Discusion of feminism

[sweetnpetite]

perdita, I like your av that shows your face and your glasses.

What's with the feet?

 

[Xelebes]

What - and that's the last time she has a say in her life?

Inspires me to matrimony.

Exactly.

 

[Xelebes]

You don't care if the man is an abuser of women? Oh, of course, you're a man, aren't you. That would also mean that you don't care if he abuses the children as well, because wife beaters don't just beat on their wives, they also beat their children, sometimes killing them. But then you don't care, do you.

DS

Once they bloody their hands, I'm quite sure they have to repent in some manner. (I do stand for tougher sentencing here.)

 

[sweetnpetite]

conciousness in the individual is essentially in a state of anarchy
we are free to do anything but must face consequence

the consequence of beating your wife is that she leaves you

the consequence of you killing your/her children is that she kills you

the consequences of you killing her is that her best friend or a family member kills you

I'm on board with the anarchy thing

Best be careful not to do anything that wouldn't get you killed, but that would get your parts snipped

 

[sweetnpetite]

Exactly.

no not exactly.

I was being sarcastic.

women are not property for men to do with as they please.

we do not give up our rights when/if we marry.

we do not give up our brains and we do not give up our say in our own lives.

the very idea makes me want to vomit.

 

[Dirty Slut]

Once they bloody their hands, I'm quite sure they have to repent in some manner. (I do stand for tougher sentencing here.)

I see, that statement must mean that you live in the land of Oz.

DS

 

[Xelebes]

no not exactly.

I was being sarcastic.

women are not property for men to do with as they please.

we do not give up our rights when/if we marry.

we do not give up our brains and we do not give up our say in our own lives.

the very idea makes me want to vomit.

I was insinuating if you don't like it, don't get married. But, something just dawned upon, adultery can get you a divorce. Just some bukkake is in order (or if it is the guy who does it... gets his balls crushed.)

By now, I hope you have realised I was merely trolling since I really cannot stand politics and have given you the reason why.

 

[Dirty Slut]

I was insinuating if you don't like it, don't get married. But, something just dawned upon, adultery can get you a divorce. Just some bukkake is in order (or if it is the guy who does it... gets his balls crushed.)

By now, I hope you have realised I was merely trolling since I really cannot stand politics and have given you the reason why.

A male troll, how original.

DS

 

[Xelebes]

A male troll, how original.

DS

Want me to bring my sister in this? She's a whole lot worse. Don't worry, I'm having a bitter night....

 

[sweetnpetite]

Want me to bring my sister in this? She's a whole lot worse. Don't worry, I'm having a bitter night....

wore politically or worse troll wize?

You said that you where from a small town, so she would probably have to ask her husband what to type anyway, and since that would be you, i see no point in dragging her out of the doggs bed to get her oppinion.






sorry, just trolling

 

[5extant]

Unfortunately the outer universe has a force beyond our volition THis can be seen in the forces of nature in varying degrees. inanimate nature probably holding the highest terrors

 

[Xelebes]

wore politically or worse troll wize?

You said that you where from a small town, so she would probably have to ask her husband what to type anyway, and since that would be you, i see no point in dragging her out of the doggs bed to get her oppinion.






sorry, just trolling

Hmm... interesting insult. Never heard that one before. Had a chuckle out of it.

Yeah... just trolling since she is actually quite incapable of having political discussions. She'd rather deliver bruising blows to my other brother's arm.

(Edmonton has a pop of 1 million... I've lived in a small village for two years. I was using the term "small town" to go about on my little trolling escapade.)

I was feeling trolly... so... I'm outta this one... until I can make an actual valid point. (Don't count on it.) I should get some rest though...

 

[Black Tulip]

I've been off line for more than a week and I just finished reading this thread.

I'd say the discussion so far proved the necessity of feminism. But my impression is that equality in the States is a lot better than in Europe, at least my part of it.

I'll try not to get too mad, but I do have to react.

Maybe I am part of the old feminist movement but:
I remember when I was not allowed into the pensionfund because I would marry eventually.
I remember job interviews where the first questions were: are you married? are you planning to get married? are you planning to get children in the near future?
I remember needing the union to help me get my long term contract because I was pregnant and not married.
I remember going out in the streets to claim my right to govern my own body.
I remember going out in the streets to claim my right to walk safely through town after dark.

I have earned my own bread for more than 30 years and in all those years I have encountered

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male colleague who went home early because of the kids. And guess what: the other men called him a softy behind his back.

I'm almost happy to read some people stating feminism is no longer neccessary. But it's very sad that there are still people who do not see the need to keep fighting for equality.
And yes, that goes for all. Not just women.

So how about calling it emancipation instead. In Holland that is the term that more or less replaced feminism.

