ChloeTzang
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We haven’t seen any real offer because Zelensky and Putin haven’t even agreed to meet. What we absolutely don’t want is some “Article Five-style” deal that drags U.S. ground troops into Ukraine, and neither does Russia. Trump’s goal is simple: get both sides to the table to talk about how to end the war. The problem is Zelensky doesn’t seem willing to stop if it means giving up any of the territory already lost, and Putin isn’t about to hand back land that cost him tens of thousands of soldiers. That leaves a brutal reality: this war may only end with a decisive victory or a crushing defeat, not a tidy compromise.I haven’t seen any specific security offer from Trump at this point in time. I’ve heard the term “Article 5 like” guarantees, presumably meaning similar to the Article 5 provisions under NATO, but not the same thing. Other than pledging some form of US support as a “backstop” (the term European leaders are using), Trump is has been vague about exactly what the US is willing to provide. He’s ruled out boots on the ground in past statements, and reiterated that yesterday. I suppose some American personnel in Ukraine is possible, but if so it would be non-combat rolls. Most observers are assuming US would provide air support, air defense systems, logistics and intelligence support. But right now Trump is playing his cards close to the vest.
Putin...Russia's ratfuck dictator.
We haven’t seen any real offer because Zelensky and Putin haven’t even agreed to meet. What we absolutely don’t want is some “Article Five-style” deal that drags U.S. ground troops into Ukraine, and neither does Russia. Trump’s goal is simple: get both sides to the table to talk about how to end the war. The problem is Zelensky doesn’t seem willing to stop if it means giving up any of the territory already lost, and Putin isn’t about to hand back land that cost him tens of thousands of soldiers. That leaves a brutal reality: this war may only end with a decisive victory or a crushing defeat, not a tidy compromise.
So tell us when and where their meeting will take place, Chloe?"Zelensky and Putin haven’t even agreed to meet." Sorry to be rude but that is ABSOLUTE FUCKING BULLSHIT
It isn't taking place. The rest of her post makes that clear as well as the reasoning why it isn't.So tell us when and where their meeting will take place, Chloe?
So tell us when and where their meeting will take place, Chloe?
I know, when I said, referring to the here and now, "We haven’t seen any real offer because Zelensky and Putin haven’t even agreed to meet," Chloe said that was bullshit. So I asked her to tell us where they had agreed to meet. They have not agreed to meet since Trump's current effort.It isn't taking place. The rest of her post makes that clear smas well as the reasoning why it isn't.
When I said they haven't agreed to meet you said that is bullshit. So when is the new expected meeting going to take place?Ask Putin. So far, Lavrov has said it;s not happening. Putin simply refuses to meet with Zelensky. Inhis eyes that legitimizes Ukraine as an independant nation, and Putin's goal is not a peace agreement and the continued existence of Ukraine. Putin's goal is is the completed efeat of Ukraine and the recreation of the old Tsarist / Soviet Empire - which includes the Baltic States, the Caucasus, and all the rest of it - which the Russians have made plain time and time again - the takeover of Georgia being an example. Azerbaijan understands......the Baltic States understand....Finland understands....Poland understands. Every country that has been under the Russian yoke undertands.
There will ne no meeting, and THAT is becauzse Russia refuses.
I know, when I said, referring to the here and now, "We haven’t seen any real offer because Zelensky and Putin haven’t even agreed to meet," Chloe said that was bullshit. So I asked her to tell us where they had agreed to meet. They have not agreed to meet since Trump's current effort.
LolI know, when I said, referring to the here and now, "We haven’t seen any real offer because Zelensky and Putin haven’t even agreed to meet," Chloe said that was bullshit. So I asked her to tell us where they had agreed to meet. They have not agreed to meet since Trump's current effort.