Ferguson Neverending 2017

[ElleryQueen]

And Queen posted literally 5 white guys in 2016.

Learn to count. I posted six. And learn to read. I stopped at six because that's all that was requested of me.

Meanwhile cops shot over 250 black people in 2016.

Again, learn to read. Your source deals with all fatal encounters, not specifically shootings. Restricting ourselves to fatal shooting victims, black people accounted for 233, while white people accounted for 465. Extending to all fatal encounters with police, black people represent only 24% of 2016. I'd like to throw the numbers of white people at you and make a percentage, as well as do the same for non-fatal encounters of both races, but your source didn't bother to release those numbers or create a means for me to narrow the list of 1093 by race while I'm on my phone (because, you know, SJWs these days only care when people die, not when they're simply assaulted), but I think just the black figures alone help. As do the previous figures I supplied that prove, when adjusted for population, black people are statistically twice as likely to commit crime as white people.

Dan, if you wish to argue someone you dislike is getting owned, it helps to actually pay attention so that your declaration itself doesn't get you owned.

 

[dan_c00000]

Learn to count. I posted six. And learn to read.

That'd be learn to count.

You're getting destroyed queen absolutely destroyed. I'd really just stop posting it's kind of embarrassing. I'd suggest a rage quit like bot does.

https://nastyhobbit.org/data/media/13/you-got-owned.jpg

 

[ElleryQueen]

I'd really just stop posting it's kind of embarrassing.

Yet here you are still posting. No shame on you apparently. Then again, you can't even misrepresent statistics or our posts properly, so why should this be a surprise?

EDIT: Now that I'm on a desktop, your source has provided me more accurate figures, though not without contradictions:

Number of black people killed by police in 2016: 266 (previously claimed 258)
Percentage of people killed by police who were black: 24%
Number of white People killed by police in 2016: 574
Percentage of people killed by police who were white: 52%

Further digging:

Number of victims who were unarmed: 170
Percentage of victims who were unarmed: 16%
Number of unarmed victims who were black: 42
Percentage of unarmed victims who were black: 25%
Number of unarmed victims who were white: 95
Percentage of unarmed victims who were white: 55%

Number of victims who were female: 62
Percentage of victims who were female: 6%
Number of female victims who were black: 13
Percentage of female victims who were black: 21%
Number of female victims who were white: 42
Percentage of female victims who were white: 67%

Number of victims who were fatally tazed: 22
Percentage of victims who were fatally tazed: 2%
Number of taser victims who were black: 5
Percentage of taser victims who were black: 23%
Number of taser victims who were white: 14
Percentage of taser victims who were white: 63%

Number of victims who were fatally tazed and unarmed: 18
Percentage of victims who were fatally tazed and unarmed: 2%
Number of unarmed taser victims who were black: 4
Percentage of unarmed taser victims who were black: 22%
Number of unarmed taser victims who were white: 12
Percentage of unarmed taser victims who were white: 66%

Number of victims who were struck by a vehicle: 21
Percentage of victims who were struck by a vehicle: 2%
Number of vehicular victims who were black: 1
Percentage of vehicular victims who were black: 5%
Number of vehicular victims who were white: 18
Percentage of vehicular victims who were white: 85%

Number of victims who were struck by a vehicle and unarmed: 19
Percentage of victims who were struck by a vehicle and unarmed: 2%
Number of unarmed vehicular victims who were black: 1
Percentage of unarmed vehicular victims who were black: 5%
Number of unarmed vehicular victims who were white: 16
Percentage of unarmed vehicular victims who were white: 84%

Number of victims who were killed while in custody: 37
Percentage of victims who were killed while in custody: 3%
Number of custodial victims who were black: 10
Percentage of custodial victims who were black: 27%
Number of custodial victims who were white: 16
Percentage of custodial victims who were white: 43%

Please note that all percentages are rounded.

Again, however, no records of non-fatal confrontations from your source.

Would you like to argue with substance from now on, or are you quite content to fail at decontextualizing posts?

 

[dan_c00000]

I'm getting my asshole ruined so I make walls of text.

