fraud in mail in voting - prove it

[stickygirl]

But most of Trump's team used mail in voting last time so... the problem is what?


oh, I got it - That's why it's fraudulent

 

[zipman]

There's a distinction between "voter fraud" (an action by an individual, such as voting twice) and "election fraud" such as destruction of ballots or the chicanery of the North Carolina GOP that got an entire congressional race invalidated a couple of years ago.

Voter fraud should be punished when it happens, but it's rare and it's almost impossible to have it happen on a scale that can change the outcome of a race. But election fraud, as we're currently seeing, can be engineered at the highest levels of government.

Period. /Thread.

 

[adrina]

There's a distinction between "voter fraud" (an action by an individual, such as voting twice) and "election fraud" such as destruction of ballots or the chicanery of the North Carolina GOP that got an entire congressional race invalidated a couple of years ago.

Voter fraud should be punished when it happens, but it's rare and it's almost impossible to have it happen on a scale that can change the outcome of a race. But election fraud, as we're currently seeing, can be engineered at the highest levels of government.

This.

 

[jomar]

I concur.

 

[SpeareChucker]

28 Million Mail-In Ballots Went Missing in Last Four Elections.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...t_missing_in_last_four_elections_143033.html#!

“I really think the only reason vote-by-mail problems are not getting more attention on a regular basis, is that it's kind of an embarrassing problem and people just aren’t paying attention,” says Churchwell. “These numbers of missing ballots demonstrate large voter list maintenance failures and security gaps within the broader mail voting process.”

There was a headline about this just yesterday...




https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/20/politics/paterson-new-jersey-city-council-voter-fraud/index.html






It never, ever happens when you think your team is going to win,
but it is endemic if you suspect that you might lose.
It does occur. Politics makes people crazy.
Or maybe it just enables...

 

[bellisarius]

Two years ago this city held a referendum and used "mail-in" ballots. 50,000 were returned as undeliverable. These were the ballots delivered to addresses where the recipient was honest enough to return the ballots. It is unknown how many were delivered to, and returned from, people that were not eligible to vote. Both sides had lawyers lined up to litigate the election results. As it turned out the vote at the polls was so overwhelming (the referendum failed) that the mail-in ballots were never counted, they would have made no difference in the results of the election.

The point being that had it turned out that the mail-ins would have made a difference the results of that election might still be in the courts today. NO ONE is going to accept the results of a mail-in election.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Two years ago this city held a referendum and used "mail-in" ballots. 50,000 were returned as undeliverable. These were the ballots delivered to addresses where the recipient was honest enough to return the ballots. It is unknown how many were delivered to, and returned from, people that were not eligible to vote. Both sides had lawyers lined up to litigate the election results. As it turned out the vote at the polls was so overwhelming (the referendum failed) that the mail-in ballots were never counted, they would have made no difference in the results of the election.

The point being that had it turned out that the mail-ins would have made a difference the results of that election might still be in the courts today. NO ONE is going to accept the results of a mail-in election.

Hell, have of the country never accepted the 2016 election with little,
or no, mail-in balloting...



My candidate didn't win,
but I got over it.

 

[Adre]

Colorado, Utah, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii and Switzerland all accept the results of mail-in elections.

This is a ridiculous argument put forth mostly by people who think a mail-in election means a loss for them. As for cheating, Republicans were the most recent perpetrators of massive election fraud (NC). Cheating is not owned by one party.

 

[bellisarius]

It wasn't even an election for office. It was concerning a property tax surcharge for the public schools.

 

[FescueFan]

Don't you just love how the left wants to make our voting as open to fraud and cheating as possible?

Notice they screech "voter suppression!! RACISM!!!" every time there is mention of any sort of voter/election security of any kind because they think minorities are too stupid to get an ID???

Tells you all you need to know.

 

[FescueFan]

Colorado, Utah, Oregon, Washington, Hawaii and Switzerland all accept the results of mail-in elections.

Switzerland matters why???

Then let those states do their thing

This is a ridiculous argument put forth mostly by people who think a mail-in election means a loss for them.

Or maybe they like their state and don't want a bunch of (D)ickheads from California and NY telling them how to run shit in Iowa or wherever.

So why don't the (D)icks fuck off and mind their own god damn bidnizz for ONCE.....won't be holding my breath, ya'll are the nosiest bunch of fucking Karens on the planet next to the CCP.

As for cheating, Republicans were the most recent perpetrators of massive election fraud (NC). Cheating is not owned by one party.

