Disturbing trend?

[Zeb_Carter]

A schitzophrenic (with the papers to prove it), experimental punk rock/spoken word artist.

Neither you or Cloudy asked me for a sane artist, just a rap song writen and sung(spoken). So there it is.

 

[AlecBond]

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[JamesSD]

My newest revelation:

Most 13 year olds in show buisiness are creepy, period.

13 year olds who spout ANY political rhetoric are also creepy. Obviously they lack the life experience, education etc to have come up with and made decisions on their own about complex issues, so it becomes clear that a human being is being used as a puppet/mouthpiece for someone else.

It's related to the whole Joe Simpson/Jessica/Ashlee thing. When children are groomed by their parents to be a marketable commodity, its disturbing. When you add a political agenda? Even more so.

 

[Liar]

Neither you or Cloudy asked me for a sane artist, just a rap song writen and sung(spoken). So there it is.

See, that's the rub. Rap song?

 

[JamesSD]

The most disturbing thing about this trend is everyone getting upset because two 13 year old's don't like black people.

Solid point. I'll admit I was racist and sexist as a 13 year old boy before I became educated and learned the folleys of my ways. (I'm not saying I spouted rhetoric anything like these girls, but I didn't like black people, thought boys were smarter than girls, etc).

13 year olds say and think a lot of stupid things. But when there's clearly an adult puppetmaster pulling the strings behind the scenes it gets a whole lot darker.

 

[kendo1]

I've only read the first and last posts in this thread, but it appears to me that the girls have a following. There are US citizens who feel this way.

On the other hand, maybe they just like the music, not the lyrics.

As for Alec's post, he has a point. Should rap music be banned? Or would that upset too many people?

Pick on the white girls, bro.


Personally, I'd rather listen to Paul Simon and Ladysmith Black Mombasa.

 

[cloudy]

The most disturbing thing about this trend is everyone getting upset because two 13 year old's don't like black people.

Apparently, there are quite a few whose reading comprehension skills need work.

Read my post again...that's not what I said. It's become quite popular to ascribe feelings to me that I haven't expressed.



(eta: if it quacks like a duck, then most of the time it's a duck....and to be quite honest, you having to declare yourself "not a racist" before you say anything else, says quite the opposite to me)

 

[Liar]

Write me a check everytime I hear cracker or whitey in the same sentence as "kill" or other derogatory words in rap music, and I'll start listening.

No, I am not a racist. I am however a strong equal-opportunist, but only as long as it's stays EQUAL - which means treating each side the same.

Ah, then maybe you can do what Zeb couldn't - quote some rap song lyrics with that.

Not saying that there are none. But not by 13 year olds trying to act like God's best children.

Besides, I'll bet I'll be able to find derogatory remarks about other blacks, women, possibly gays, by whatever artist you manage to dig up. Rappers (some) are very equal opportunity that way, they're derogatory towards almost everybody.

 

[AlecBond]

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[Pure]

no,

alec, you said, The most disturbing thing about this trend is everyone getting upset because two 13 year old's don't like black people

the 'disturbing' --but highly predictable, and hence boring-- part of this thread is postings like LimbAumicus' stating that 'social liberals' have forced society to put black into TV shows and that black women have even gotten into pro tennis, and that 90% of black persons in college are there because of race quotas. that they excel at athletics but aren't so bright. Even Limbaugh, his mentor, doesn't get so crass and slimy. the point of the above, of course, was to claim that the girls expressed a real issue and grievance for beleaguered whites. another LimbAumicus lie. (since not many are buying the records, contrary to the hoax story floating about the 'net for the last month or so.)

we, of course, yawn at LimbAumicus' hate; whether it be women, black, arabs or whoever, it's the same dumb, recycled stuff you'd hear fifty years ago in some dumb southern cracker radio show like the one LimbAumicus apparently had.

 

[AlecBond]

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[AlecBond]

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[Pure]

Zeb said, and i think Alec agrees,

I see all kinds of shock and outrage over two little white girls making money on a gimmick record CD.

Yet I see no shock or outrage over all the money the self-proclaimed 'gangsta' rap artists singing, if you can call that singing, about killing whity and the man (police).

You're all a bunch of hypocrites.

