Fuck It: Refux

[MrsPassion]

I'm sure your sex right now feels very vanilla in comparison. I'd still suggest it's less vanilla than you think

Lol are you calling me high maintenance?

 

[Lindi37]

And now I really want to suck dick… thanks guys. Thanks very much

 

[MrsPassion]

And now I really want to suck dick… thanks guys. Thanks very much

 

[barefootgirl69]

And now I really want to suck dick… thanks guys. Thanks very much

Right? I was  fine until I started thinking about this subject!

 

[Saltfountain]

Lol are you calling me high maintenance?

Where did i say that?

I said that you've come from a place of highly kinky, bdsm sex. Of course the step down feels vanilla. But it isn't. It's just not as kinky as you were before.

I may have teased you, but in no way have I intended to say you're wrong to feel that where you're at now is vanilla, but there's a long way to go till you get to the genuinely vanilla end of the spectrum.

If you're taking a cock, or a dildo in your throat with the express intention of making yourself gag and choking on it, that's not vanilla. It's not gimp mask and electric shocks to the genitals kinky, but it ain't vanilla.

There's nothing wrong with vanilla,Ike there's nothing wrong with extreme kinks. But if that becomes vanilla, what does vanilla become?

 

[MrsPassion]

Where did i say that?

I said that you've come from a place of highly kinky, bdsm sex. Of course the step down feels vanilla. But it isn't. It's just not as kinky as you were before.

I may have teased you, but in no way have I intended to say you're wrong to feel that where you're at now is vanilla, but there's a long way to go till you get to the genuinely vanilla end of the spectrum.

If you're taking a cock, or a dildo in your throat with the express intention of making yourself gag and choking on it, that's not vanilla. It's not gimp mask and electric shocks to the genitals kinky, but it ain't vanilla.

There's nothing wrong with vanilla,Ike there's nothing wrong with extreme kinks. But if that becomes vanilla, what does vanilla become?

Oh cherub you didn’t hurt my feelings at all I haven’t finished reading what you wrote. I just wanted to say that quickly and give you a big hug

 

[barefootgirl69]

I think I might understand what she means, though.

Before I came to Lit, I thought I was vanilla, too. I said as much to people! Yes, I liked being tied up. Yes, I love cock worshipping. Yes, I love anal. But, it was NATURAL and NORMAL to me. It didn't feel like I was being KINKY.

@MrsPassion have I understood you correctly?

 

[barefootgirl69]

Isn't anything oral or outside the missionary position kinky? Or was that last century's definition?

 

[Saltfountain]

I think I might understand what she means, though.

Before I came to Lit, I thought I was vanilla, too. I said as much to people! Yes, I liked being tied up. Yes, I love cock worshipping. Yes, I love anal. But, it was NATURAL and NORMAL to me. It didn't feel like I was being KINKY.

@MrsPassion have I understood you correctly?

And I totally understand that. That's why I keep trying to distinguish between how it is and how it feels

 

[Bbl87]

Only in the sense that I’ve taken a step back from BDSM and submission. I still like to fuck but to me without the added dynamics of D/s it’s just stylized vanilla sex which is what I’ve been having

So yes I feel vanilla now even if choking on a dick or being called “Good Girl” isn’t what the rest of the population considers to be so. For me it is.

And D/s had so many levels and so much grey area. Like, rouch/assertive sex can have some D/s undertones but still not really be that IMO. Like the other night, there was some hair pulling and "guiding" her, but I wouldn't call it D/s play.

There's such a difference in a blow job vs throat fucking vs cock worship.

Vanilla -> Kinky

Very true

And now I really want to suck dick… thanks guys. Thanks very much

It's only a 20 something hour flight, darlin'. I'd make it worth your while.

 

[Saltfountain]

Isn't anything oral or outside the missionary position kinky? Or was that last century's definition?

Certainly at one point, and likely still the case in Texas

 

[MrsPassion]

There's nothing wrong with vanilla,Ike there's nothing wrong with extreme kinks. But if that becomes vanilla, what does vanilla become?

