Did Nancy Pelosi Commit Treason...

[miles]

People over there have been laughing at you, Sack O' Shit, since you've been here.

More like retching every time he shows his fat face.

 

[Busybody]

That Hanoi John says the agreement IS NON BINDING shows the letter the 47 patriots sent....was TRUE

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

What treaty? There is no treaty yet. You're only pretending that there is one so you can imagine pissing on it.

It probably won't be a treaty at all, but a nonbinding agreement under international law agreed to by the members of the UN Security Council.


In that case, Congress won't have shit to say about it.

 

[Busybody]

It probably won't be a treaty at all, but a nonbinding agreement under international law agreed to by the members of the UN Security Council.


In that case, Congress won't have shit to say about it.

 

[Busybody]

It probably won't be a treaty at all, but a nonbinding agreement under international law agreed to by the members of the UN Security Council.


In that case, Congress won't have shit to say about it.

non binding means its non enforceable....what stops Iran from the BOMB?

 

[RobDownSouth]

More like retching every time he shows his fat face.

הילדים שלך צריכים למות בשריפה.

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Note that non-binding does not mean unenforceable as BusyDummy suggests. Look at the Algiers Accords, the recent US- Russian agreement to remove chemical weapons from Syria, the conclusion of the Vietnam war.

A non-binding agreement with the UN Security Council + Germany is a first step toward a later legally binding agreement. Incentives to comply with the non-binding agreement can be taken away should Iran not live up to its end of the bargain.

The UN nature of the agreement lends more stability than an agreement solely between the U.S. And Iran. A security council resolution will give it standing that will make it very difficult for a successor to undo. Regardless, the Congressional Republicans KNOW that they have zero ability to veto or affect any agreement that comes out of these negotiations, apparently so does Iran.

The Iranian foreign relations minister was spot on when he called this nothing more than a bit of political propaganda from the Republican Party.

 

[Busybody]

Note that non-binding does not mean unenforceable as BusyDummy suggests. Look at the Algiers Accords, the recent US- Russian agreement to remove chemical weapons from Syria, the conclusion of the Vietnam war.

A non-binding agreement with the UN Security Council + Germany is a first step toward a later legally binding agreement. Incentives to comply with the non-binding agreement can be taken away should Iran not live up to its end of the bargain.

The UN nature of the agreement lends more stability than an agreement solely between the U.S. And Iran. A security council resolution will give it standing that will make it very difficult for a successor to undo. Regardless, the Congressional Republicans KNOW that they have zero ability to veto or affect any agreement that comes out of these negotiations, apparently so does Iran.

The Iranian foreign relations minister was spot on when he called this nothing more than a bit of political propaganda from the Republican Party.

stop insulting us, NIGGER YOU DEE

 

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[Busybody]

Nothing, Obama gives them the bomb like Clinton gave the bomb to North Korea.

at least we got a basketball outa that

NO?

 

[Busybody]

TREASON!

How Barack Obama Undercut Bush Administration’s Nuclear Negotiations With Iran



In 2008, the Bush administration, along with the “six powers,” was negotiating with Iran concerning that country’s nuclear arms program. The Bush administration’s objective was to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. On July 20, 2008, the New York Times headlined: “Nuclear Talks With Iran End in a Deadlock.” What caused the talks to founder? The Times explained:


Iran responded with a written document that failed to address the main issue: international demands that it stop enriching uranium. And Iranian diplomats reiterated before the talks that they considered the issue nonnegotiable.

The Iranians held firm to their position, perhaps because they knew that help was on the way, in the form of a new president. Barack Obama had clinched the Democratic nomination on June 3. At some point either before or after that date, but prior to the election, he secretly let the Iranians know that he would be much easier to bargain with than President Bush. Michael Ledeen reported the story last year:


During his first presidential campaign in 2008, Mr. Obama used a secret back channel to Tehran to assure the mullahs that he was a friend of the Islamic Republic, and that they would be very happy with his policies. The secret channel was Ambassador William G. Miller, who served in Iran during the shah’s rule, as chief of staff for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, and as ambassador to Ukraine. Ambassador Miller has confirmed to me his conversations with Iranian leaders during the 2008 campaign.

So Obama secretly told the mullahs not to make a deal until he assumed the presidency, when they would be able to make a better agreement. Which is exactly what happened: Obama abandoned the requirement that Iran stop enriching uranium, so that Iran’s nuclear program has sped ahead over the months and years that negotiations have dragged on. When an interim agreement in the form of a “Joint Plan of Action” was announced in late 2013, Iran’s leaders exulted in the fact that the West had acknowledged its right to continue its uranium enrichment program:


“The (nuclear) program will continue and all the sanctions and violations against the Iranian nation under the pretext of the nuclear program will be removed gradually,” [Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif] added. …

“Iran’s enrichment program has been recognized both in the first step and in the goals section and in the final step as well,” Zarif said.

“The fact that all these pressures have failed to cease Iran’s enrichment program is a very important success for the Iranian nation’s resistance,” he added.

So Obama delivered the weak agreement that he had secretly promised the mullahs.

