For Those Who Might Be Wondering Why We Might Be In Ukraine

[ll74]

I'm not saying Putin is smart, I'm saying he's ruthless. But, what you're proposing is genocide for the human race and no nation is going to condone it. Not even if Russia does nuke Kiev.

Russia won't nuke Ukraine.

 

[Lazaran]

This will only make the world-wide condemnation worse. Every nation condemned Russia for occupying Chernobyl and cutting the power that keeps it from restarting the nuclear meltdown process again.

Now you think Ukraine would be good-to-go if they went down that same road? Or if they did worse and spread that out across Russia in multiple places with uncontrolled nuclear fallout? No, it would only get them pariah state status and a very quick end to the aid they're getting. The world would band together against Ukraine, not help it, because no one would want to be complicit in it.

Derpy can’t follow the plot on the most basic of things:

Ukraine is facing an existential crisis, and they have EVERY RIGHT to act unilaterally in a scorched earth / salting of the fields (dirty bombs, attacks on Russian controlled nuclear facilities in Russia & Ukraine, etc) campaign if Russia continues its indiscriminate attacks on Ukrainian cities & civilians to the point that Ukrainian sovereignty is acutely imperiled.

Derpy points to (accepts) nuclear threats from Putin / Russia as a cause for capitulation/ appeasement of Putin / Russia, but Derpy finds JUSTIFIED nuclear threats from Ukraine to be cause for VICTIM BASHING the Ukrainians.



All I can say to Derpy, is: “GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!”



Hope that ^ helps.



Derpy



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[RobDownSouth]

So did Hegseth do this of his own volition, in which case he needs to be fired. Or was he told to do it. Inchoch case whoever told him to do it should be fired. Unless it was Trimp of course, an then his cognition needs to be tested because he said he didn't.....

I suspect Hegseth went rogue on this one. It's not like he hasn't done it before.

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More reports seeping out of the Dept of Defense (NOT the White House) that Pickled Pete Hegseth acted unilaterally, and did not consult his dotard boss.

 

[Lazaran]

More reports seeping out of the Dept of Defense (NOT the White House) that Pickled Pete Hegseth acted unilaterally, and did not consult his dotard boss.

C’mon, Rob. You know how Don Corleorange, the dotard mob boss, works:

DonOld made it quite clear to Whiskey Pete that he wanted to sabotage Ukraine, and he didn’t have to flat out say it:

Don Corleorange:: “Hey Petey, you know that thing that I wanted you to do about that other thing???”

Petey: “Sure thing, boss. I’ll get right on that thing”.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Popular Russian military correspondent Maxim Kalashnikov predicts that this summer offensive will be Russia’s last before its economy collapses along with its ability to wage war:

“This text appeared on the private channel “Scout”:

“The General Staff gave Putin a plan for an offensive in the second half of the summer, sources said. For the operation, they proposed to release the military from guarding the borders to be replaced with North Korean soldiers who are being trained for that. The head of the General Staff personally reported to the president about the readiness for a large-scale phase of the operation in the coming months with the advances beyond the new regions. In the main scenario, which the insiders got acquainted with, it is planned to break deep into the Sumy, Kharkiv, and Dnipropetrovsk regions to create a buffer zone by the end of summer. The document also contains plans to advance to Odesa. The General Staff offers the president to expand the buffer zone as much as possible before the onset of autumn rains, when the roads will make it difficult to use the equipment and force the parties to move to positional warfare. According to the source, Russia should have enough resources for such an operation.”

I think the above is almost a fantasy.

Even if 30,000 North Koreans replace our border guards, a big offensive (with the crossing of the Dnieper!) won’t work.

1. The issue of paralysing the rear of the AFU by an air operation has not been resolved. The management and logistics of the AFU haven't been destroyed
2. Therefore, the issue with the mass use of the drone army by the enemy, which creates a “death zone” 50 km deep from the line of contact, has not been resolved.

That is, the enemy will inflict monstrous losses on our equipment and infantry, turning our attempts to attack into a kind of Passchendaele or “Nivelle offensive slaughter” in WWI, holding the line itself with quite stretched forces. Our quantitative superiority (but not qualitative and not in terms of organizing the drone army) does not solve the problem.