You provided a lot of info (the Guardian did your homework for you FYI).

You did leave out one interesting stat though.

The Post found that 34 percent of the unarmed people killed in 2016 were black males, which is quite disproportionate since black men make up only 6 percent of the U.S. population.

 

[ElleryQueen]

You provided a lot of info (the Guardian did your homework for you FYI).

Yes, it's called "using your opponent's weapon against it." If you had an ounce of thought in your head, you'd have heard of this strategy.

What's the bottom line: No matter the methods, the reasons, or the breakdowns, white people die more often during encounters with police. Something your own source proved.

The Post found that 34 percent of the unarmed people killed in 2016 were black males, which is quite disproportionate since black men make up only 6 percent of the U.S. population.

The Huffington Post also created a few contradictions: Its first source, The Guardian, established that the percentage of unarmed fatally shot people who were black males was 28% while its second source, The Washington Post, claimed 34%, amounting to a 6% gap between similar sources' analysis of the same information. The Washington Post also claimed there were 963 fatal shooting victims while The Guardian insists there were 1011, leaving a difference of 48 victims between two sources supposedly using the same information. Additionally, The Washington Post represents that of those 963, 48 were unarmed, 16 of which were black males and 20 of which were white males. As such, even The Washington Post admits that 41% of unarmed fatal shooting victims were white males, representing 7% more of The Washington Post's statistic than black males. Going back to The Guardian's 1011, the number of unarmed fatal shootings was 103, 29 of which were black males and 43 of which were white males. Thus, The Guardian's statistics also say that white males comprise 41% of unarmed fatal shootings, representing 13% more of its statistic than black males.

I'll next double down and represent the unarmed women who were fatally shot. According to The Washington Post, among the 48 fatal shootings of unarmed individuals, 1 was a black woman and 2 were white women. On the other hand, The Guardian states that among the 103 fatal shootings of unarmed individuals, 1 was a black woman and 10 were white women. Do you still need percentages for that? If so, then The Washington Post's statistics prove black women account for 2% of unarmed fatal shooting victims while white women account for 4% of the same statistic, and The Guardian's prove black women account for less than 1% compared to 9% of white women.

Let's also remember that black people - no matter gender, armed status, or age - comprise roughly 28% of the crime rate, something else that is quite disproportionate since they make up approximately 13% of the population.

And that no matter how many times that last one is explained to you, you can't wrap your head around it, even though you just used that same disproportion to argue how egregiously black people represent every other statistic.

So please, continue failing basic math, providing sources that contradict themselves, and fail to spin them in your favor while you live in your delusions.

 

[urguyscott]

I can tell that the fools who are pro gangster on here do not live in neighborhoods run by gangs or have ever been on a ride along with a police officer. Like Monday night quarterbacks sitting in the protection of their walled in homes, protected by the very police they say they hate they quote other pro criminals who quote figures without knowing the human factor of each number.

If you go along with a police officer you will find 90% of the time like in the military, things are quiet and even boring. But then that 10 percent charges you like a bull and you have to make split second decisions. The fools who are quoting pro leftist or pro criminal reports should be put in such a situation at least once in their life.

And as far as your concern about African Americans, why aren't you up in arms against the mayor of Chicago and his turning that city into a death camp for black Americans? And the other cities that give criminals more rights than citizens? I'll tell you why. Like Obama and his Democratic Party you don't really care. Look at what the Clinton's did to Haiti. Turned it into their private plantation and the people suffer. But you see nothing wrong with that. No protect the shooters of babies, don't arrest drug dealers selling dope to our children, let gangs run business out of town and turn cities into cities like Detroit, Chicago and Washington D.C. But don't lift a finger to help African Americans, or any American regardless of race, creed, religion or political party.

All police shooting are investigated. Do they do that in Cuba, China or Russia? Do they do that in any socialized or fascist country? No. Some cops like the former head of the FBI and the last two Federal AG's and the former sheriffs of Los Angels, San Diego and Orange County in California are dirty cops. On purpose. But others who have to make a split second decision of life and death error in judgement. And they get punished for it. If the investigation shows that under the circumstances and the behavior of the suspect was such that they felt there was a threat to public or them, then if may be called justified, but if you have ever talked to an officer who has had to shoot someone they are like any person with a love of life. They carry it inside wishing they could have done something different, if only the suspect hadn't come at them or been a threat or obeyed orders.

