God may have created aliens, but he did not make man GAY!

[WboroBaptM0134]

Seriously, how can you think a book about collective intelligence of the masses has anything to do with 'belief in unrestricted free market economics' except for when it has a function in one? Is it the word 'economics' on the cover? That scares you away or something?

Because thats what free market economics relies upon as its justification, the collective intelligence of the masses! As usual I'm one step ahead of ya buddy!

 

[Cleophila]

I've tried to offer you a chance to argue logically and rationally in favour of your point, but you appear to have decided simply to ignore my reasoning. I can only conclude that, despite your suggestions to the contrary, you are unable to demonstrate with flawless logic that homosexuality is inherently wrong and all gay people are in defiance of God's natural law. I had wished, much as I completely oppose your viewpoint, to allow you a platform for reasoned debate as that was what you asked for, but it would appear you'd rather exchange intolerant insults.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

I've tried to offer you a chance to argue logically and rationally in favour of your point, but you appear to have decided simply to ignore my reasoning. I can only conclude that, despite your suggestions to the contrary, you are unable to demonstrate with flawless logic that homosexuality is inherently wrong and all gay people are in defiance of God's natural law. I had wished, much as I completely oppose your viewpoint, to allow you a platform for reasoned debate as that was what you asked for, but it would appear you'd rather exchange intolerant insults.

I gave you an argument, You haven't responded to the last or are unwilling to listen! Where have I insulted anyone?

 

[Allyourbase]

Because thats what free market economics relies upon as its justification, the collective intelligence of the masses! As usual I'm one step ahead of ya buddy!

Okaaay. Buddy huh. What gender do you think I am, again? Or does this mean you think we're friends?

Also: one step ahead? *looks around* Where are we going then exactly? I just offered you a good read about how what everyone always thinks (the masses, they dumb) isn't always true, and you refuse to read it because you have this erroneous idea that it might, might just be all about advocating free market economics? And what if it was, don't you read up on the enemy? You're here, aren't you?

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

I've tried to offer you a chance to argue logically and rationally in favour of your point, but you appear to have decided simply to ignore my reasoning. I can only conclude that, despite your suggestions to the contrary, you are unable to demonstrate with flawless logic that homosexuality is inherently wrong and all gay people are in defiance of God's natural law. I had wished, much as I completely oppose your viewpoint, to allow you a platform for reasoned debate as that was what you asked for, but it would appear you'd rather exchange intolerant insults.

What problem do you have with the detection of evil through analyzing consequence? And why would you fail to see the Satan is a force for evil? I mean if we sanctify homosexuality why not go a step further and sanctify bestiality? Or pedophiles? Whats the difference, they're all apparently types of valid sexuality.

 

[OldScratch2011]

Well loads of them work in the world bank!! Heh, wikileaks is going to deal with that evil!! No its just that their race has been punished more than any other until the end times they shall suffer!

The Jews I know don't appear to be suffering. Blanket proclamations of that sort discredit you and God. There is no intelligence to them. Work harder buddy. It's just not believable. Contrary to the gospel, humans are not sheep. They think, they ask questions, it's a sign of maturity. They are growing up as a species. Slowly, yes, but the time for this evangelistic stuff is nearly over. The Dark Ages of man are long past. You would usher in a new darkness and ignorance with such belief. Faith in God and faith in oneself are nearly identical. Grow with the human race or be left behind. They are amazing and will be more so in the ages to come. Don't be the embarrassing smudge left behind. Join them in their faith and their aspirations. Not this philosophy of a bygone era.

 

[teknight]

You've not driven me off, although you are very off putting.
You are a liar and incapable of communicating. You've not addressed my questions, nor my offer for me to convert to your religion.
What's more, you gloat that you've driven me away, which is not what you' wanna do, as god's worker.
You fail and fail and fail.

 

[teknight]

The Jews I know don't appear to be suffering. Blanket proclamations of that sort discredit you and God. There is no intelligence to them. Work harder buddy. It's just not believable. Contrary to the gospel, humans are not sheep. They think, they ask questions, it's a sign of maturity. They are growing up as a species. Slowly, yes, but the time for this evangelistic stuff is nearly over. The Dark Ages of man are long past. You would usher in a new darkness and ignorance with such belief. Faith in God and faith in oneself are nearly identical. Grow with the human race or be left behind. They are amazing and will be more so in the ages to come. Don't be the embarrassing smudge left behind. Join them in their faith and their aspirations. Not this philosophy of a bygone era.

Oh, come on, devil!
You know damn well that shepherds (and thus maybe sheep fuckers) wrote the bible. That's why you keep getting silly references to the lord's flock and what not.
And I don't want this guy to grow, much as that's impossible to happen. Can it get left behind in the dark ages?

