"Fair Share" and "Living Wage"

[BotanyBoy]

I've already outlined what needs to be done.

Doesn't matter if they are half-assing their attempts at stopping smuggling.

I find it hard to believe that every prison ever has half sassed it.

Far more likely reason is that it's a failed policy that doesn't work anywhere but on paper.

This is why you are morally repugnant and doomed to failure.

Me having money doesn't make your poor decisions my responsibility.

There is nothing morally repugnant about it. It's just the way it is, either they pay or it's not getting paid, it's gone so far out of control there is just no way around that. You can't stick your teen grocery sacking kid with your Ferrari bill or the bitch is getting repo'ed it's just that simple.

It's not my poor decisions it's our poor decisions and the fact that the rich are the only ones capable of paying the bill does make it their responsibility as citizens of the country with said bills.

If they dont' like it maybe they should start lobbying/supporting better candidates and put some restrictions/rules on the governments ability to spend/borrow, make it wear a helmet and knee pads at least.

They are making all these programs for you 7.50/hr parasites.

Not my problem.

THEY, you are absolutely right THEY are making this so they need to pay.

It is your problem because you're part of this country.

And I don't work for wages, I'm not a slave.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Your outlines only work without people.

 

[LadyVer]

Please tell me no one believes this bullshit. No matter what your position, you should be furious anytime a politicians says this and you should demand specifically what they mean. This is the equivalent to Nancy Pelosi saying that we had to pass Obamacare in order to find out what's in it.

 

[Ramone45]

Maybe tax law should be simplified to the extent that is becomes harder or impossible to game the system. Eliminate loopholes.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Maybe tax law should be simplified to the extent that is becomes harder or impossible to game the system. Eliminate loopholes.

That would help but lets be clear. The "loopholes" are there for reasons and most of them are not actually loopholes no matter what language we have collectively agreed upon.

A loophole is something the author didn't plan on. Most of the things we're talking about are flat out incentives. Do this, keep more of your money. So we have to have a bunch of experts do this and then we have to either trust them or be expects ourselves.

Also simple=/=better. Tic-Tac-Toe is not in anyway better than checkers or Chess.

 

[Real_American12]

I find it hard to believe that every prison ever has half sassed it.

They have no real incentive to stop it. Some of the wardens/guards even think it's good for control, like bread and circuses to keep the masses appeased.

Far more likely reason is that it's a failed policy that doesn't work anywhere but on paper.

No weak and corrupt people like you are why it fails.

There is nothing morally repugnant about it.

Holding people with more money responsible for your problems is morally repugnant.

If you screwed up and needed money to get you out of losing your car, is it the responsibility of your wealthy neighbor?

It's just the way it is, either they pay or it's not getting paid, it's gone so far out of control there is just no way around that. You can't stick your teen grocery sacking kid with your Ferrari bill or the bitch is getting repo'ed it's just that simple.

This is why you are subhuman trash.

It's not my poor decisions it's our poor decisions and the fact that the rich are the only ones capable of paying the bill does make it their responsibility as citizens of the country with said bills.

You think this way because you are a disgusting collectivist communist sack of scum

If they dont' like it maybe they should start lobbying/supporting better candidates and put some restrictions/rules on the governments ability to spend/borrow, make it wear a helmet and knee pads at least.

Horse shit, the poor are the majority. It's their votes that count at the end of the day. All the rich people's or corporation's lobbyist won't change that,

THEY, you are absolutely right THEY are making this so they need to pay.

It is your problem because you're part of this country.

And I don't work for wages, I'm not a slave.

The poor voted for these programs, one of the reason they shouldn't not have the power to vote. It's immoral for people not contributing to the budget to have a say in how it is spent.

This is what happens when you let uneducated, irrational, parasites vote.

This country can not function with an electorate made of non-white, non-land owning, non-male, with no military service.

We need voters to be comprised of white, male, land owning, veterans.

And even those must take a test to have the privilege to vote, and before each election must take a follow-up test. As well as having a voter ID. And when you vote their should be a paper printout for the polling office and the voter, like a receipt from an ATM withdraw.