Why are there more African Americans in prison. Could it be they are there because they committed crimes? Most criminals are racists pigs, especially if they belong to a street gang. That is what gangs are based on. Race and hate. White gangs, Asian gangs, Latin gangs, black gangs are all the same. Crap. Why are African American families more one parent families than others? Does the fact that many families are missing a father or mother figure cause unrest for the children? Let's see figures on that.

The politicians have kept the blacks as "group slaves" mostly by the same party that kept them as slaves in the past. They promise everything and deliver nothing. They use them as a block vote, just as they use other "groups". It is time not only African Americans, but all Americans take back their country from the far left and progressives fascists and drive out gangs and drug dealers backed by these politicians. Believe it or not we do not need Black Entertainment Networks, Black Colleges, Black Political Groups in our legislatures. The Constitution of the United States says that slavery is over, segregation is over and people who force people, especially their own people and families into such things are in violation of the law and should be punished.

Like the Swamp Rats in Washington who have been in power in both parties for ages and do nothing but cause everything, the people on here who cry and whine without wanting to correct the problems and protect the people it is time for them to go. The establishment has failed, the last eight years show that. Time for a new group of people who believe in the Constitution and run the country like a business and not as a way to fatten their own pockets to take over.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Obama did quite well over the last 8 years. Certainly better than the moron who preceded him. The US economy is doing very well after his 8 years in office. Only real complainers about the Obama regime are those who just don't like having a black president. And certainly not a black Democrat president. That is just too much for them to handle.

 

[Trumpire]

I wasn't talking to you so why should I care what you think, Trumpista! I have BB on iggy so can't PM him. But can read his posts so I can yank his dumbass chain occasionally. If you don't like what I have to say then use ignore. Otherwise GFY.

Why should you care what I say? I never said you should, & think if anything, you should care more about proper punctuation when expressing yourself so anyone who cares what you say can comprehend it.

Then again, you obviously care about something regarding me, since you still give me suggestions on what to do, including to GFM since you can't CFM.

 

[urguyscott]

Obama did quite well over the last 8 years. Certainly better than the moron who preceded him. The US economy is doing very well after his 8 years in office. Only real complainers about the Obama regime are those who just don't like having a black president. And certainly not a black Democrat president. That is just too much for them to handle.

Leave it to a leftist to be a racist pig. You think just because President Obama is black he should not be held responsible for anything he did or for what he failed to do? That is an excuse? That is racist crap. Race, sex, religion of a person elected to office does not matter. He is an American and his duty was to protect us not the dictators of the world. To serve the people, not the drug dealers, gangsters and illegals.

Obama sent over 40 FBI agents to the city to try and find something that was done illegal. All they found was that the police did their job. The gangsters from Chicago, etc. bused in thugs to riot and throw fire bombs and shoot at the police and citizens of the city. They were not there to protest anything, but to do as much damage they could to the city and the citizens. Videos and witness statements backed the police up. The president made racists statements, the press lied as usual about the facts and the the good Reverends from Chicago sent their paid thugs to cause as much trouble as they could all for nothing.

The figures here are from such questionable left winger sources as Huffington Post etc. Might as well come from the desk of Joseph Goebbels. And no one even tries to explain why the Black gangs and Latin gangs are so big and who backs them. I know at least three young people who were forced to join gangs. No choice. Are the leftist on here going to try and do something so that this doesn't happen over and over? No They say that we should not arrest or try anyone who breaks the law if they are backed by the left or the Democrats. After all most of the Democrats would not be in office if criminals, the dead and the illegals couldn't vote for them.

Instead of trying to come up with ways to combat the gangs and drug lords (who now have legal rights in many Democratic states to push their drugs) they just harp on people being put into prison for their crimes and try to excuse any fool who goes up against a cop who carries a gun and has a right to protect him or herself and the citizens. And the people they try to excuse are of one or two races only or one religion only or one sex, which makes these left wingers racist and sexist as well as pro criminal.