Merriam-Webster Dictionary:
1 : to free from restraint, control, or the power of another; especially : to free from bondage
2 : to release from paternal care and responsibility and make sui juris
3 : to free from any controlling influence (as traditional mores or beliefs)

Amen.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Maybe I am part of the old feminist movement but:
I remember job interviews where the first questions were: are you married? are you planning to get married? are you planning to get children in the near future?

When was this? Last week?

 

[Uther_Pendragon]

I posted this under Feminazi, but I think the name might have turned off anyone interested in the topic. Since I can't change the name of a thread, I thought I'd try again.




1. Are you a feminist? Why or why not?

Wrong sex.

3. Do you think that there is still a need for feminism in this day and age?

Definitely yes.

6. What do you think of the term feminazi?

It was coined by a drug addict who was afraid to deal with the issues, so chose to call names instead.

that should get us started. Answer any or all that you wish

 

[OldnotDead]

I've been off line for more than a week and I just finished reading this thread.

I have earned my own bread for more than 30 years and in all those years I have encountered

1

male colleague who went home early because of the kids. And guess what: the other men called him a softy behind his back.

Amen.

Hello, BT, and welcome to Lit,

The phrase here in the States that is most often used is Pussy Whipped

Now that I work at home, I no longer go home early, but I've been called that on a number of occasions. I don't think it was warranted when my son had a double compound fracture in his rright leg and required a helicopter flight to a trauma center and two surgeries just to be discharged from the hospital.

But it probably WAS warranted the time I left early because my wife called shrieking on the phone and all I really understood was 'baby' and 'badly cut' and I hightailed it out of work. Then I got home and found out that my three year old had played barber with his sister and she looked like a very badly treated baby doll.

So now you know TWO.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Atleast Pussy Whipped men get pussy...

 

[Black Tulip]

Hello, BT, and welcome to Lit,

The phrase here in the States that is most often used is Pussy Whipped

Now that I work at home, I no longer go home early, but I've been called that on a number of occasions. I don't think it was warranted when my son had a double compound fracture in his rright leg and required a helicopter flight to a trauma center and two surgeries just to be discharged from the hospital.

But it probably WAS warranted the time I left early because my wife called shrieking on the phone and all I really understood was 'baby' and 'badly cut' and I hightailed it out of work. Then I got home and found out that my three year old had played barber with his sister and she looked like a very badly treated baby doll.

So now you know TWO.

Very pleased to meet you sir.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Atleast Pussy Whipped men get pussy...

I always thought that being pussy whipped would be something a guy would be proud of- "Hell yeah, I'll do ANYTHING to get some!"

ps. svenskaflicka, your mailbox is full.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I don't think it was warented either time.

The only thing that might be warented would be to call your wife a bit of an overreactive.

Its stupid to think that taking care of your kids is 'pussy whipped' at any time. It just goes to show how childish most men are to even call another man that. As the cop in 'It could happen to you" said, "I'm not whipped, I'm an adult with adult responsibilies" I really admire a man who doesn't bow down to namecalling.

Good for you, for taking care of your responsibilies.

Hello, BT, and welcome to Lit,

The phrase here in the States that is most often used is Pussy Whipped

Now that I work at home, I no longer go home early, but I've been called that on a number of occasions. I don't think it was warranted when my son had a double compound fracture in his rright leg and required a helicopter flight to a trauma center and two surgeries just to be discharged from the hospital.

But it probably WAS warranted the time I left early because my wife called shrieking on the phone and all I really understood was 'baby' and 'badly cut' and I hightailed it out of work. Then I got home and found out that my three year old had played barber with his sister and she looked like a very badly treated baby doll.

So now you know TWO.

 

[Seattle Zack]

To be honest, I haven't noticed any inequality or bias in the workplace, at least not in the industry where I work. Most of the tech writers that I work with are women, and more than half of the twenty or so managers/supervisors in my department are women.

One guy I know whose wife recently got promoted changed to swing shift, so he could take care of the kids while she pursued her career. She's definitely more ambitious than he is, and he welcomed the opportunity to have time during the day to take classes on website design. No one thought anything strange about it, or derided him in any way.

I do live in the Emerald City, as snp so derisively pointed out, and we're a pretty enlightened and progressive bunch up here, so it could be that my experiences aren't typical. Perhaps it's the relative youth and competitive nature of the high-tech industry, but performance and ability are valued above anything else.

In my department there are dozens of openly gay workers, and several transgendered individuals. The pay scale is based entirely on measurable performance, not gender or sexual preference.

There's no "old boys" network where I work -- the oldest people in my department are a 52-year old lesbian who was hired because she knew COBOL and a 57-year old systems administrator with dozens of tatoos who owns three Harleys. Both of them are as anti-establishment as they come.

Just my experience; I would imagine that living in the Midwest or in the Bible Belt is probably quite different. One of the many reasons I don't live there.