For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[Celand]

After all this, why don't the Russians overthrow Putin?

Is it just because no one wants to be first to try to bell the cat?

He has 80 % support... only if somebody were to " whack" him, but then you likely get " Little Bear" ( Medvedev) and next to Medvedev, Putin is a real " peacenik" ...

 

[ChloeTzang]

Over the first days of June this year we saw a major escalation of this war. Amid massive Russian strikes by attack UAVs, ballistic- and cruise missiles all over Ukraine - many of these being terrorist attacks targeting apartment buildings, and thus civilians - on 1 June, Ukraine hit back at Russia’s bomber fleet. One can discuss the effects and count the number of bombers involved any way you like, but the fact is that in the only attack involving bombers flown since then (on 6 June), the Russians were able to scratch together only five operational Tu-95MS’, and had to ‘reinforce’ these with two Tu-160s (both were releasing Kh-101 cruise missiles).

In turn, the Ukrainians continued their campaign of strikes by attack UAVs and long-range land-attack missiles on factories of the Russian defence sector. Over the last two weeks, they’ve devastated a factory making computer chips, a factory making attack UAVs, a factory manufacturing rocket motors for ballistic missiles, the Kirstall fuel depot at Engels-2 Air Base (Saratov), the largest UAV factory in Russia (Kronshtat JSC), a Swiss-owned EuroChem fertilizer factoryy, and the NAK Azot factories in Novomoskovsk… ast night the Ukrainians also hit the Kazan Gunpowder Factory (manufacturing explosives for Iskander ballistic missiles, Kalibr cruise missiles, and artillery shells), and the Ukrainians also launched one or two attacks by UAVs hidden in train wagons to destroy two trains carrying dozens of armoured vehicles for the Russian army.

Additionally, in the Klintsi area (outside Bryansk) the Ukrainians have managed to hit at least one transporter-erector-launcher (TEL) for Iskander ballistic missiles (killing Lieutenant-Colonel Oleg Nystrov, battalion commander of the 26th Missile Brigade and eight others in the process) ‘in the field’; plus, possibly another Iskander TEL at Bryansk Air Base (the Russians are reporting a ‘helicopter’ as hit, but that thingy blew up ‘like an ammunition depot’). Finally, Ukrainians hit the Morozovsk Air Base outside Rostov, and Savasleyka Air Base (home base of the Russia’s MiG-31K-fleet: these are jets releasing Kinzhal air-launched ballistic missile), and claims to have destroyed one MiG and one Su-30 or Su-34. Such attacks are possible primarily because the Ukrainian armed forces are starting them by ‘drilling SAM-corridors’ through the Russian air defences in several areas along the the frontline. As far as can be assessed on the basis of publicly available materials, the Russian units operating Buk SAM-systems have suffered quite some attrition over the last two-three weeks.

´In retaliation’, the Russians continued striking civilian objects all over Ukraine: Kyiv was heavily hit, Kherson too, but the heaviest hit was Kharkiv, which on 5 June found itself exposed to a massive barrage including almost everything the Russians have in their arsenal: ballistic- and cruise missiles, artillery rockets and S-300-missiles (fired in ballistic mode), and UMPK glide bombs (including new models with range of 95km), plus dozens of attack UAVs… There are only three known exceptions from the Russian practice of targeting civilians. One was a strike that set a warehouse in Odesa afire, on 2 June. Another was the Penoboard factory for insulation materials, in Ternopil, hit on 5 June. On 6 June, a well-coordinated multi-missile Russian strike (apparently including Iskanders or Kinzhals, and Kh-101s, all of which came in within less than a minute) heavily hit the Motor Repair Plant in Lutsk, an enterprise specialised in overhauls and repairs of jet engines.

For its part, the Ukrainian Air Force has managed a special feat: on 7 June, as its fighter-bombers were running air strikes on Russian ground forces in the Tjotkino area (south-western Kharkiv), deploying ASM-250 Hammer guided bombs, an ‘enterprising’ Russian Su-35-pilot attempted to intercept them (read: too much testosterone) - only to fly into a well-set-up ambush. His jet was shot down by a single AIM-120B medium range air-to-air missile, fired by an Ukrainian F-16AM, and crashed south of Korenevo: as far as is known, the pilot ejected safely (shame).