"Convinced that the people are the only safe depositories of their own liberty, and that they are not safe unless enlightened to a certain degree, I have looked on our present state of liberty as a short-lived possession unless the mass of the people could be informed to a certain degree." - Thomas Jefferson

"Only informed citizens can be active participants in the decision-making process." - Joan Durrance

Your outlines only work without people.

I disagree.

A loophole is something the author didn't plan on. Most of the things we're talking about are flat out incentives.

Correct, in other words it's corruption!

 

[Sean Renaud]

No, not in other words corruption. Which really is a meaningless word.

If you think some of the guards think that drugs are a good control like bread and circuses you understand that your plan only works without people. Because a certain % of people would rather have inmates that are high and docile than sober and aggressive.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Holding people with more money responsible for your problems is morally repugnant.

No it's not, it's call society.

You're free to be free leave the horrible USA any time you want.

This is what happens when you let uneducated, irrational, parasites vote.

This country can not function with an electorate made of non-white, non-land owning, non-male, with no military service.

We need voters to be comprised of white, male, land owning, veterans.

And even those must take a test to have the privilege to vote, and before each election must take a follow-up test. As well as having a voter ID. And when you vote their should be a paper printout for the polling office and the voter, like a receipt from an ATM withdraw.
!

LOL good luck with that.

 

[Real_American12]

No, not in other words corruption.

Explain.

Which really is a meaningless word.

That's the problem, people live you have no morals so of course 'corruption' has no meaning to you.

If you think some of the guards think that drugs are a good control like bread and circuses you understand that your plan only works without people. Because a certain % of people would rather have inmates that are high and docile than sober and aggressive.

Running a prison with zero contraband is possible.

No it's not, it's call society.

Wrong you immoral sack of shit.

You're free to be free leave the horrible USA any time you want.

To many great men died protecting this land of freedom for me to leave it to ruination by scum like you.

You don't leave your home because of roaches, you get rid of the pests and make it unlikely for them to return, Don't leave food on the counter over night, etc.

LOL good luck with that.

It is the natural and inevitable outcome.

People like you are going to make it happen.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Running a prison with zero contraband is possible.

Except it's not, that's why it's never happened.

Wrong you immoral sack of shit.

Yet here we are.....if you even make money, you will be paying taxes for shit you hate, think is unconstitutional and the rich will foot the majority of the bills because if they don't the lights are getting cut.

GenX and Millennials will continue to socialize the US and there isn't anything you can do to stop it.

You don't leave your home because of roaches, you get rid of the pests and make it unlikely for them to return, Don't leave food on the counter over night, etc.

You are the microscopic ultra fringe minority....you're the roach.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Corruption means that it wasn't the original intent. The police force is corrupt if they are pulling people over and giving them tickets because they will get promotions or the city needs money. That's corruption.

My saying "you want a tax break? Fine you give money to charity so the government doesn't have to and I'll lower the amount you owe me." That was the intention from the word go.

Taxes are different for married people to encourage people to marry. That is the GOAL. Capital Gains taxes are lower than income taxes to encourage people to invest their money. Again, that is the goal.

 

[Real_American12]

Except it's not, that's why it's never happened.t

It is.

GenX and Millennials will continue to socialize the US and there isn't anything you can do to stop it.

They will fail, they are wimps. As soon as real men get in power they will be ignored like the simpering faggots they are.

Then they will run to their safe spaces and cry on Twitter and Tumblr... but nobody will care.

The weak can not rule the strong, the strong will always dominate the weak. Eventually the strong will tire of these entitled twats and smash their fucking teeth down their cock-sleeve throats.

You are the microscopic ultra fringe minority....you're the roach.

Wrong again pussy-boi. I'm the exterminator.

Taxes are different for married people to encourage people to marry. That is the GOAL. Capital Gains taxes are lower than income taxes to encourage people to invest their money. Again, that is the goal.

When there are exemptions built in specifically to benefit the politicians, their friends/family, or their donors, that is corruption.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It is.

I'll believe it when I see it.

They will fail, they are wimps. As soon as real men get in power they will be ignored like the simpering faggots they are.

What real men? All the Reagan/Nixon worshiping silents/boomers?LOL

That's a one way trip guy...they are almost gone and they aren't ever coming back.

Wrong again pussy-boi. I'm the exterminator.

You don't have the firepower

 

[Real_American12]

I'll believe it when I see it.