Besides, it's not a philosophy. It's an inchoate attempt at philosophy, based on the random (although, subsequently edited) ramblings of 2000 year old fools.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

The Jews I know don't appear to be suffering. Blanket proclamations of that sort discredit you and God. There is no intelligence to them. Work harder buddy. It's just not believable. Contrary to the gospel, humans are not sheep. They think, they ask questions, it's a sign of maturity. They are growing up as a species. Slowly, yes, but the time for this evangelistic stuff is nearly over. The Dark Ages of man are long past. You would usher in a new darkness and ignorance with such belief. Faith in God and faith in oneself are nearly identical. Grow with the human race or be left behind. They are amazing and will be more so in the ages to come. Don't be the embarrassing smudge left behind. Join them in their faith and their aspirations. Not this philosophy of a bygone era.

Thats just what the Germans thought! heh heh! Nine...das juden have been cursed as a race and I'm not talking about individuals. Did they not ask Rome to administer the kingdom of Israel for they could not themselves? Through the activities of the Zealots, was not Rome forced to destroy Herod's kingdom and reestablish the province of Judea and take the conquered as slaves as was Rome's policy? Were not the jews in exodus forever after? Did not the jews suffer terrible hurt in the various countries they travelled too? Did not the greatest evil of modern times befall them? For yea!! truly a curse follows this people in all its doings, and yet they were the most beloved of God, the chosen ones. Woe be that they are to suffer the worst!

 

[teknight]

What problem do you have with the detection of evil through analyzing consequence? And why would you fail to see the Satan is a force for evil? I mean if we sanctify homosexuality why not go a step further and sanctify bestiality? Or pedophiles? Whats the difference, they're all apparently types of valid sexuality.

Hey, shit stain*, no one wants to sanctify anything. Sexual behavior between consenting adults is OK (marry them if you insist on morality). Having sex with kids and animals ( you know, the ones that you said are unlike man, in that they lack will) is wrong because of the unfair power exchange. It's unfair because neither the kids nor the animals can choose. Thus it is rape. That's what makes those behaviors wrong, G.


*you will only reply to the shit stain comment, because your ego blinds you.

 

[Cleophila]

Where have I insulted anyone?

A few examples of unpleasantness. I don't know whether the targets of these comments all found them offensive, but I certainly did.

arabs are the footsoldiers of Satan, you can tell with their dark skin and bad noses.

Ok we understand your Gay. But remember God hates Fags, didn't you read the sign?

Oh yeah and isn't it true that Gays get more diseases? Satans work, I think so.

Only someone as evil as you would have such an idea.

You're actually siding with this Nazi?! He'll probably run you over too.

I just pulled this out of a dictionary, moron

"By their actions, ye shall know them."

"Fuck...stupid....dumb-ass....lie....false." Your words buddy.

Are not jews money lenders all?

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Hey, shit stain*, no one wants to sanctify anything. Sexual behavior between consenting adults is OK (marry them if you insist on morality). Having sex with kids and animals ( you know, the ones that you said are unlike man, in that they lack will) is wrong because of the unfair power exchange. It's unfair because neither the kids nor the animals can choose. Thus it is rape. That's what makes those behaviors wrong, G.


*you will only reply to the shit stain comment, because your ego blinds you.

That argument fails. What if the animal chooses to have sex with the human?

 

[teknight]

That argument fails. What if the animal chooses to have sex with the human?

If the animal chooses, then it can choose to be gay, huh?

See? You fail yet again.

 

[Cleophila]

I mean if we sanctify homosexuality why not go a step further and sanctify bestiality? Or pedophiles? Whats the difference, they're all apparently types of valid sexuality.

Are they? How would paedophilia be at all similar to homosexuality? The huge difference there comes in how on the one hand we have loving relationships between informed consenting adults and on the other abuse and rape. Can you really suggest this is the same thing?

 

[teknight]

A few examples of unpleasantness. I don't know whether the targets of these comments all found them offensive, but I certainly did.

I think the OP needs to apologize, again. It apologized to Stella, so it admitted being WRONG.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

A few examples of unpleasantness. I don't know whether the targets of these comments all found them offensive, but I certainly did.

No those examples are pulled out of context. when i used bad language I was mirroring what was said to me. Gosh for someone who claims to be so fair, just take a look at whats been said to me! And also I just stated my belief about arabs and Gays. I didn't insult them. For the other comments go and look in context. They aren't insults but replies to.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

I think the OP needs to apologize, again. It apologized to Stella, so it admitted being WRONG.

Hey buddy why don't you apologize to me!! You called me far worse than anything I've said!

 

[OldScratch2011]

Thats just what the Germans thought! heh heh! Nine...das juden have been cursed as a race and I'm not talking about individuals. Did they not ask Rome to administer the kingdom of Israel for they could not themselves? Through the activities of the Zealots, was not Rome forced to destroy Herod's kingdom and reestablish the province of Judea and take the conquered as slaves as was Rome's policy? Were not the jews in exodus forever after? Did not the jews suffer terrible hurt in the various countries they travelled too? Did not the greatest evil of modern times befall them? For yea!! truly a curse follows this people in all its doings, and yet they were the most beloved of God, the chosen ones. Woe be that they are to suffer the worst!

A history unproved by a book rewritten and censured hundreds of times through out these many centuries.

I've told you before. I know God, far better than you ever possibly could or even understand. Your rants will be your undoing. I admire your passion. You can do better. Do it right. Or not at all. Don't associate your outworn ignorant religious fervor with God. It's embarrassing.

