white privileges?

All that shit happens to white people, every day, more so than POC.

Some blacks get bitchin' careers,

And all whites do?? LOL....put the crack pipe down KO.

"Data" is not the plural of "anecdote."

I didn't say it was.

Data shows there isn't anything stopping POC from having successful careers as there are a fucking shit load of POC who are wildly successful from just landing a good job to being independently rich and or famous.

Is that their white privilege???

but statistically blacks have far less chance than whites of just finding work.

Ok.

And I'm assuming this is due to a policy or program set up by white people to oppress black people then? Or maybe some evil white guy that somehow making all these POC break laws and behave just as idiotically as their white trash neighbors who get shit on just as hard???

 

[BotanyBoy]

And once again KO just runs from reality.

Typical.

 

[KingOrfeo]

And once again KO just runs from reality.

Typical.

More a matter of your points having been refuted a thousand times. What's the point? You're almost always wrong, and you can never admit you're wrong; you can't even give up the argument, you have to just keep repeating your fractal wrongness.

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[BotanyBoy]

More a matter of your points having been refuted a thousand times.

You've never refuted shit, you danced around it and pretended white people never get the stink eye from anyone and behavior doesn't or shouldn't matter.

That's why you can't tell me what advantages poor white trailer trash have over all the highly successful POC out there.

What's the point?

To maybe see a different POV where the USA isn't run by a bunch of Nazi's and all white people are born inherently racist in all that they do.

Considering you can't name a single social, legal or economic privilege that is inherently tied to skin color.

Would you ever consider that it's 2017 and not 1955?

That the only real color privilege in America is green, not white, and has been for a while now??
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