MysteryWriter
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that would work
that virgin bit should do it. On this site they might even give you a car.
that virgin bit should do it. On this site they might even give you a car.
give us your opinion
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ah a car...
I am a passable mechanic possibly we could take a crack at the car in a quiet campground somewhere.
I am a passable mechanic possibly we could take a crack at the car in a quiet campground somewhere.
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A virgin hmmmmm
Lets see nervous gal worried that it will hurt, grossed out cause I asked her to actually "do that", "eewwwww gross".
No idea what such and such an position requires.
Has to be told where her own g-spot is let alone mine.
Unable to know in advance how to make me beg her to actually stop what she is doing let alone make me beg her to start something.
Me I was a virgin once...I was not overly happy being unskilled personally.
I have a wife of 15 years that can wrap me around her finger. She will do anything I ask and can do anything she wants as well.
She knows how to drive me out of my mind in sensory overload, and can make me cum with or without my permission.
If my wife ever was to find me in bed with another woman, it would be a mature woman to be sure. I can't see myself entertaining a virgin. Call me spoiled I guess.
But some guys do like them I suppose.
Lets see nervous gal worried that it will hurt, grossed out cause I asked her to actually "do that", "eewwwww gross".
No idea what such and such an position requires.
Has to be told where her own g-spot is let alone mine.
Unable to know in advance how to make me beg her to actually stop what she is doing let alone make me beg her to start something.
Me I was a virgin once...I was not overly happy being unskilled personally.
I have a wife of 15 years that can wrap me around her finger. She will do anything I ask and can do anything she wants as well.
She knows how to drive me out of my mind in sensory overload, and can make me cum with or without my permission.
If my wife ever was to find me in bed with another woman, it would be a mature woman to be sure. I can't see myself entertaining a virgin. Call me spoiled I guess.
But some guys do like them I suppose.
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good point
never occured to me that she might be a bum chewer... so little miss virginal one... what was the first presidential election you could have voted in...
never occured to me that she might be a bum chewer... so little miss virginal one... what was the first presidential election you could have voted in...
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oops
make that gum chewer... roflmffao
make that gum chewer... roflmffao
The Virginal Myth
Ah Leslie, I'm flattered by your even pondering the notion; even if your wife - by your description - is a Love Goddess of Profound Talent. And good for her! And you! I am all for everyone having a happy and fulfilling sex life.
But you seem under the misconception (pardon the pun) that a virgin has to be 'immature'. Or inexperienced. Consider, if you will, a "Mature Virgin" - a rarity in our times to be sure, but nonetheless I'm sure they exist. One with the intellectual maturity and life experience to comprehend, want and willingly desire all the myriad joys of sex, yet not jaded by a history of unsatisfying experiences and hence, bored by having already 'done it all'. One with whom you could actually carry on an intelligent conversation before or after sex (even during if you are of that bent), and one who knows the definition of fellatio, can spell it correctly, not to mention perform it well.
Merely a hypothesis being proposed...for your consideration.
By the way, I have a particular fondness for Canadian men; and while I would never wish to intrude upon the marriage of a happily fulfilled couple, it is a shame, Leslie, that you have already decided against the potential joys of a Mature Virgin lol. Not to worry, however - it sounds like MysteryWriter is still interested...
Ah Leslie, I'm flattered by your even pondering the notion; even if your wife - by your description - is a Love Goddess of Profound Talent. And good for her! And you! I am all for everyone having a happy and fulfilling sex life.
But you seem under the misconception (pardon the pun) that a virgin has to be 'immature'. Or inexperienced. Consider, if you will, a "Mature Virgin" - a rarity in our times to be sure, but nonetheless I'm sure they exist. One with the intellectual maturity and life experience to comprehend, want and willingly desire all the myriad joys of sex, yet not jaded by a history of unsatisfying experiences and hence, bored by having already 'done it all'. One with whom you could actually carry on an intelligent conversation before or after sex (even during if you are of that bent), and one who knows the definition of fellatio, can spell it correctly, not to mention perform it well.
Merely a hypothesis being proposed...for your consideration.
By the way, I have a particular fondness for Canadian men; and while I would never wish to intrude upon the marriage of a happily fulfilled couple, it is a shame, Leslie, that you have already decided against the potential joys of a Mature Virgin lol. Not to worry, however - it sounds like MysteryWriter is still interested...
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ah so
Only on an intellectual basis i assure you
Only on an intellectual basis i assure you
And one more thing...
And what of you, Sir - what was the first presidential election in which you participated? I so hope you were not a Truman supporter lol. I do like my lovers to only be looking reluctantly forward to receiving Social Security - not dragging their walkers in a shuffled heat to the mailbox every day drooling over the prospect of that monthly government stipend. I prefer caviar, not cat food, dahling...