I wouldn't say there's 'shock'; it's pretty tired neo nazi stuff like you see in LimbAumicus postings, routinely. It's outrageous if lots of adults are buying it, but we don't know that (the PB's are NOT on the Billboard 'top' list)

I don't think the rap lyrics are a similar issue, though apparent calls to kill rub me the wrong way. They are not similar because the rapper is playing a 'badass' role; he's striking a pose. Why do I say that? Because in real life i don't know of any rappers who have, when not in danger, taken up guns against Whitey, or shot white cops, etc. Nor do they, in general, call for race separation. (Some have white girl friends!)

The girls Lynx and Lamb Gaeda seemingly do want a 'white' nation, and in the interview, say they want a race war to get such a nation, which is to say, they envision killing a lot of Blacks and Jews and others. Some neonazis DO take action. IOW, the girls are *serious* racists, *serious* haters [if brainwashed] wanting their racism put into lethal action. None of the rappers i know about are this way.

Conclusion: there is nothing 'hypocritical' or inconsistent about condemning the girls' lyrics and being less eager to condemn the rappers' (though I do not like songs which even appear to call for killing-- some nutbar one percent is going to take it seriously, as the rapper does not, AFAIK.)

 

[Liar]

"Niggas in the...

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...taking whitey's throat";

Alrighty, thanks.

Now, which one of these fine gentlemen are trying to sell their fucked up ideas with a wholesome do gooder family appeal?

There are a bunch of agressive, loudmouthed White power punkrock bands out there too, with arian prison tattoos, shaved heads, third reich kitch and all that crap. They, like those rappers make songs that preach hate. But they do it and look the badass part.

Those kids are trying to sneak in the same hate via adorably hummable bubblegum pop. That's what's weird and noteable about it..

 

[Zeb_Carter]

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The girls Lynx and Lamb Gaeda seemingly do want a 'white' nation, and in the interview, say they want a race war to get such a nation, which is to say, they envision killing a lot of Blacks and Jews and others. Some neonazis DO take action. IOW, the girls are *serious* racists, *serious* haters [if brainwashed] wanting their racism put into lethal action. None of the rappers i know about are this way.

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And I want ice cream and blow jobs. As far as I'm concerned they are a couple of nutjobs and don't deserve the time "We" have given them.

Have you spoken to these girls? You know what they think? And how many rappers do you know?

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Alrighty, thanks.

Now, which one of these fine gentlemen are trying to sell their fucked up ideas with a wholesome do gooder family appeal?

There are a bunch of agressive, loudmouthed White power punkrock bands out there too, with arian prison tattoos, shaved heads, third reich kitch and all that crap. They, like those rappers make songs that preach hate. But they do it and look the badass part.

Those kids are trying to sneak in the same hate via adorably hummable bubblegum pop. That's what's weird and noteable about it..

Why is it so different than rap or punkrock? Why is it so noteable? Weird? It's still preaching hate no matter what. It's just designed for the audience they speak too.

 

[Pure]

note to zeb

Pure said,// The girls Lynx and Lamb Gaeda seemingly do want a 'white' nation, and in the interview, say they want a race war to get such a nation, which is to say, they envision killing a lot of Blacks and Jews and others. Some neonazis DO take action. IOW, the girls are *serious* racists, *serious* haters [if brainwashed] wanting their racism put into lethal action. None of the rappers i know about are this way.//

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Zeb said, And I want ice cream and blow jobs. As far as I'm concerned they are a couple of nutjobs and don't deserve the time "We" have given them.

Have you spoken to these girls? You know what they think?


i know a little of what the girls think from posting #60 above, by liar, of the GQ interview.

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as to rappers, i only know of some interviews, but I don't know of any who are serious 'race separatists.' or true haters of white folks.
(they marry whites, are marketed by whites, after all; they sign contracts with white people and white companies). do you know of any who are active with a Black racist or separatist agenda? who have convictions for assaulting or murdering whites?

i'm not denying the existence of black people who hate white people; i just, in general, doubt that most sucessful rappers with concert tours and records are in this category, but please show me evidence you have, on the matter.

i think some white punk groups mean their hate, as liar has pointed out.
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as to the time given them. yeah they're puppets speaking crap. but discussing their crap did bring out a bit more of amicus' vileness. (you do know he's one-eighth black, don't you? sometimes the mixed blood folks are the most extreme).