If you care about human life and if you care as you say about African Americans then rise up, resist and protest against leaders such as the Mayor of Chicago, etc. who see nothing wrong with thousands of African Americans being shot each year.

 

[Trumpire]

Leave it to a leftist to be a racist pig. You think just because President Obama is black he should not be held responsible for anything he did or for what he failed to do? That is an excuse? That is racist crap. Race, sex, religion of a person elected to office does not matter. He is an American and his duty was to protect us not the dictators of the world.

This is all you need, & the rest matters not... Right now, anyway.

I see myself surrounded on the local affiliates of the national networks by stories of local drug issues & the like... It doesn't matter, IMO, as anything a local Mayor does can be negated if the President takes action in the opposite direction...

Your final sentence is true of Trump, yet he seems to knowingly do the exact opposite (hence him talking about great work with/on the Panama Canal & resign-ees & others from his staff guaranteed to have been contacted-by/contacting Russians.

 

[gotsnowgotslush]

Reading a recent criticism of Trump by a Australian ABC Political Editor, caused me revisit Devonte Shipman's harrassment in Jacksonville.

Trump has snaked his way through the legal system, thanks to family money. Devonte Shipman was lucky to walk away without permanent injuries, decreased intellectual capacity, and a jail record.

Trump has lived his life as a scofflaw. Is there any law that he has not broken ? Devonte Shipman is not allowed to live as a scofflaw. He is allowed to break no laws. Devonte Shipman neglected to time his walk across the road, with the pedestrian walk light. The light said do not cross, when he was halfway across.

Jacksonville, Florida has taken the abuses practiced in Ferguson, MO as an instruction manual. The laws, rules, and regulations, have been put in place, to strip money from the Jacksonville community.

At the time of Devonte Shipman's brush with the law, an "operation," was put taking place, a mile away. The police began handing out $62.50 citations for jaywalking.

Stopping cars, stopping pedestrians, and people on bicycles. Pretext for using Florida's stop and frisk law...

April 17, 2017

Officers will be focusing on the following four locations, which the Florida Department of Transportation says are dangerous areas (for pedestrians and bicycles)

103rd Street from Hillman Drive to Blanding Boulevard
Atlantic Boulevard from Cortez Road to Arlington Road
Kings Road/U.S. 23 from Interstate 95 to North Canal Street
Beach Boulevard/U.S. 90 from St. John’s Bluff Road South to South Shores Road

This week's heightened enforcement is part of the second phase of a four-month grant from the Florida Department of Transportation

At a minimum, police said, one deployment will take place per week at one of the four locations identified. At least one deployment is scheduled to take place at each location every month.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/jso-focusing-on-reducing-crashes-with-bikes-and-pedestrians

Jacksonville police department needs cash infusions, and they are running out of people to fine ?

Devonte Shipman's neighborhood is on a quiet street. Why are the two police officers watching the two young men ? Why do four police cars attend a very mild jaywalking incident, on a street not included on the duty route ?

$136.00 ticket for each car stopped, at the designated intersections, for not carrying ID.

Devonte Shipman was charged with both, though he was a pedestrian.

So that is $263.50, in citations, for crossing the street at the wrong time.

$$$$$$

Did the robbery of poor citizens, at the hands of police, stop in Ferguson ?

Michael Sances of the University of Memphis and Hye Young You of Vanderbilt University, had two major findings. Using data from more than 9,000 cities, the researchers first found that cities with larger black populations rely more on fines and court fees to raise revenue. The average collection was about $8 per person for all cities that get at least some revenue from fines and fees, but that rose to as much as $20 per person in the cities with the highest black populations. The findings persisted even after controlling for other factors, such as differences in crime rates and the size of cities.

http://occupythebronx.org/blog/141/...-for-revenue-if-they-have-more-black-residen/

Stop and frisk, in Florida-

Stop everyone! They all appear to be "suspicious"

Devonte Shipman was calm, cooperative and so was his witness.He was not drunk, or high. He had his wits about him. He was informed enough to present a defense. He recorded the incident. Two witnesses against two witnesses. The odds changed when more police cars were called to the scene of the non-event. Four police cars vs two young men. A civilian video could always be erased, altered, destroyed, "lost." Devonte Shipman's testimony, against theirs. The first police officer was quick to counter Devonte's claim that he looked both ways, to look for cars, before he crossed the road. "Two cars had right of way," the officer claimed, as the phone camera was recording. (What if there were no such two cars ? Poor neighborhood, no traffic camera, or store camera, nearby.)