And what of you, Sir - what was the first presidential election in which you participated? I so hope you were not a Truman supporter lol. I do like my lovers to only be looking reluctantly forward to receiving Social Security - not dragging their walkers in a shuffled heat to the mailbox every day drooling over the prospect of that monthly government stipend. I prefer caviar, not cat food, dahling...
Silly french stuff
Oh you guys. On a slightly more serious note you guys might, if you haven't read it, take a look at George Battaille's The Story of an Eye to get both erotica, pornography, and a type of literature with a more serious note. I'm not sure the point is really interesting (a world with no morals, in a bad way, no authority, we are just children playing games of death etc. But all that is there. Same goes for De Sade and Sacher Masoch -- though each are fairly different in intent if not always content. 'Course if you've read all this you know all ready, I'll just shut up.
"Are you experienced?
Have you ever been experienced?
I have." (well a little)
Oh you guys. On a slightly more serious note you guys might, if you haven't read it, take a look at George Battaille's The Story of an Eye to get both erotica, pornography, and a type of literature with a more serious note. I'm not sure the point is really interesting (a world with no morals, in a bad way, no authority, we are just children playing games of death etc. But all that is there. Same goes for De Sade and Sacher Masoch -- though each are fairly different in intent if not always content. 'Course if you've read all this you know all ready, I'll just shut up.
"Are you experienced?
Have you ever been experienced?
I have." (well a little)
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I am pleased by your kind remarks Lisa
I think I might have encountered in the past, what would possibly be a "mature virgin". Or at least they might have not "known" a mate if the way that normally removes a virgins virginity.
I guess I was perhaps thinking of the atypical young gal that has never had a mans cock thrust between her legs. More to virginity though, than an intact hymen I suppose.
Me I have never kissed another woman let alone "experienced" her. My wife got herself a virgin when she married me. That perhaps makes me cute in a few ways.
In spite of 15 years of fairly good sex, and the producing of one son, I still find so much of my psyche somewhat virginal heheh.
Regardless of what my currently posted stories might imply, I do not possess much of a body of sexual knowledge from past experience (I just have a very good imagination apparently).
I can certainly see it possible to be a "technical" virgin in a number of ways. And having several years experience also does not automatically produce a partner that is satisfying (as so many unsatisfied women online are ample proof of).
What is perhaps the most frustrating to me, is my lack of capacity to say no. Fortunately I have not yet encountered any women that expect me to put my money where my mouth is. And I dont think it would matter if it was a virgin or not.
I think I might have encountered in the past, what would possibly be a "mature virgin". Or at least they might have not "known" a mate if the way that normally removes a virgins virginity.
I guess I was perhaps thinking of the atypical young gal that has never had a mans cock thrust between her legs. More to virginity though, than an intact hymen I suppose.
Me I have never kissed another woman let alone "experienced" her. My wife got herself a virgin when she married me. That perhaps makes me cute in a few ways.
In spite of 15 years of fairly good sex, and the producing of one son, I still find so much of my psyche somewhat virginal heheh.
Regardless of what my currently posted stories might imply, I do not possess much of a body of sexual knowledge from past experience (I just have a very good imagination apparently).
I can certainly see it possible to be a "technical" virgin in a number of ways. And having several years experience also does not automatically produce a partner that is satisfying (as so many unsatisfied women online are ample proof of).
What is perhaps the most frustrating to me, is my lack of capacity to say no. Fortunately I have not yet encountered any women that expect me to put my money where my mouth is. And I dont think it would matter if it was a virgin or not.
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well virgin baby
when i first voted you had to be twenty-one. I was in the service of this great land of ours and lbj was on his way out. and i am still pissed he was my boss and didnt invite me to the daughters wedding
when i first voted you had to be twenty-one. I was in the service of this great land of ours and lbj was on his way out. and i am still pissed he was my boss and didnt invite me to the daughters wedding
The Evolution of a Mature Virgin
Taking such a stand, MysteryWriter, Sir, is how a "Young Virgin" becomes a "Mature Virgin"...
P.S. My condolences on your not being invited to the weddings. No doubt a mere oversight on Ladybird's part. Afterall, with LBJ looking out for you boys, someone had to monitor the Rib Pit...
Lisa CJ said:
MysteryWriter said:
Taking such a stand, MysteryWriter, Sir, is how a "Young Virgin" becomes a "Mature Virgin"...
P.S. My condolences on your not being invited to the weddings. No doubt a mere oversight on Ladybird's part. Afterall, with LBJ looking out for you boys, someone had to monitor the Rib Pit...
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and the light at the end of the tunnel
was an oncoming train the ran over his ass...
was an oncoming train the ran over his ass...
