Electric cars.

[wizzard426]

 

[Fuzzy1975]

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Glad you agree that reducing Carbon emissions is a worthy goal in the fight against MMCC. Your graph clearly shows that actions in in both North America and Europe are working. Still China and India need more help in reducing their emissions in the face of a growing economy and in India's case population.

 

[Philthy_Phil]

Most people can't afford multiple cars. Just one car is becoming too expensive with fragile parts, insurance, and seven year loans. So that one car must do everything: short trips, long trips, and hauling groceries, furniture, etc. Long trips in an EV can be done, but charging locations will limit the route options. Many destinations are you can't get there from here.

If you had stayed in school and didn't spend your days online, perhaps you could afford another vehicle.

 

[desecration]

Updating California's Grid For EVs May Cost Up To $20 Billion ​

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Just raise taxes on bicycle purchases...

 

[JohnnySavage]

Updating California's Grid For EVs May Cost Up To $20 Billion​

So about 20% of what we've pissed away in Ukraine.

 

[LLCox]

EV's, no thanks.

 

[desecration]

Just raise taxes on bicycle purchases...

California has a new mega-tax on buggy whips coming any day now.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

There might be a future in the manufacture of equine pooper scoopers.

 

[desecration]

We must tax the farting cows.

 

[desecration]

Ford Just Reported a Massive Loss on Every Electric Vehicle It Sold ​

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Didn't they set record sales on the backs of the gasoline-aversive?

The loudest voices didn't put any money behind their convictions?

Go figure! The clamoring of those without, usually by choices made.

 

[KeithD]

The government won't tell you, that to replace the batteries in an ElectricCar could cost upwards of $25,000.00.

When I bought my first hybrid Toyota, I was told the battery would have to be replaced in four years at astronomical cost. I'm on my third hybrid Toyota, replacing each after eight years, and never have had to change any batteries.

That said, I don't see an electric car in my future--and certainly not until recharging stations are more plentiful and ranges are extended.

 

[Greytruck]

I live in Detroit area. Motor city
There are thousands of parked ev’s that nobody wants.
I do not hardly see any charging stations either..
I often wondered why gas stations are not jumping to put charging station in..
I rarely see any ev’s on the roads around here either.
Far as I’m concerned gas power is the best

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Our chain grocery store put charging stations out on the edge of their parking lot.

I've never seen anyone charging there. Maybe in the dead of night? Embarrassment???

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Our chain grocery store put charging stations out on the edge of their parking lot.

I've never seen anyone charging there. Maybe in the dead of night? Embarrassment???

Unadulterated shame!!!

 

[wizzard426]

Our chain grocery store put charging stations out on the edge of their parking lot.

I've never seen anyone charging there. Maybe in the dead of night? Embarrassment???

It is a common phenomenon, purchasing an EV often happens once a guys wife or GF suggests that they should both date other men

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Okay.

I laughed.

I am a very bad man.

 

[Pad_Foot]

When I bought my first hybrid Toyota, I was told the battery would have to be replaced in four years at astronomical cost. I'm on my third hybrid Toyota, replacing each after eight years, and never have had to change any batteries.

That said, I don't see an electric car in my future--and certainly not until recharging stations are more plentiful and ranges are extended.

What more do you want for range???
EVS can go as far as most cars on a tank of gas
At the same time we ain’t have the sorts of cars that Europe and the rest of the world has. 50 mpg!!
30 miles for a “normal” commuting car or 60 miles is all most folks need.

 

[Bray123]

Ford Just Reported a Massive Loss on Every Electric Vehicle It Sold​

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/09/business/toyotas-hybrid-electric-vehicles.html

In contrast, Toyota is making profits on EVs. Maybe Ford should look at where they're going wrong.

 

[wizzard426]

What more do you want for range???
EVS can go as far as most cars on a tank of gas
At the same time we ain’t have the sorts of cars that Europe and the rest of the world has. 50 mpg!!
30 miles for a “normal” commuting car or 60 miles is all most folks need.

Here is the spec

1 ton in the bed, 2 tons on a trailer, 70mph average speed, 500 mile range, refueled and back on the road in 20 minutes or less.

How many others need it is irrelevant. That's my spec and for my money it's the only one that matters

What I want to see is "trying to feed the world without burning lots of oil"

Not a pretty sight

 

[KeithD]

What more do you want for range???
EVS can go as far as most cars on a tank of gas
At the same time we ain’t have the sorts of cars that Europe and the rest of the world has. 50 mpg!!
30 miles for a “normal” commuting car or 60 miles is all most folks need.

More than I've seen. I haven't looked into it as I have no intention of every buying an electric car. At my time in life, I probably won't buy another car at all.

No matter what range, I need to know I have a place to "gas" it up at what end I get to. I don't feel that assurance now.

I don't care what other people get. If I was going to look further into it I'd ask how the electricity was made that goes into these cars in considering the effect on the environment and dwindling resources.

 

[Pad_Foot]

Gas up? There’s no gas at work or home. There are electric plugs. I just use 110

 

[AlexBailey]

I saw a Tesla cop car yesterday.

Bad ass. So many of the gadgets that need to be installed in a new police vehicle already exist in a Tesla.

Maintenance is nearly zero.

No scheduled down time, cheaper fuel costs, far better performance, no emissions… It seemed odd to see a cop car that wasn’t idling with the cop standing by. It was silent.

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

NONE of this changes the OP one bit. Nor does it address the question of the hidden high operating costs of EV's.

Versus the high costs and highly visible issues (floods, heat waves, extinctions...) from the heating up of the planet due to our species releasing so much carbon into the atmosphere. We're working on recycling car batteries, that will come. The more relevant and necessary challenge is decarbonizing our species habits...