I guess for me this is kind of the crux of the issue. I don’t think my taste before were extreme per se, maybe more intense than others but I was nowhere near what I know are hard limits for me. And so maybe outside of saying “vanilla is missionary and kissing and…” (I’ll be honest I don’t know how to describe traditionally vanilla sex ) I’m somewhere floating between kinky slut and woman to who likes to fuck hard without a collar?

Idk, but it’s good food for thought.

 

[barefootgirl69]

@Bbl87

Without a power exchange, there is no D/s...and, then, it's just kinky sex.

 

[Saltfountain]

I guess for me this is kind of the crux of the issue. I don’t think my taste before were extreme per se, maybe more intense than others but I was nowhere near what I know are hard limits for me. And so maybe outside of saying “vanilla is missionary and kissing and…” (I’ll be honest I don’t know how to describe traditionally vanilla sex ) I’m somewhere floating between kinky slut and woman to who likes to fuck hard without a collar?

Idk, but it’s good food for thought.

See, you can call me a shit, but it was a good convo

 

[MrsPassion]

I think I might understand what she means, though.

Before I came to Lit, I thought I was vanilla, too. I said as much to people! Yes, I liked being tied up. Yes, I love cock worshipping. Yes, I love anal. But, it was NATURAL and NORMAL to me. It didn't feel like I was being KINKY.

@MrsPassion have I understood you correctly?

Yes! This is how I had sex before even knowing anything about kink. It’s how sex and sensuality naturally existed in my body and emotional connection to it.

 

[Bbl87]

I think I might understand what she means, though.

Before I came to Lit, I thought I was vanilla, too. I said as much to people! Yes, I liked being tied up. Yes, I love cock worshipping. Yes, I love anal. But, it was NATURAL and NORMAL to me. It didn't feel like I was being KINKY.

@MrsPassion have I understood you correctly?

You really are a treasure.

 

[Bbl87]

@Bbl87

Without a power exchange, there is no D/s...and, then, it's just kinky sex.

As in a formal power exchange? Because if that's the case, I'm not sure alot of what some people might consider D/s play in my life would actually count.

 

[Lindi37]

And D/s had so many levels and so much grey area. Like, rouch/assertive sex can have some D/s undertones but still not really be that IMO. Like the other night, there was some hair pulling and "guiding" her, but I wouldn't call it D/s play.



Very true



It's only a 20 something hour flight, darlin'. I'd make it worth your while.

I don’t earn enough in my country to afford the flight

 

[Bbl87]

I don’t earn enough in my country to afford the flight

Well shit, and I just flew back so my flight budget has been exhausted...

 

[MrsPassion]

See, you can call me a shit, but it was a good convo

Oh I call you a shit in the same loving tone as I call you dearest

 

[Saltfountain]

Oh I call you a shit in the same loving tone as I call you dearest

Oh, I'm well aware of that

 

[barefootgirl69]

As in a formal power exchange? Because if that's the case, I'm not sure alot of what some people might consider D/s play in my life would actually count.

Dominance/submission.
You can have that even without sex.

 

[Bbl87]

Dominance/submission.
You can have that even without sex.

Valid point. I was just saying without having a formal Dom/sub relationship. We do plenty of things sexually that fall under what many would consider D/s, specifically involving bondage, but we don't have any formal agreement not do we express the relationship outside of sex.

 

[barefootgirl69]

Valid point. I was just saying without having a formal Dom/sub relationship. We do plenty of things sexually that fall under what many would consider D/s, specifically involving bondage, but we don't have any formal agreement not do we express the relationship outside of sex.

Kinky sex is don't get me wrong. There are those who have a 24/7 PE, those who are bedroom only (Top/bottom), and those who aren't into D/s, just enjoying kinky sex and living the good life!

 

[Bbl87]

Kinky sex is don't get me wrong. There are those who have a 24/7 PE, those who are bedroom only (Top/bottom), and those who aren't into D/s, just enjoying kinky sex and living the good life!

As long as I'm having fun, and more importantly my partner is, I don't care what we call it.