Here I am trying to enlighten you. Sigh.

Be well all, I have other things to attend to.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Are they? How would paedophilia be at all similar to homosexuality? The huge difference there comes in how on the one hand we have loving relationships between informed consenting adults and on the other abuse and rape. Can you really suggest this is the same thing?

What about a loving relationship between a boy and a man? After all the Ancient Greeks practiced this! Where do you draw the line?

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

A history unproved by a book rewritten and censured hundreds of times through out these many centuries.

I've told you before. I know God, far better than you ever possibly could or even understand. Your rants will be your undoing. I admire your passion. You can do better. Do it right. Or not at all. Don't associate your outworn ignorant religious fervor with God. It's embarrassing.

Here I am trying to enlighten you. Sigh.

Be well all, I have other things to attend to.

Oh how then shouldst I do it right oh dark one?

 

[teknight]

No those examples are pulled out of context. when i used bad language I was mirroring what was said to me. Gosh for someone who claims to be so fair, just take a look at whats been said to me! And also I just stated my belief about arabs and Gays. I didn't insult them. For the other comments go and look in context. They aren't insults but replies to.

Since you've apologized to Stella, you admit what you did was wrong.

Hey buddy why don't you apologize to me!! You called me far worse than anything I've said!

I don't have to apologize. Besides, don't you have god's armor on, shitstain? I thought our comments couldn't hurt you. Guess not, huh?

Why should I apologize to you? You've not proven to deserve it.

And don't call me buddy. You and I are not friends, LIAR.

Oh, I see. The statements you make are OK, but god forbid YOU should be insulted? WHO ARE YOU TO MERIT SPECIAL TREATMENT? It seems to me you're not fit to do god's work.

 

[Cleophila]

What problem do you have with the detection of evil through analyzing consequence? And why would you fail to see the Satan is a force for evil?

I have no problem seeing the effects of people's wrong actions as evidence of their wrongdoing, this is just the sort of thing I would like to see you argue. Yet, what 'evil consequences' are there in two men or two women living happily in love?

I fail to see how Lucifer of the judeo-christian tradition is a force for evil just by opposing Jehovah. I refer you to my earlier remarks that you did not comment on before...

God is the creator. Satans first sin was making war on God. His next to purposely deny mankind eternal life. Everything Satan does is for evil purpose. I'd say thats a pretty good definition of a villain no?

Once again, you make broad, sweeping statements like 'Everything Satan does is for evil purpose', so once again I must respond with 'You can't just say something is evil and that makes it so'. You say his sin was in giving mankind knowledge, how can knowledge be wrong? You say his sin was denying mankind eternal life, how can eternal life be 'natural'? You say his sin was defying Jehovah, but as I said, how is that wrong unless Jehovah is shown to be right?

God shows all the time why he is right. And sometimes its painful when we've gone wrong and he reminds us.

Again, broad statements, no evidence. When does he show us why he is right? How?

Also Hell aint no picnic. Believe me you wouldn't want to choose that over Heaven.

'Better to reign in hell than to serve in heaven', no?

Show me how Jehovah is good or Lucifer bad and I will better understand your view, simply stating that they are what you say they are is not enough.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Since you've apologized to Stella, you admit what you did was wrong.

I don't have to apologize. Besides, don't you have god's armor on, shitstain? I thought our comments couldn't hurt you. Guess not, huh?

Why should I apologize to you? You've not proven to deserve it.

And don't call me buddy. You and I are not friends, LIAR.

Oh, I see. The statements you make are OK, but god forbid YOU should be insulted? WHO ARE YOU TO MERIT SPECIAL TREATMENT? It seems to me you're not fit to do god's work.

Ok here you go. I apologize to and love all whom I may have offended. I can do it. Can you? And anyone would see that you have been by far the most offensive of this forums. By I should publish the PMs you've been sending me.

 

[Cleophila]

No those examples are pulled out of context. when i used bad language I was mirroring what was said to me. Gosh for someone who claims to be so fair, just take a look at whats been said to me! And also I just stated my belief about arabs and Gays. I didn't insult them. For the other comments go and look in context. They aren't insults but replies to.

I used the phrase 'exchange intolerant insults' to convey this. If somebody insults you, that is not a call to sling the same thing back at them. And to refer to an entire race as 'footsoldiers of Satan' regardless of their moral, spiritual, religious etc. outlook is, I would say, beyond an acceptable 'belief' to express and moving strongly into being 'intolerant'.

 

[teknight]

Ok here you go. I apologize to and love all whom I may have offended. I can do it. Can you? And anyone would see that you have been by far the most offensive of this forums. By I should publish the PMs you've been sending me.

Do it! You'll get banned for breaking lit rules.
I've told you the exact same things in PMs, that I've told you publicly, called you the exact same names, offered you the same advice, posed the same questions.

I don't want your love. I don't want you to lie. It's your soul on the line, not mine.

Oh, btw, if you're gonna try German, the word is "Nein" for "No." But, you're stupid and you don't care that you come across as stupid.