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Virginity is such a funny thing... I've heard some born again Christians talking about born again virginity, and never thought it serious. After my early experiences with sex, I found that I did in fact have one such experience. So, depending on how you look at it, I was either 17 or 18.
I think it's a more spiritual thing though. My first time was al;most non consentual rape, i just didn't get a chance to say no. Oh well, he was a dumb asshole anyways. This guy was bugging me from the time I was 14 to sleep with him and he was 8 years older than me. I think I still hold a grudge...
-Bel
I think it's a more spiritual thing though. My first time was al;most non consentual rape, i just didn't get a chance to say no. Oh well, he was a dumb asshole anyways. This guy was bugging me from the time I was 14 to sleep with him and he was 8 years older than me. I think I still hold a grudge...
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Shame on him
I have a daughter who is 22 now and I can remember when I found out she had given it away. I hope here experience was better than yours. I doubt it though men don't learn much till they get to be about a hundred.
I have a daughter who is 22 now and I can remember when I found out she had given it away. I hope here experience was better than yours. I doubt it though men don't learn much till they get to be about a hundred.
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When I officially lost my virginity, I must say it was no earth shattering experience I suppose.
Can't speak for women, but first experience with what happens with my gear when it finally reaches climax sure was memorable.
I was in the bathroom fiddling with it for to long when finally I stated to cum. God what a shocking experience. Shot my load all over the garbage can the wall the toilet roll everywhere.
I have never had a similar experience since in my life.
Nothing, absolutely nothing can compare to that first cum shot. Pity I was alone.
I wouldnt be surprised if most girls have experienced their first orgasm long before they lose that hymen.
And thats basically the thing that keeps me from goiving much interest in virginity. For a guy its just finally getting your cock in a woman. For a girl its just a painful moment required to get full use out of a man.
Virginity is way over rated.
Spiritual virginity.....well I think thats making something out of something that was never there. But I won't spend a lot of time on why I say what I say in my signature.
Can't speak for women, but first experience with what happens with my gear when it finally reaches climax sure was memorable.
I was in the bathroom fiddling with it for to long when finally I stated to cum. God what a shocking experience. Shot my load all over the garbage can the wall the toilet roll everywhere.
I have never had a similar experience since in my life.
Nothing, absolutely nothing can compare to that first cum shot. Pity I was alone.
I wouldnt be surprised if most girls have experienced their first orgasm long before they lose that hymen.
And thats basically the thing that keeps me from goiving much interest in virginity. For a guy its just finally getting your cock in a woman. For a girl its just a painful moment required to get full use out of a man.
Virginity is way over rated.
Spiritual virginity.....well I think thats making something out of something that was never there. But I won't spend a lot of time on why I say what I say in my signature.
Born Again Virgins, Myths and Pythons
Belilica brings up an interesting point, I think – “Born-Again Virginity”. My interpretation of that, from listening to a friend who is a Jewish born-again Christian (a rare breed indeed), is that being a ‘born-again virgin’ is purely a spiritual and mental concept. It is engaging in sexual relations with the ‘enlightenment’ of biblical concepts of Sex. There enters a spiritual nature to the act, a consciousness of a ‘purer’ ideal of sex, it purpose, and pleasure. However, in the physical realm, once you’ve first engaged in sexual intercourse, you are no longer a virgin. Simple as that. In that realm, the term ‘virgin’ can best be considered ‘slang’ for ‘One who has not yet ridden the one-eyed python of earthly delights’.
And dear Leslie, so nice to see you continuing to contribute to the topic. Thank you for sharing your ‘first time’ with us. Certainly the first is never forgotten. However, I would like to point out that many little girls end up ‘breaking’ their hymen through some physical activity other than sex, long before their first experience with intercourse. I have read that this myth regarding a woman’s hymen remaining intact until their first sexual encounter is passe.
Granted, in our current collective consciousness, Virginity may well be overrated; it certainly carries none of the degree of dignity and regard it once did. It is debatable whether it should ever have been given such esteem; the subject in general also is highly debatable.
But your particular use of words describing why you do not give much interest to virginity slightly bothered me, Leslie. If I may be so bold, and beg your pardon, to quote you, you said, “And thats basically the thing that keeps me from goiving (sic) much interest in virginity. For a guy its just finally getting your cock in a woman. For a girl its just a painful moment required to get full use out of a man.”
Would you care to elaborate and clarify that feeling, Leslie? With all due respect it comes across – at least to me – as slightly misogynous. In your phrasing, you connote that a woman uses sex to ‘get full use out of a man’ i.e. using sex for “favor”. Forgive me if that is not what you meant, but it does come across that way. (And yes, I will admit that women have indeed used sex for favors, but that is a whole other topic). We’re talking VIRGINS here, my good man! lol
I cannot defend your reasoning for a man, simply because 1) I am not a man, and 2) most men often will admit their primary goal in pursuing a woman is for sex lol.