Police officers in Florida have been stopping grade school children, nursing home elders, children on their way to libraries, after-school programs, and sports practice, because they appeared "suspicious."

Police officers are on edge, while on patrol. Why aggravate the hostility and division ? It is division between communities, that distracts from the division between billionaires, and everyone, else.

Hate nursed at Trump's moobs

03/24/2017

The comments Friday on WNYC’s “Brian Lehrer Show” mark a shift in how the mayor has spoken about the role of Trump's rhetoric in hate crimes in New York City and elsewhere.


http://www.politico.com/states/new-...red-is-clearly-related-to-donald-trump-110677

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article158578229.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ck-controversy-in-fla/?utm_term=.1c783c29d8cb

https://wonkette.com/619202/florida-cop-invents-own-law-in-hopes-of-arresting-black-man-for-walking

http://jacksonville.com/news/2017-0...-most-dangerous-cities-pedestrians-study-says


It is the law! But, it is a slippery law...

http://floridacyclinglaw.com/blog/archives/pedestrians-right-of-way

 

[handysr]

Reading a recent criticism of Trump by a Australian ABC Political Editor, caused me revisit Devonte Shipman's harrassment in Jacksonville.

Trump has snaked his way through the legal system, thanks to family money. Devonte Shipman was lucky to walk away without permanent injuries, decreased intellectual capacity, and a jail record.

Trump has lived his life as a scofflaw. Is there any law that he has not broken ? Devonte Shipman is not allowed to live as a scofflaw. He is allowed to break no laws. Devonte Shipman neglected to time his walk across the road, with the pedestrian walk light. The light said do not cross, when he was halfway across.

Jacksonville, Florida has taken the abuses practiced in Ferguson, MO as an instruction manual. The laws, rules, and regulations, have been put in place, to strip money from the Jacksonville community.

At the time of Devonte Shipman's brush with the law, an "operation," was put taking place, a mile away. The police began handing out $62.50 citations for jaywalking.

Stopping cars, stopping pedestrians, and people on bicycles. Pretext for using Florida's stop and frisk law...

April 17, 2017

Please start taking your pills again.
Your random rant has no place here.
This thread isn't about Your President Trump, nor Ferguson.

Yeah, cops can be assholes. Yeah, policing for profit sucks.
But no, they aren't related to this thread.

Go away and post your bullshit elsewhere.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Again... You hillbillies preppers are on your own in classifying Hitler as left wing.

No we are not, and I'm not a hillbilly prepper.

The key to left and right is, in the broadest terms, all about the economy. Right wing has a free economy, left wing controlled economy, right is private property and businesses, left is state owned property and business, right wing is nationalistice I outlook, left wing is international.

I agree.

Either left or right can be totalitarian and abusive of human rights.

How does a state with a free economy and respects private property become totalitarian and abusive of human rights?

Hard fucking thing to pull off....can't think of a single example.

The Nazis fit firmly in the right,

I agree, so what about the Nazis puts them firmly in the right?

Was it their iron fisted control over the economy?

Or the very tightly controlled private property right down to the peoples very thoughts?

they never nationalised industry or private property, unless you were a Jew, any state control that was imposed in Hitler's germany came as the war situation worsened for them, part of the war economy, same thing happened in Britain.

They were not communist no....but they were anything but free market capitalist, fans of private property, free thought of any sort. They were textbook control freak socialist.

The only "right" wing thing about them was their nationalism which isn't really distinctly right and the only people they were right of was the Soviets.