Okay.

That's a one way trip guy...they are almost gone and they aren't ever coming back.

Yeah right, the strong will not allow them selves to be destroyed by the weak.

You don't have the firepower

Puff, most of these sugar puffs could be blown down by a strong gust.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Okay.

Yeah right, the strong will not allow them selves to be destroyed by the weak.

Puff, most of these sugar puffs could be blown down by a strong gust.

The grinding wheel of time isn't weak, it's inevitable.

Your kind will largely die off in the next 20 years and the kids/grandkids who got burned by the trickle down that never showed up are going to completely abandon Reganomics....they will socialize the country further both economically and culturally.

It's ALREADY HAPPENING.

 

[Sean Renaud]

When there are exemptions built in specifically to benefit the politicians, their friends/family, or their donors, that is corruption.

I'm sure you can name an exemption like that?

 

[Real_American12]

It's ALREADY HAPPENING.

Again weak commie fags like you will not win this war.

This is all you losers can do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpLPOPe32qk

Do you think this country would be here if great men like Washington, Jefferson, Patton sat around screaming and banging pots and pans?

That's what 3 year olds do when left in the kitchen, good luck with the revolution you worthless hippies.

I'm sure you can name an exemption like that?

Dishonest fags like you are disgusting, trying to act like it's not happening.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I want to see an example is all.

 

[Real_American12]

I want to see an example is all.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...cal-corruption-is-why-our-tax-code-is-a-mess/
https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/a-picture-of-tax-code-complexity-and-corruption/

 

[BotanyBoy]

Again weak commie fags like you will not win this war.

We already have, wake up, pay your obamacare fine you know you can't afford real health care.

Do you think this country would be here if great men like Washington, Jefferson, Patton sat around screaming and banging pots and pans?

That's what 3 year olds do when left in the kitchen, good luck with the revolution you worthless hippies.

Dishonest fags like you are disgusting, trying to act like it's not happening.

Well certainly not Washington or Jefferson, they were potheads and we stoners just don't like that loud banging shit. Fat beats and smooth melodies are where it's at for us.

Patton.....maybe.

 

[Real_American12]

We already have, wake up

No you haven't.

pay your obamacare fine you know you can't afford real health care.

I choose not to be insured and I do pay the liberty tax.

Well certainly not Washington or Jefferson, they were potheads and we stoners

Patton.....maybe.

Bullshit, enjoying some herb like enjoying some whiskey doesn't make them stoner trash like you SJW babies.

You weak progressive faggots will never win the war because you have no balls.

If someone even mentions "rape" half of you will curl into the fetal position and scream.

Most of you live off Star Bucks swill, and instant soups... in a fight you pussies will last 4 seconds.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No you haven't.

I do pay the liberty tax.

That's right pay that tax...that's the flavor socialism.

https://49.media.tumblr.com/059584c7a05f8b7e2a2740d122c6798f/tumblr_mxr7mlnaOj1r2ckpzo1_400.gif

Fucking delicious.....enjoy the loss.

Bullshit, enjoying some herb like enjoying some whiskey doesn't make them stoner trash like you SJW babies.

10 out of 10 conservatives and the DEA disagree.

 

[Real_American12]

That's right pay that tax...that's the flavor socialism.

Socialism will end.

10 out of 10 conservatives and the DEA disagree.

I'm not a conservative and the DEA, ATF, and the rest of the alphabet soup of government agencies should be abolished.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Socialism will end.

All indicators say that's just not going to happen.

We like our military, we enjoy our roads, electrical grids, water treatment facilities, schools, etc.

Socialism isn't going anywhere.

I'm not a conservative

Your hypersensitivity to any thing even questioning of much less attacking them says otherwise.

All I have to do is point out socialism working and you practically lose your shit, go into full denial and just start making things up.

and the DEA, ATF, and the rest of the alphabet soup of government agencies should be abolished.

I agree.

 

[Sean Renaud]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...cal-corruption-is-why-our-tax-code-is-a-mess/
https://danieljmitchell.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/a-picture-of-tax-code-complexity-and-corruption/

Your first link doesn't prove your point at all. Your second link proves me correct. Care to try again, or maybe I missed something specific in one of these where you can point to a speicific tax break that helps those government folk?