 

[TheEarl]

Why is it so different than rap or punkrock? Why is it so noteable? Weird? It's still preaching hate no matter what. It's just designed for the audience they speak too.

I think the interview that was referenced earlier on this thread has it down absolutely correctly - they're like scary clowns. Little girls are supposed to be the epitome of sweetness and light and here are these two pretty little things, who I'll bet have cute voices, talking matter-of-factly about how the Holocaust really wasn't a bad thing.

It's a perception problem. People see a rapper or metallist and they're not 100% surprised when they hear something awful. They are when it comes out of the mouths of a Mary-Kate and Ashley clone.

Alec does raise a good point though. It's a running joke in my family that it's a good thing that I've converted to Wicca. Otherwise, where would my leg-up be, considering I'm white, mid-twenties, fit, healthy and capable of working. Finally I'm a minority!

The Earl

 

[Pure]

statist that i am, i keep thinking that this isn't just dislike or avoidance, which maybe is a right. the kids are indoctrinated in the vilest of racism, holocaust denial etc. they are arguably abused. perhaps the state should apprehend them and place them with suitable parents.

 

[cloudy]

statist that i am, i keep thinking that this isn't just dislike or avoidance, which maybe is a right. the kids are indoctrinated in the vilest of racism, holocaust denial etc. they are arguably abused. perhaps the state should apprehend them and place them with suitable parents.

...but of course, we're the hypocrits for speaking out against it.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

statist that i am, i keep thinking that this isn't just dislike or avoidance, which maybe is a right. the kids are indoctrinated in the vilest of racism, holocaust denial etc. they are arguably abused. perhaps the state should apprehend them and place them with suitable parents.

That was Tuesdays "Boston Legal" episode.

 

[BreeCarter]

Why is it so different than rap or punkrock? Why is it so noteable? Weird? It's still preaching hate no matter what. It's just designed for the audience they speak too.

exactly.

 

[cloudy]

exactly.

oh, look.... a zeb clone.

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

Pure said,// The girls Lynx and Lamb Gaeda seemingly do want a 'white' nation, and in the interview, say they want a race war to get such a nation, which is to say, they envision killing a lot of Blacks and Jews and others. Some neonazis DO take action. IOW, the girls are *serious* racists, *serious* haters [if brainwashed] wanting their racism put into lethal action. None of the rappers i know about are this way.//

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Zeb said, And I want ice cream and blow jobs. As far as I'm concerned they are a couple of nutjobs and don't deserve the time "We" have given them.

Have you spoken to these girls? You know what they think?


i know a little of what the girls think from posting #60 above, by liar, of the GQ interview.

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as to rappers, i only know of some interviews, but I don't know of any who are serious 'race separatists.' or true haters of white folks.
(they marry whites, are marketed by whites, after all; they sign contracts with white people and white companies). do you know of any who are active with a Black racist or separatist agenda? who have convictions for assaulting or murdering whites?

i'm not denying the existence of black people who hate white people; i just, in general, doubt that most sucessful rappers with concert tours and records are in this category, but please show me evidence you have, on the matter.

i think some white punk groups mean their hate, as liar has pointed out.
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as to the time given them. yeah they're puppets speaking crap. but discussing their crap did bring out a bit more of amicus' vileness. (you do know he's one-eighth black, don't you? sometimes the mixed blood folks are the most extreme).

Rappers seem to be involved in quite of violence, even murder, such as of Tupac Shapur and Notorious B.I.G. Many of them carry weapons as a matter of course and/or are accompanied by armed bodyguards. Even if they don't commit violent acts, they incite others to do so.

As for the two 13 year old girls, I doubt that they have ever inflicted any injury on anybody. They may have incited some, but probably not as much as the songs? that were listed earlier.

 

[SweetPrettyAss]

Race card?

BAHAHAHAHAHA!

You're the only one I call a bigot. Sorry, but I call 'em like I see 'em.

what an ass.

Actually, Cloudy, you said that about Zeb but you have also said it about Amicus and you essentially said it about Alec Carter. If I looked through your posts, I could probably find some whee you had referred to others on this forum as bigots also.