 

[ChloeTzang]

Cheboksary, Russian Federation. This is the destruction of the VNIIR-Progress plant responsible for supplying the Russian Armed Forces with critical electronics that are used in the T-90, Armata, and S-300/400 systems. Cheboksary is 1,000 km inside Russia, and is a key producer of antennas for Shahed drones.

More and more Russians are beginning to realize that war is a two-way street…notice also that there is zero air defense at work. Wide open target. Russia is running out of air defense systems.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931914262684766239

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931978200478843382

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[Buffalogurl]

The US has sent 20,000 missiles intended for Ukraine to the Middle East instead​

Yet another attack on Ukraine by the pro-Putinista's of the Trump Administration. Every time you think Trump can't sink lower, he manages to achieve new depths.

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy has reported that the United States has redirected 20,000 missiles, originally intended for Ukraine to combat Russian Shahed drones, to the Middle East. "We have major problems with Shaheds, we’re fighting them and of course will find tools to destroy them. But we had found something and decided – I think it was under the previous administration, it was defence secretary Austin. We settled on a project and we were counting on it. 20,000 missiles to fight Shaheds. It wasn’t expensive, but it was a special technology. We were counting on those 20,000 missiles. This morning, my defence minister told me that the United States has transferred them to the Middle East."

On 5 June, The Wall Street Journal reported that the administration of US President Donald Trump had decided to redirect special fuses for ground-based rockets used by Ukraine to shoot down Russian drones to US Air Force units in the Middle East. These fuses are considered a key component in countering Russian UAVs. The WSJ said that the Pentagon privately informed Congress last week that these fuses are now being transferred to US Air Force units in the Middle East.

Trump not only does not sell weapons to Ukraine, he also steals weapons that were ordered, paid for and produced for Ukraine. Trump is 100% Putin's ally. Trump is now actively helping Putin and wants Ukraine to lose this war.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/06/8/7516207/

https://twitter.com/x/status/1931713167295480006

Welp maybe, just maybe, Zelensky went to far with the absolute asanine attack on one leg of the Russian’s nuclear triad..what you and these idiotic mutts are ignoring is that jackass Zelensky fucking near started a nuclear exchange...the Russians have changed their nuclear doctrine, their nuclear forces are on a 30 second launch window. Only by sheer grace we're not nuked..... the reason those bombers were out in the "open" is due to the s.t.a.r.t. nuclear treaties. We in the United States are required to have a certain amount of our nuclear capable strategic bombers out and visible in the "open" for the very same reason........
The Russians could have interpreted the attack perpetrated on the triad as the opening Salvo to a full on first strike and 30 seconds later the world burns .... that fucking jackass Zelensky risked my life and the lives of my people because he is a fucking mad man....... due to lit,s policy and rules of this forum, I won't state what I emotionally feel about that fucking jackass Zelensky....... fuck him very much
Also your propaganda is wrong the damage is to only 7 aircraft and much of the "drone footage" is from a video game...
One more item.... this insane attack just proved to the world that any madman with a drone can replace the suicide bomber...... you can bet your last Ukrainian soldier's life the diaper heads are watching this with renewed interest.....

 

[ll74]

Lol, with the most recent Russian attack, this made me laugh

 

[dmallord]

Welp maybe, just maybe, Zelensky went to far with the absolute asanine attack on one leg of the Russian’s nuclear triad..what you and these idiotic mutts are ignoring is that jackass Zelensky fucking near started a nuclear exchange...the Russians have changed their nuclear doctrine, their nuclear forces are on a 30 second launch window. Only by sheer grace we're not nuked..... the reason those bombers were out in the "open" is due to the s.t.a.r.t. nuclear treaties. We in the United States are required to have a certain amount of our nuclear capable strategic bombers out and visible in the "open" for the very same reason........
The Russians could have interpreted the attack perpetrated on the triad as the opening Salvo to a full on first strike and 30 seconds later the world burns .... that fucking jackass Zelensky risked my life and the lives of my people because he is a fucking mad man....... due to lit,s policy and rules of this forum, I won't state what I emotionally feel about that fucking jackass Zelensky....... fuck him very much
Also your propaganda is wrong the damage is to only 7 aircraft and much of the "drone footage" is from a video game...
One more item.... this insane attack just proved to the world that any madman with a drone can replace the suicide bomber...... you can bet your last Ukrainian soldier's life the diaper heads are watching this with renewed interest.....