Ultimately though, Leslie, what does your feeling/lack of interest in virginity really have to do with being a Virgin? I’m sincerely curious.
And lastly – what about LOVE? Have we forgotten that aspect of sex, and the topic at hand? Or does raising such a question now sound the battle cry for the debate “Love and Sex Together…When, How and if Ever”…
Belilica brings up an interesting point, I think – “Born-Again Virginity”. My interpretation of that, from listening to a friend who is a Jewish born-again Christian (a rare breed indeed), is that being a ‘born-again virgin’ is purely a spiritual and mental concept. It is engaging in sexual relations with the ‘enlightenment’ of biblical concepts of Sex. There enters a spiritual nature to the act, a consciousness of a ‘purer’ ideal of sex, it purpose, and pleasure. However, in the physical realm, once you’ve first engaged in sexual intercourse, you are no longer a virgin. Simple as that. In that realm, the term ‘virgin’ can best be considered ‘slang’ for ‘One who has not yet ridden the one-eyed python of earthly delights’.
And dear Leslie, so nice to see you continuing to contribute to the topic. Thank you for sharing your ‘first time’ with us. Certainly the first is never forgotten. However, I would like to point out that many little girls end up ‘breaking’ their hymen through some physical activity other than sex, long before their first experience with intercourse. I have read that this myth regarding a woman’s hymen remaining intact until their first sexual encounter is passe.
Granted, in our current collective consciousness, Virginity may well be overrated; it certainly carries none of the degree of dignity and regard it once did. It is debatable whether it should ever have been given such esteem; the subject in general also is highly debatable.
But your particular use of words describing why you do not give much interest to virginity slightly bothered me, Leslie. If I may be so bold, and beg your pardon, to quote you, you said, “And thats basically the thing that keeps me from goiving (sic) much interest in virginity. For a guy its just finally getting your cock in a woman. For a girl its just a painful moment required to get full use out of a man.”
Would you care to elaborate and clarify that feeling, Leslie? With all due respect it comes across – at least to me – as slightly misogynous. In your phrasing, you connote that a woman uses sex to ‘get full use out of a man’ i.e. using sex for “favor”. Forgive me if that is not what you meant, but it does come across that way. (And yes, I will admit that women have indeed used sex for favors, but that is a whole other topic). We’re talking VIRGINS here, my good man! lol
I cannot defend your reasoning for a man, simply because 1) I am not a man, and 2) most men often will admit their primary goal in pursuing a woman is for sex lol.
Ultimately though, Leslie, what does your feeling/lack of interest in virginity really have to do with being a Virgin? I’m sincerely curious.
And lastly – what about LOVE? Have we forgotten that aspect of sex, and the topic at hand? Or does raising such a question now sound the battle cry for the debate “Love and Sex Together…When, How and if Ever”…
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Hmmm guess my lack of knowledge is showing.
I have never met or had a virgin. As such I am only familiar with gals losing their hymen through say sport activity. Otherwise I have no practical experience in taking a womans virginity with my cock or otherwise.
As for full use of a man. That was just me saying I assume plenty enough girls lose it through having the male member thrust in them with that purpose in mind. Although my inability to enjoy a woman's pain would make it hell for me too.
Again I won't comment on spiritual matters and just skip offending those that enjoy matters of that sort.
As for my lack of interest, no I am merely stating that I possess no obsession with giving a girl her first time (as is the case with a lot of men).
The first time though is hard to define. Does my not yet then wife pulling down my pants in the park to pump me empty with her hand count. Or must I have an erect cock inserted in a woman to lose my virginity. Or was it that first load in the bathroom (oh man I wish I came like that all the time).
On matters of love well I could say a million things (most would meet with your approval I think).
I have never met or had a virgin. As such I am only familiar with gals losing their hymen through say sport activity. Otherwise I have no practical experience in taking a womans virginity with my cock or otherwise.
As for full use of a man. That was just me saying I assume plenty enough girls lose it through having the male member thrust in them with that purpose in mind. Although my inability to enjoy a woman's pain would make it hell for me too.
Again I won't comment on spiritual matters and just skip offending those that enjoy matters of that sort.
As for my lack of interest, no I am merely stating that I possess no obsession with giving a girl her first time (as is the case with a lot of men).
The first time though is hard to define. Does my not yet then wife pulling down my pants in the park to pump me empty with her hand count. Or must I have an erect cock inserted in a woman to lose my virginity. Or was it that first load in the bathroom (oh man I wish I came like that all the time).
On matters of love well I could say a million things (most would meet with your approval I think).