All the more reason for (D)'s to mind their own fucking business before they try sticking their nose up in someone else's.

 

[dicknjane]

The last two democrats to lose didn't accept the results of the election. Just laying the groundwork to do so again.

The problem isn't that the ballots are mailed in it is how they are mailed out. Unrequested and based on bad information on unmaintained voter rolls. There is no way to know where they end up and no way to know why they weren't returned.

There is no reason a ballot should be sent in the mail if it wasn't requested.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Good observations.

 

[Dribble]

The last two democrats to lose didn't accept the results of the election. Just laying the groundwork to do so again.

The problem isn't that the ballots are mailed in it is how they are mailed out. Unrequested and based on bad information on unmaintained voter rolls. There is no way to know where they end up and no way to know why they weren't returned.

There is no reason a ballot should be sent in the mail if it wasn't requested.

What a crock of horse shit.

 

[SpeareChucker]

What a crock of horse shit.

Relax, Dribble says the same thing about 2+2=4...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Relax, Dribble says the same thing about 2+2=4...

Hey Housesquaw, speakin' of mathmatics (sic), how much is one dollar, one quarter and one nickle? Is it still 92 cents?

#PatriotMath™

 

[Dribble]

Hillary Clinton conceded the election on Nov 9th, within the hour of all major news outlets projected Trump as the winner. What was her words? "We must accept this result".

Al Gore conceded on December 13th, within the hour of the Supreme Court decision. What was his words? “I accept the finality of the outcome, which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College” he said. “And tonight, for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession.”

 

[Adre]

I fully support each state deciding how to run their affairs. Including elections. What I oppose is liars passing false information about election and voter fraud. The reason we even know about fraud—the very little that occurs—is that it’s so easy to detect.

 

[Dribble]

I fully support each state deciding how to run their affairs. Including elections. What I oppose is liars passing false information about election and voter fraud. The reason we even know about fraud—the very little that occurs—is that it’s so easy to detect.

And traitors that back these liars

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The last two democrats to lose didn't accept the results of the election. Just laying the groundwork to do so again.

The problem isn't that the ballots are mailed in it is how they are mailed out. Unrequested and based on bad information on unmaintained voter rolls. There is no way to know where they end up and no way to know why they weren't returned.

There is no reason a ballot should be sent in the mail if it wasn't requested.

Good observations.

What a crock of horse shit.

Relax, Dribble says the same thing about 2+2=4...

Hillary Clinton conceded the election on Nov 9th, within the hour of all major news outlets projected Trump as the winner. What was her words? "We must accept this result".

Al Gore conceded on December 13th, within the hour of the Supreme Court decision. What was his words? “I accept the finality of the outcome, which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College” he said. “And tonight, for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession.”

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[SgtSpiderMan]

Hillary Clinton conceded the election on Nov 9th, within the hour of all major news outlets projected Trump as the winner. What was her words? "We must accept this result".

Al Gore conceded on December 13th, within the hour of the Supreme Court decision. What was his words? “I accept the finality of the outcome, which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College” he said. “And tonight, for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession.”

Yet Trump has still not accepted the results of the 2016 election.

 

[Klinkster]

Nothing to see here Move along.....move along......


“NJ Election Invalidated over Rampant Voter Fraud...Which I Was Told Doesn't Happen in the US”

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/08/23/paterson-election-invalidated-n2574854

 

[FescueFan]

I fully support each state deciding how to run their affairs. Including elections.

OMG he's an alt-REICH extremist who supports VOTER SUPPRESSION!!!

FASCIST!!! FASCIST!!! How Republican of you.....be careful saying that too loud around the comrades or they might "peacefully" protest your house to the ground for getting out of line with the wrong think.

What I oppose is liars passing false information about election and voter fraud. The reason we even know about fraud—the very little that occurs—is that it’s so easy to detect.

Yeaaaaa.......I wouldn't be so confident about that.

I'm not saying there is or isn't voter fraud, we all know there is to some extent, almost entirely fairly minor stuff. Nothing particularly scandalous or large scale.....as far as we know.


What I'm saying is I think it's quite foolish to ever assume scammers and cheats (especially those with shit tons of money and power) can't cheat and scam and get away with it. In some cases it can be very difficult but it's never impossible. Weasels and crooks at that level take their professions very seriously and they are every bit as good as other professionals at the top of their fields.

 

[Aglaopheme]

So, not one iota of proof.

 

[SpeareChucker]

lol


Not one iota...



Un-fucking-believable.

I guess you're not going to believe your lying eyes.