In view of these events, it is deeply ironic that the Democrats are accusing 47 Republican senators of undermining Obama’s position in the negotiations for a final agreement. Unlike Obama, they have done nothing in secret. They have published an “open letter” that is intended for the Obama administration and the American people as much as for Iran’s leaders. The letter spells out basic truths relating to our Constitution and the Senate’s role in ratifying treaties. Unlike Obama’s secret overture to Iran, the GOP senators aren’t discouraging Iran from dealing with Obama so that they can get a better deal later. On the contrary, their letter strengthens Obama’s bargaining position. He can say, “Even if I wanted to, I can’t give in on nuclear enrichment. It would never get through the Senate.” But of course, that isn’t what Obama wants to do. He wants to agree to a weak deal that will allow Iran to become a nuclear power. The Democrats are upset because the senators’ letter shines the light of truth on the Obama administration’s plan to give away the store.

 

[Busybody]

the 47 patriots did the same

we will not live u to any agreement

 

[Ulaven_Demorte]

Nothing, Obama gives them the bomb like Clinton gave the bomb to North Korea.

North Korea had a nuclear program long before Clinton ever considered running for President. In 1956 the USSR started training North Korean Scientists, giving them basic knowledge in initiating a nuclear program. The U.S. Response was to put honest John missiles and 280mm atomic cannons on the South Korean border in 1958.

Their nuclear program can bet raced back to as early as 1962. The nuclear weapons program dates back to the 1980's, still prior to Clinton's Presidency.

North Koreans nuclear program was monitored and watched by the UN and the IAEA until 2002 when the framework governing North Korea's nuclear program fell apart. This of course ha nothing to do with President Bush naming them part of "The Axis of Evil"....
They tested a device in 2006, and announced in 2007 that they in fact were in possession of nuclear weapons. In 2009 North Korea conducted a second nuclear test and were named a "full fledged nuclear power".

So, started long before Clinton, and the agreement negotiated to halt their program fell apart after Clinton. But you refuse to place blame where it actually belongs.

You seem to know as much (or little) about this subject as most of the others you spew nonsense about.

 

[Busybody]

North Korea had a nuclear program long before Clinton ever considered running for President. In 1956 the USSR started training North Korean Scientists, giving them basic knowledge in initiating a nuclear program. The U.S. Response was to put honest John missiles and 280mm atomic cannons on the South Korean border in 1958.

Their nuclear program can bet raced back to as early as 1962. The nuclear weapons program dates back to the 1980's, still prior to Clinton's Presidency.

North Koreans nuclear program was monitored and watched by the UN and the IAEA until 2002 when the framework governing North Korea's nuclear program fell apart. This of course ha nothing to do with President Bush naming them part of "The Axis of Evil"....
They tested a device in 2006, and announced in 2007 that they in fact were in possession of nuclear weapons. In 2009 North Korea conducted a second nuclear test and were named a "full fledged nuclear power".

So, started long before Clinton, and the agreement negotiated to halt their program fell apart after Clinton. But you refuse to place blame where it actually belongs.

You seem to know as much (or little) about this subject as most of the others you spew nonsense about.

then WAHT was the point of the talks between ClitMan and NK?

and the "agreements" signed?

tell us NIGGER YOU DEE

We'll wait

 

[RjThoughts]

Let's end this thread with the correct answer:

NO! She and the others in the delegation had State Department okay.


*mic drop*

 

[Busybody]

Let's end this thread with the correct answer:

NO! She and the others in the delegation had State Department okay.


*mic drop*

you made that up.....

 

[cowslinger64]

This was covered in forestdumps thread on the other politics board...lets see how well you shuck and jive.

It was already covered by me in this thread and disproven bizzydummy.

 

[RjThoughts]

It was already covered by me in this thread and disproven bizzydummy.

Some people just can't handle the truth when it doesn't follow their version of reality.

Fortunately, their psychoses are covered by the ACA.

 

[Sean Renaud]

My history is a bit janky. North Korea nuked South Korea WHEN exactly?

 

[Busybody]

Let's end this thread with the correct answer:

NO! She and the others in the delegation had State Department okay.


*mic drop*

Pelosi Meets Syrian President Despite Objections From Bush

By Anthony Shadid
Washington Post Foreign Service
Thursday, April 5, 2007

BEIRUT, April 4 -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Syria's president in a hilltop palace in Damascus on Wednesday in a visit that came despite the Bush administration's objections and appeared to underline Syria's gradual emergence from years of international isolation.

 

[Busybody]

Let's end this thread with the correct answer:

NO! She and the others in the delegation had State Department okay.


*mic drop*

link please

IF YOU CAN MAKE IT UP FAST ENOUGH

 

[sr71plt]

My history is a bit janky. North Korea nuked South Korea WHEN exactly?

Next Tuesday at 3:00 p.m. Mountain Time--or so I've heard.

 

[Busybody]

link please

IF YOU CAN MAKE IT UP FAST ENOUGH

 

[cowslinger64]

NO! She and the others in the delegation had State Department okay.


*mic drop*
link please

IF YOU CAN MAKE IT UP FAST ENOUGH


the link is on the first page of this thread..jeezus your stupidity is annoying



http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=65976327&postcount=4

 

[Busybody]

NO! She and the others in the delegation had State Department okay.


*mic drop*
link please

IF YOU CAN MAKE IT UP FAST ENOUGH


the link is on the first page of this thread..jeezus your stupidity is annoying



http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=65976327&postcount=4

had State Department okay.

is NOT the same as State knew

and Bushco objected....but we all know YOU NIGGERS stick together