• We have not put our air force in order and therefore we do not provide protection for local combat zones.
• Therefore, what advance on Odesa is even possible? Only the slow squeezing of the AFU at an extremely expensive cost to us.
• Otherwise, the System, permeated with nepotism and simony, corruption and stagnation, the System does not know how to conduct combat actions.
• One thing is true: summer is our last attempt. Further, the raging crisis in the economy of the Russian Federation will put an end to the country’s ability to wage war.
• Both Ukraine and the Russian Federation are getting tired.

No “cosmetic fixes” can correct the tangle of frank missed opportunities and complete neglect of the modern warfare experiences we have gained since both 2014 and 2022.

It’s too late to take medicine when your kidneys have already failed. That’s why we’ll have to do what Trump wants...”

 

[Lazaran]

That’s why we’ll have to do what Trump wants...”

Putin will have to do what his puppet wants???



BWAHAHAHA…HA…



Of course Putin "will do what Trump wants"… considering Trump wants to give Putin everything Putin wants…so…

 

[ChloeTzang]

People like this just need to be exterminated. Anybody that opposes sending weapons to Ukrainie is complicit in this kind of barbarity. And do you really think people who hunt 1 year old's with drones would even hesitate for a second at genocide? For Ukraine, it's victory or extermination.

 

[ChloeTzang]

How most Ukrainians see where we are with the war......

 

[ChloeTzang]

After declining for months, the number of Russian officers being killed in action has increased sharply. There are reasons for this.

• Russia has a top-down command structure and no NCO corps. Subordinates are not empowered to overcome, adapt, and improvise. This has been a cornerstone of Russian military doctrine since the Tzars. This forces senior officers to the frontlines.
• The first thing to break in combat with the ZSU is the Russian battle plan, and unlike 2024, when Ukrainian forces made several disastrous mistakes, opportunities like botched troop rotations have been thin. Russian command structure hasn't changed, Ukraine's is finally incrementally and continuously improving. Basically, Ukraine is constantly inside the Russian OODA loop.

2 things are happening.

• Drones mean there is no such thing as in the rear with the gear. The most cowardly REMF is still in harms way. ISTAR UAVs see everything. Movement is difficult. Command staff meetings near the FLOT are dangerous. Any OPSEC lapse is deadly. Because of the top-down command structure, decapitation attacks hit Russian units harder.
• The second thing is that when Russian battle plans fall apart, senior officers above company commanders are forced to go to the FLOT. Sometimes to take over, sometimes to enforce orders that are impossible to execute, sometimes to deal with refusniks and insubordination.

Assessment: The increase in Russian officers KIA is due to the lack of operational success on the frontlines. So far, the only operational goal achieved in 2025 was the capture of Velyka Novosilka. Everything else has been tactical and at a brutually high cost.

Conclusion: Russia's 2025 Summer Offensive is not going to plan. The lack of operational success is putting increasing pressure on commanders to achieve more than picture reports in abandoned villages. More field officers are going to the front line / contact zone to enforce orders and are consequently dying.

 

[ChloeTzang]

MIG AIRCRAFT PLANT STRIKE NEAR MOSCOW​

 

[Lazaran]

MIG AIRCRAFT PLANT STRIKE NEAR MOSCOW​

Anna in Ukraine totally clowned Whiskey Pete & DonOld the dotard in that video.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Anna in Ukraine totally clowned Whiskey Pete & DonOld the dotard in that video.

She's good. Love her clips and she does a great job summarizing key events too.

 

[Lazaran]

She's good. Love her clips and she does a great job summarizing key events too.

Her snark, shade, and serious commentary skills are next level.

She keeps hammering the point (so even DonOld the dotard can understand) that Ukraine is surgically targeting Russian military targets & military production / support sites with precision drone strikes, etc, while Russia indiscriminately targets Ukrainian cities & civilians with massive drone & missile strikes.

Her snarky / shady comment related to Whiskey Pete’s vacuous non-contribution to the drone war conversation was a figurative public knifing with a perfectly targeted / delivered thrust and a gratuitous twist of the figurative blade at the end.

Bravo, Anna in Ukraine!!!





Slava Ukraini!!!

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukraine has just shattered Russia’s summer offensive in Donetsk. With two precision strikes, it eliminated Russia’s local command structure and obliterated the ammunition depot meant to sustain a massive assault on Pokrovsk. The result: chaos, fire, and exposed Russian troops with no leadership or supplies. As Ukrainian forces tighten control over the skies and roll out homegrown weapons, Russia’s plans for Donetsk are crumbling fast—and Ukraine is only just getting started.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[Lazaran]

Side question:

Where is Russiaguide???