 

[urguyscott]

Soros who is in control of Clinton and Obama is and was a Nazi. He sold out his own people and wants a police state one world rule. When is the last time our police took people out into the desert and cut off their heads? When is the last time our police lined up men, women, and children like ISIS has and killed them? When is the last time our police burn someone alive or fed them to a pack of wild dogs?

"Reports and studies" from leftist so called organizations are as fake as the leftist news we see on TV. Ferguson was invaded by gangs sent from Chicago by the so called reverends, American's version of the ISIS religious leaders. Bused, paid and sent to burn buildings and cars and attack police and honest citizens. Even the Obama SS, our FBI under their fine leader could not fake any evidence against the police in Ferguson.

By the way look at the Nazi and Communists agendas and you will see there is not a dimes difference between them. Stalin and Hitler were just two "street gangster" type leaders who both wanted the same thing and made love to each other till one thought he was more powerful than the other. In both the State owns everything, the elite party members get rich and all others are slaves of the state.

Do you know where "right" and "left" came from? The French revolution. The table was curved where the extremists of both sides nearly touched each other. And if you look at history you will see that Kings and Emperors are the same as far as their agenda's as a Nazi Leader or a Communists Commissar. Two class system of rule with the elite being there by divine right and should be worshiped by their followers as gods. The only difference between the three groups is what they rename themselves every 50 years or so.

But this is about Ferguson and like the "Russia" bit is just a big pile of steer manure for the left to roll in with their crying and lying. You know what would be real justice? If all you leftist had to live in North Korea or Syria or Iran or China or Cuba under their wonderful police force. Here is some raw meat to put around your necks and dare you to call the beloved leader there abusive. Oh look, there is a poster you can take as a reminder of your visit. (Try telling his parents that our police are worst than the leftist.)

 

[Trumpire]

Soros who is in control of Clinton and Obama is and was a Nazi.

Regardless of first name or genders, nobody with the surname of Clinton nor Obama is leading nor representing America anywhere right now. Also, Bill & Hil, Barack, & Michelle are all adults who have held power positions many places, so nobody is in control of them but themselves.

I didn't BS (bother even scanning) the rest of your BS.

 

[Hypoxia]

Soros who is in control of Clinton and Obama is and was a Nazi.

Was George Soros an SS Officer in Nazi Germany?

A viral image purportedly showing a young George Soros in a Nazi SS uniform actually depicts an Auschwitz guard named Oskar Groening.

Sorry your alt.reality isn't working for you.

BTW in this reality Russia is waging war against the US -- military attacks. USAnians supporting Russia commit treason. Dance with the hangman, hey?

 

[Trumpire]

Was George Soros an SS Officer in Nazi Germany? Sorry your alt.reality isn't working for you.

BTW in this reality Russia is waging war against the US

Yours isn't working either. They're not waging war b/c they picked our leader.

 

[Hypoxia]

Yours isn't working either. They're not waging war b/c they picked our leader.

In mid-February the Russian defense minister declared that "Russia is waging war against the West" (which includes USA, hey?) using "information troops". Russia is running military attacks on the US. That is war. That is the current reality.

EDIT: BTW this is my post # 12345. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[BotanyBoy]

BTW in this reality Russia is waging war against the US -- military attacks.

LOL.....since when?

 

[Trumpire]

In mid-February the Russian defense minister declared that "Russia is waging war against the West" (which includes USA, hey?) using "information troops". Russia is running military attacks on the US. That is war. That is the current reality.

Russian government also fought against Russian women calling themselves "Pussy Riot", in addition to (allegedly) having someone pay for women to relieve themselves in front of the leader of ours they helped to elect.

Also, yes, the US is West of Russia... But as far as I know, an explorer 500 years ago proved anywhere is West of anyplace else eventually.

 

[Hypoxia]

Also, yes, the US is West of Russia... But as far as I know, an explorer 500 years ago proved anywhere is West of anyplace else eventually.

I will say this v-e-r-y . s-l-o-w-l-y:

WEST refers to the grouping of 'western' nations including Europe and much of the Anglosphere, nations sometimes referred to as "liberal democracies", nations that have opposed Soviet and Russian expansionism. Russia has been and continues attacking the political structures of 'Western' nations. Russia is at war with these nations, as their defense minister declared. Ciao.

