Drunken Sex

[yui]

Earl! How could anyone be mortified to discover that they slept with you? I don't believe it!

Agreed. Sleeping with The is one of the sweetest realizations, I'm quite certain.

Realistically, Three, it would depend on the characters and their motivations. I could forgive a lot for a character that I'm sympathetic with; even those actions which cross personal lines. There are lines that we all have, but somehow, desperateness makes us weak. I would love to say I'm above it all, but in reality, I've wanted enough, at moments, to accept blindness in lieu of sight. Sad for me, but sometimes, it hurts and the smallest of tokens gives you a sad sort of peace, eh?

Luck,

Yui

 

[JMohegan]

I'm trying to gauge reader response to such a character

This is an honest response. Please don't read it if you want something PC.

If I read this in a story, I would assume you were trying to convey the idea that the sober guy in the bar scene is immature and, to at least a certain degree, unattractive to the opposite sex.

Not "reprehensible" so much as mildly pathetic. Reminiscent of the behavior of some college buddies who had trouble getting laid.

 

[3113]

This is an honest response. Please don't read it if you want something PC.

If I read this in a story, I would assume you were trying to convey the idea that the sober guy in the bar scene is immature and, to at least a certain degree, unattractive to the opposite sex.

Not "reprehensible" so much as mildly pathetic. Reminiscent of the behavior of some college buddies who had trouble getting laid.

Nothing un-PC about it. An honest response is what I was looking for and I thank you for it. It makes a lot of sense.

 

[JamesSD]

This is a good moral issue, one that in the past I struggled with a lot.

As a man, I want sex, and lots of it, with a variety of partners, at least at a biological level. Being a man is probably comparable to being a woman and ovulating all the time, in terms of sex drive.

Now, I've been in more than one situation where I was at a party, taking to an attractive, friendly girl, who was clearly at least tipsy. She also was clearly attracted to me. But for so many younger women, when sober they don't feel free to act on what they really would like to do, barring percieved societal judgement. Of course, if they drink too much, they're not capable of making a decision at all.

I've had to say no more than once to women who I really wanted, but who I felt were just too drunk to feel good about it the next day (or even remember, which would certainly hurt my male ego ) And I've also made judgement calls that she was merely tipsy, but truly wanted it. My own level of tipsiness also affects things... I drink a little I get especially horny, but if I drink a lot I just don't care anymore.

I guess the key is if the person is sober enough to give consent. People use alcohol to lower their own inhibitions. Men use it to have the courage to talk to women who might otherwise intimidate us, to make that first move. And I know women often use alcohol to make themselves bolder, braver, brasher, more willing to go after what they want.

Minimally it's a complex, shades of gray issue. Everyone knows taking advantage of a drunk girl is wrong. But unfortunately where the exact line falls isn't always crystal clear.

 

[JRaven]

I'm reminded on an email joke I got once awhile back. It was a powerpoint presentation that showed 0 beer and a pic of a really dorky guy. Then it showed 1 beer and he has all his teeth and their straight. Then, 2 beers and his big zit is gone. Until finally, it shows 12 beers and there's a picture of Mel Gibson.

Never mind the joke about the girl looking better through beer colored glasses.

Having been TiPS (Training for Intervention ProcedureS) for serving alcohol, I've learned that the first thing to go are a persons inhibitions. The second thing to go is a person's judgement. Once a person loses those two things, they can be easily convinced to hop into bed with your character. (Or me as the case might be. )

It happens a thousand times a night. If most people think of it as bad, there wouldn't be anybody in the bars looking to get laid.

Write the story. I'm looking forward to reading it.

Jenny

 

[Guest]

I agree with a previous post, that as a sober person, with a drunk person, it is un-fun and uncomfortable. Now, mildly drunk is amusing, but they woulnd't sleep with me if only mildly drunk. <botta-bing>

Drunk with drunk is normal. In fact, I'm surprised more stories on Lit of sex upon meeting, don't include more liquor. I'm sure for the writer, if the story is even quasi based upon a real life experience, booze was a factor.

It happens a thousand times a night. If most people think of it as bad, there wouldn't be anybody in the bars looking to get laid.

True.

It always fascinated me, that a much as people deride drunken sex, most of the women I met that way, were more than eager to have sex again the next morning, now cold stone sober, and eager to see me again where again the evening ended up back at my place.

Liquor may cause inhibitions and standards to drop, but it could be argued it drops them to realistic levels that allow you to meet and connect (sexually and otherwise) with someone.

I know marriages that have started from such encounters.

 

[JRaven]

Liquor may cause inhibitions and standards to drop, but it could be argued it drops them to realistic levels that allow you to meet and connect (sexually and otherwise) with someone.

Very true. I've seen guys that were too shy to ask a lady, "would you pass me the salt" when sober. But after a few, had the courage to say, "Hi, I'm Bill." I think that shyness and fear of rejection are the biggest hinderences to sober sex.

Of course, waking up nude next to somebody does kinda do away with any shyness or fear of rejection. Could be why after the drunken sex, sober sex is easier.

Jenny