That traitorous Putinista POS has been MIA from their own thread.

I wonder why???



We. Know. Why.



Russiaguide



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[ChloeTzang]

And for those are delisional emough to think that this war can end any other way than with Putin's death and Russia's defeat......

 

[ll74]

I'd be fine if Putin accidentally met his demise by some outside force.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Update from Ukraine | What a Story! General's Lover Ruins Ruzzian Air Force​

This is wonderful. I laughed my way thru the whole thing.....major security breach, outrage, arrests.....

 

[ChloeTzang]

Ukraine is implementing it's Clear Sky strategey with its own interceptor drones.....$1800 Ukrainian drones taking out $25-50k Russian drones...

National rollout coming soon.

 

[ChloeTzang]

'You can't trust Putin or Trump': Col (Rtd) Hamish de Bretton-Gordon on Ukraine, Russia and chemical weapons​

US President Donald Trump has called out Vladimir Putin's "bullshit" and appears to be getting ready to back major US sanctions against Russia. Could this be the end of Trump's soft spot for the Russian dictator? Veteran army officer and chemical and nuclear weapons expert Hamish de Bretton-Gordon about what might happen next and why we can't trust either Trump or Putin. They also discuss Russia's campaign of chemical weapons in Ukraine, the dangers of not supporting Syria's new Islamist government, and the significance of the new French-British nuclear weapons deal.

After Iran, Trump knows that he COULD bomb the shit out ofMoscow if he chose to.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Another good update from Denys

After the beheading of the Russian 155th Brigade, the unit is on the verge of open mutiny after the appointment of the butcher Sukhrab Akhmedov as irs new commander. The Marines of the 155th hae said they will never serve under this commander. Baci in 2022 his leadership was the cause of enormous losses in the 20th Combined Arms Army.

 

[ChloeTzang]

 

[ChloeTzang]

I think we can be expecting to see more of this as the Russian summer offensive peters out....the tanks and IFV's are gone, the ammo dumps are being found and whittled down, the artillery is going and what's left has ammor shortages, Russian air defences are blyat now, and the Ukrainian Air Force has literally thousands of guided bombs they can now use more or less with impunity on the Russians. Russia has meat and drones left, and as the ZSU gains strength, meat by itself will not be enough- and the new Ukrainian interceptor drones are starting to come online.

Look at the stats on artillery losses. Russian artillery losses are showing a recent dramatic increase in 122mm guns (light blue) as a proportion of the total artillery losses. The 122mm weapons are: the 122mm 2A18 D-30 howitzer (towed) and the 122mm 2S1 'Gvozdika' (self Propelled). The D 30 was introduced in the 1960s and the Gvozdika is essentially the same gun but on a modified MT-LBu hull introduced in the 1970s. The 122's are shorter ranged than the 152mm, usually older, and likely indicates they're <a) running low on 152mm guns and/pr (b) running low on 152mm ammo. It's likely that the Russian storage depots are running low on any 152's to be pulled out and refurbished and the numbers are consequently getting funky. Another is that the Norks don't operate that many 152mm guns compared to 122mm guns and so it didn't have that big of a reserve to send to russia. Russia does not have functioning 122mm plants of its own. They ran out of their stocks of Soviet ammo while ago, so the spike likely indicates NK and China started to resupply them with 122mm again. Thus russia has spent most of what it could get from NK storage and is now working it way through NK 122mm ammo, which is less effective than 152mm

Another indicator that Russia is running down.....

Russian Telegram channels report a critical situation in the occupied town of Kondrativka, Sumy region — the Russian army’s 9th Motorized Rifle Regiment failed to assist the 30th Regiment's soldiers in breaking through the Ukrainian encirclement.

According to the occupiers, Kondrativka is now completely surrounded, and water and ammunition are being delivered to the soldiers trapped there only by drones.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

After Iran, Trump knows that he COULD bomb the shit out ofMoscow if he chose to.

There is a big difference between assisting Israel in its war with Iran by conducting a limited, targeted strike on Iran’s uranium enrichment sites and “bombing the shit out of Moscow.” Russia is a nuclear superpower.