 

[Trumpire]

I will say this v-e-r-y . s-l-o-w-l-y:

WEST refers to the grouping of 'western' nations including Europe and much of the Anglosphere, nations sometimes referred to as "liberal democracies", nations that have opposed Soviet and Russian expansionism. Russia has been and continues attacking the political structures of 'Western' nations. Russia is at war with these nations, as their defense minister declared. Ciao.

Ciao down on this... What I wrote you quoted already answered/replied-to that.

No need to say anything s-l-o-w-l-y when it is all B-S &/or worth 0.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Soros was a collaborator, but he was also very young at the time: http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=43876

This is the relevant portion of the transcript (from the 20 December 1998 broadcast of 60 Minutes):


Quote:
KROFT: (Voiceover) To understand the complexities and contradictions in his personality, you have to go back to the very beginning: to Budapest, where George Soros was born 68 years ago to parents who were wealthy, well-educated and Jewish.

When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

(Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)

KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros' friends and neighbors.

(Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) You're a Hungarian Jew...

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

KROFT: (Voiceover) ...who escaped the Holocaust...

(Vintage footage of women walking by train)

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

(Vintage footage of people getting on train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) ... by -- by posing as a Christian.

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.

(Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)

KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and -- and anticipate events and when -- when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a -- a very personal experience of evil.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that's -- that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not -- not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't -- you don't see the connection. But it was -- it created no -- no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c -- I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was -- well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets -- that if I weren't there -- of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would -- would -- would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the -- whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the -- I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

 

[magicalmoments]

Soros who is in control of Clinton and Obama is and was a Nazi. He sold out his own people and wants a police state one world rule. When is the last time our police took people out into the desert and cut off their heads? When is the last time our police lined up men, women, and children like ISIS has and killed them? When is the last time our police burn someone alive or fed them to a pack of wild dogs?

"Reports and studies" from leftist so called organizations are as fake as the leftist news we see on TV. Ferguson was invaded by gangs sent from Chicago by the so called reverends, American's version of the ISIS religious leaders. Bused, paid and sent to burn buildings and cars and attack police and honest citizens. Even the Obama SS, our FBI under their fine leader could not fake any evidence against the police in Ferguson.

By the way look at the Nazi and Communists agendas and you will see there is not a dimes difference between them. Stalin and Hitler were just two "street gangster" type leaders who both wanted the same thing and made love to each other till one thought he was more powerful than the other. In both the State owns everything, the elite party members get rich and all others are slaves of the state.

Do you know where "right" and "left" came from? The French revolution. The table was curved where the extremists of both sides nearly touched each other. And if you look at history you will see that Kings and Emperors are the same as far as their agenda's as a Nazi Leader or a Communists Commissar. Two class system of rule with the elite being there by divine right and should be worshiped by their followers as gods. The only difference between the three groups is what they rename themselves every 50 years or so.

But this is about Ferguson and like the "Russia" bit is just a big pile of steer manure for the left to roll in with their crying and lying. You know what would be real justice? If all you leftist had to live in North Korea or Syria or Iran or China or Cuba under their wonderful police force. Here is some raw meat to put around your necks and dare you to call the beloved leader there abusive. Oh look, there is a poster you can take as a reminder of your visit. (Try telling his parents that our police are worst than the leftist.)

Most of the above is opinion, not fact.
Some of these assertions are extreme and need sources cited if they're not to be regarded as ranting.

I do agree Hitler and Stalin were birds of a feather, the major difference was Tha Hitler's genocide was race based whereas Stalin's was political.

I disagree over your assertion that they were both state controlled societies. The ussr yes, no argument but Hitler's Germany, emergency war regulations being the exception, was fundamentally a private enterprises open economy.

 

[magicalmoments]

Ciao down on this... What I wrote you quoted already answered/replied-to that.

No need to say anything s-l-o-w-l-y when it is all B-S &/or worth 0.

Ciao = farewell in Italian
Chow = food, eating