Electric cars.

[desecration]

The more relevant and necessary challenge is decarbonizing our species habits...

It's a proxy. If we want to help nature, we need fewer humans and more land for natural ecosystems.

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

It's a proxy. If we want to help nature, we need fewer humans and more land for natural ecosystems.

It's a multi pronged approach.... Yes, fewer humans, and if we don't decarbonize our atmosphere, we will accomplish fewer humans. The global south, and elsewhere, are already losing population due to natural disasters spawned by higher ocean temps...

 

[desecration]

Yes, fewer humans

Then we should focus on that before the multiple crises hit.

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

Then we should focus on that before the multiple crises hit.

Ummm... While I agree, those multiple crises are already occurring and will only get worse if we don't decarbonize. Reducing population as a first priority (how would that happen?!) will not work. Decarbonization is the top priority.

 

[desecration]

While I agree, those multiple crises are already occurring and will only get worse if we don't decarbonize.

That only tackles one of the crises. In other words, the problem remains.

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

That only tackles one of the crises. In other words, the problem remains.

I agree, my point is one has a higher priority, which doesn't mean do the next priority ONLY after the first is accomplished. Again, I'm curious how to reduce our planet's human population. Got any ideas?

Read the book The Ministry For The Future. It offers solutions to the problem of decarbonization.

 

[Akes69]

The government won't tell you, that to replace the batteries in an ElectricCar could cost upwards of $25,000.00.

That's u they pushing the public in2 buying them. Govt ppl is all about job security & FINACE FOR THEMSELVES

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

That only tackles one of the crises. In other words, the problem remains.

 

[desecration]

I agree, my point is one has a higher priority

I do not agree. Solving the problem has the highest priority; trying to treat symptoms means it will not change.

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

I do not agree. Solving the problem has the highest priority; trying to treat symptoms means it will not change.

Perhaps we're talking about solving different problems. I do not see how reducing the population without decarbonizing human activities will solve anything.

 

[desecration]

I do not see how reducing the population without decarbonizing human activities will solve anything.

Ask yourself this: if the population were lower, would there be as much carbon being emitted?

 

[TalkToMeInSB]

Ask yourself this: if the population were lower, would there be as much carbon being emitted?

Ask yourself this: How much lower would the population need to be to lower the planet's temperature? You still have not provided a solution on HOW to lower the population.

You're playing a philosophical game without a realistic solution to lower the population. Your "solution" is NOT an answer to the warming planet.

You're barking up the wrong tree buddy....

 

[JoePepsiCo]

What more do you want for range???
EVS can go as far as most cars on a tank of gas
At the same time we ain’t have the sorts of cars that Europe and the rest of the world has. 50 mpg!!
30 miles for a “normal” commuting car or 60 miles is all most folks need.

We tried, but they kept getting blown off I-70 before they could reach Wichita...

 

[JoePepsiCo]

PS - At the end of their range, is the EV owner assured that there will be a charging station?

Do you keep a stationary bike hooked to a battery (think Soylent Green) in the trunk for emergency "fill-ups?"

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Yesterday was Hemi Day.


I reckon that today is L88 day, maybe.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Tonight is alright for fighting...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Only if the libturds come to the door.


That would be the cause of a reckoning . . . .

 

[JoePepsiCo]

They would come looking for a handout, not a fight...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

Looking for a handout is how to get your ass whupped at Casa de Wat.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

Your cats laugh at that statement...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

They don't have hands.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

... and yet, they get handouts. When I lived in the country, my cats really had to earn their keep.

If nothing else, they could always dine on scorpion...

 

[Wat_Tyler]

As long as the kibble bowl is full, there are no revolts.


Just revolting Lit morons . . . .

 

[ishtat]

Electric cars as urban runabouts, taxis, city centre buses and light delivery vehicles make a lot of sense, environmentally and economically in inner cities. Not so much on longer trips, but when the range gets up to 500 miles or so, legacy auto producers are in trouble. America has two circumstances which will make adoption slower, firstly lots of cheap gas, and secondly, its major carmakers, Tesla excepted, are producing grossly overpriced poor quality EV's. Meanwhile, BYD, Geely, MG, Volvo and other Chinese car makers are producing good quality product particularly in the $12,000 to $25,000 range. That fact is a scary prospect for both European and American legacy manufacturers.

There are significant infrastructure problems to be overcome, There are not enough charging points, though Shell announced this week that they intend to install a further 200,000 - not enough but a start. EV's will also not need the enormously expensive dealer networks IC cars require.

We have an EV, a small 4 door BYD runabout, used for commuting and shopping, it probably has not been more than 125 Km on a single trip so far. Power is from rooftop solar on the house and a wall battery.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

The CCP is moving into Mexico to flood us with cheap EVs.

That's reason enough not to purchase one.