YOur Data is outdated. Those treaties are no longer in effect and the last one that would have been was canceled by Russia.

Russians could have but didn't and have threatened nuclear force severl times. It has not mentioned that threat again. Putin like TACO Trump has played taht card one too many times ti seems.

Video game? LOL

 

[ll74]

YOur Data is outdated. Those treaties are no longer in effect and the last one that would have been was canceled by Russia.

Russians could have but didn't and have threatened nuclear force severl times. It has not mentioned that threat again. Putin like TACO Trump has played taht card one too many times ti seems.

Video game? LOL

Start is still in effect until feb 2026.

 

[Lazaran]

https://www.state.gov/u-s-countermeasures-in-response-to-russias-violations-of-the-new-start-treaty/#:~:text=The Russian Federation's purported suspension,fully consistent with international law.

From the statement:

“The United States is committed to full and mutual implementation of the New START Treaty. Consistent with that commitment, the United States has adopted lawful countermeasures in response to the Russian Federation’s ongoing violations of the New START Treaty. The Russian Federation’s purported suspension of the New START Treaty is legally invalid. As a result, Russia remains bound by its New START Treaty obligations, and is violating the treaty by failing to fulfill many of those obligations.”





Hope that ^ helps.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ll74]

https://www.state.gov/u-s-countermeasures-in-response-to-russias-violations-of-the-new-start-treaty/#:~:text=The Russian Federation's purported suspension,fully consistent with international law.

Yes, Russia violated the treaty which is in effect. Russia did not "cancel" anything.

Thanks for providing supporting evidence of my refutation.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Welp maybe, just maybe, Zelensky went to far with the absolute asanine attack on one leg of the Russian’s nuclear triad..what you and these idiotic mutts are ignoring is that jackass Zelensky fucking near started a nuclear exchange...the Russians have changed their nuclear doctrine, their nuclear forces are on a 30 second launch window. Only by sheer grace we're not nuked..... the reason those bombers were out in the "open" is due to the s.t.a.r.t. nuclear treaties. We in the United States are required to have a certain amount of our nuclear capable strategic bombers out and visible in the "open" for the very same reason........
The Russians could have interpreted the attack perpetrated on the triad as the opening Salvo to a full on first strike and 30 seconds later the world burns .... that fucking jackass Zelensky risked my life and the lives of my people because he is a fucking mad man....... due to lit,s policy and rules of this forum, I won't state what I emotionally feel about that fucking jackass Zelensky....... fuck him very much
Also your propaganda is wrong the damage is to only 7 aircraft and much of the "drone footage" is from a video game...
One more item.... this insane attack just proved to the world that any madman with a drone can replace the suicide bomber...... you can bet your last Ukrainian soldier's life the diaper heads are watching this with renewed interest.....

Nah, if they were that precious to Putin he wouldn't have used them to bomb Ukraine. He just used a couple pf the remaining T160's in the latest attack, so obviously he understands they are fair game too.

Use 'em and lose 'em. I understand the Ukrainians may be targeting russia's nuclear submarines in Kamchatka next. What a shame they started a war. Oh well, never mind. Russia delenda est.

 

[Lazaran]

"Some people"…



Meanwhile: Russia has unilaterally suspended the START treaty, so…



Slava Ukraini!!!

 

[dmallord]

Start is still in effect until feb 2026.

The New START Treaty, the last remaining bilateral nuclear arms control treaty between the United States and Russia, is currently in a state of partial implementation. While the treaty remains legally in effect, Russia has suspended its implementation of the verification provisions, including on-site inspections and data exchanges, according to the Arms Control Association. The treaty expires on February 5, 2026.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Official Status:
  The New START Treaty is still in force, but its implementation is suspended by Russia.
  
  
• Russian Actions:
  Russia announced it would continue to abide by the treaty's central weapons limits, but suspended its implementation of verification provisions, including on-site inspections and data exchanges.
  
  
• U.S. Response:
  The United States has responded by also suspending its verification activities and expressing willingness to resume full compliance if Russia does the same.
  
  
• Expiration:
  The treaty is scheduled to expire on February 5, 2026.
  
  
• Negotiations:
  Despite the suspension and upcoming expiration, the U.S. Department of State has indicated a willingness to engage in negotiations for a successor agreement.
  

 

[ll74]

The New START Treaty, the last remaining bilateral nuclear arms control treaty between the United States and Russia, is currently in a state of partial implementation. While the treaty remains legally in effect, Russia has suspended its implementation of the verification provisions, including on-site inspections and data exchanges, according to the Arms Control Association. The treaty expires on February 5, 2026.

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

• Official Status:
  The New START Treaty is still in force, but its implementation is suspended by Russia.
  
  
• Russian Actions:
  Russia announced it would continue to abide by the treaty's central weapons limits, but suspended its implementation of verification provisions, including on-site inspections and data exchanges.
  
  
• U.S. Response:
  The United States has responded by also suspending its verification activities and expressing willingness to resume full compliance if Russia does the same.
  
  
• Expiration:
  The treaty is scheduled to expire on February 5, 2026.
  
  
• Negotiations:
  Despite the suspension and upcoming expiration, the U.S. Department of State has indicated a willingness to engage in negotiations for a successor agreement.

Why the fuck do I care about your chatGPT copypasta?

START is in effect until Feb 2026.
Period.
Yes, Russia has done some shit, but the treaty has not been dissolved (i. E. Still exists)

You said Russia somehow made it not exist, which is wrong/lie.

That's it. Stop being argumentative.....it doesn't matter that you want to prove a point.

 

[Lazaran]

Pedantic POS is pedantic.



A treaty is only as good as the participating / signing parties’ adherence to it.

Hope that ^ helps.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ll74]

Pedantic POS is pedantic.



A treaty is only as good as the participating / signing parties’ adherence to it.

Hope that ^ helps.





We. Told. Them. So.

He stated false information. I corrected him.

For whatever reason it matters to show that I'm correct but not effectively correct in some manner.

It means nothing in the overall aspect of his point or my point. A slight correction which is important in context to things and that will matter in negotiations

 

[ChloeTzang]

Russia is in a slow motion collape.........

 

[ChloeTzang]

Anna is enthusiastic too....

 

[ChloeTzang]

Well, the Russians stated the obvious out loud....now let's see Trump ignore this and continue to do his best to sabotage and back stab Ukraine in orderto assist Putin.

I fully expect him to come out soon and say well, the Baltic States should not be in NATO. This is NATO's fault for expanding into the Baltic States and Putin has a point....

Thanks to European and American procrastination and lack of political willand hesitant support for Ukraine, it's likely that the war will expand into the Baltic States in the next year or so unless Russia is defeated.

 

[ll74]

Well, the Russians stated the obvious out loud....now let's see Trump ignore this and continue to do his best to sabotage and back stab Ukraine in orderto assist Putin.

I fully expect him to come out soon and say well, the Baltic States should not be in NATO. This is NATO's fault for expanding into the Baltic States and Putin has a point....

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The Baltics make that choice, not NATO.

 

[ChloeTzang]

This is big - it seems that ALL the old Israeli Patriot batteries are now in Ukraine

 

[Lance_Castro]

The Balkans are Satan’s Holy Lands… where all wars are inseminated.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukraine attacks military targets. Russia attacks civilians.

Trump has sent 20,000 missiles that were developed, paid for and built for Ukraine to the Middle East rather than to Ukraine to protect civilians against these genocidal attacks by the Russians.

 

[ChloeTzang]