God may have created aliens, but he did not make man GAY!

[WboroBaptM0134]

what's your excuse? Why are you such a sad and sorry sucker? Being both xtian and hetero, you should have it made-- instead here you are peddling your shoddy threadbare excuses on a porn site on the internet.

you poor deluded little man. I pity you.

And you need to try wiping your ass once more, you're still whiffy.

I do have it made, I'M GOING TO HEAVEN, but I want you to come with me.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Ummm no I've never been happier to get away from the Church.

Ummm excuse me but you are on the same porn website. Probably with your dick out right now stroking it. Seeing what thread you are in. probably staring at gay men. Thinking if you start this whole debate that you will realize yourself that you are not attracted to men.


Umm no I dont believe in "the teachings" If it wasnt for the parents I wouldnt have been in the church to begin with.

So you never really chose the church, you're parents did. Why don't you look into it.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I do have it made, I'M GOING TO HEAVEN, but I want you to come with me.

How stupid can you possibly be?

You named your moronic self after the Westboro baptist church. They are psychopaths. They embrace the ugliest of evil committed in the name of Jesus. The only place you'll be going in their company is straight to hell, if you believe in hell.

I wouldn't go two steps in your company, any more than I'd walk with a turd.

 

[lustatopia]

Sorry, about that earlier post, I live next to the Jim Jones Memorial Church of Our Lady Christ in Waco and sometime loan out my computer to the cleaner looking bums seeking shelter there...

 

[lustatopia]

Well, heck, reading what Billy Joe wrote, I feel like I want to add my own 2 cents for what all that'll buy you...

Look, if you think about it, Heaven must be a pretty dull place if it is populated by pompous self-righteous twits who KNOW they're going there in advance. Actually, anyone who KNOWS they are going to heaven is guaranteed to go to hell, by definition. (Or is already there now!)

But let's compare value for money, just what does heaven and hell have to offer you and your family as an eternal holiday package-deal destination?

First, Hell, because it's highly underrated, IMO.

Hell's dark, but well lit by neon and various sulfurous firepits. A sort of unworld Vegas. You can't get a tan unless you stand to close to the pyroclastic flows. But it's open 24/7 just like Vegas. Four star accommodations.

Hell's got non-stop entertainment. Practically every dead Hollywood star is there and most of them continue working on stage for millennia. In fact, just about anyone who every achieved anything in this world is going to hell. Every politician, war hero, shock jocks, stock brokers, climate scientists, union leaders, CEOs, free masons and all the hottest babes too. After all the only way to get into heaven is to keep your dick limp or your legs crossed and do nothing, you know, just run the clock out sitting on the ball. Heaven is full of useless heathens like that. Too frighten to live, eager to die. But I digress...

In hell there's plenty of cheap whores, whiskey, pimps, girlieboys, brothels, guns, drugs, smugglers, coyotes, taxi stands, pawn shops, glory holes, lots and lots of glitz, swimming pools, billionaires, you name it. It's just like Earth only much more like Earth..like a David Lynch movie...alot of red velvet...and you can't die because you're already dead and you don't need money. Your currency is based upon however notorious you became on Earth. So make your roll now, you DO take it with you! Naturally, Bill Gates will be the Bill Gates of hell. A lowlife pimp achieves the same standard of life in hell. Make your mark now. It's the American way.

And that all stuff about the devil torturing the hell bound. Nonsense. The devil is a lazy mutherfucker.

He kicks backs and allows the hell bound torture themselves the same way they do on Earth. Actually, the devil more like a Hugh Hefner, a good host, he swans around in a tux keeping the liquor flowing and pussy fresh for the celebs. After all if you ain't got anything to compare pain to then it isn't pain. Got that? So hell has to be just like Earth-- a series of euphoric highs and orgasms followed by stunning defeats, shame, regrets and humiliations. Oh, sure, you'll feel plenty of heartbreak in hell, I guarantee that, but first they have to charge you up with pleasure just to let you crash. Once you hit bottom, the cycle up begins again. Just like here on good ol' Earth.

Only you can't end it all. Pfft. Big Deal. Well, I suppose you can jump off a building, but it's hell! You won't die, it will sure hurt like hell when you hit the pavement. A better idea is to slam down a handful of valiums wash it down with whiskey (free as water in hell, fact is, there is no water in hell) and sleep it off. You'll always feel better in the morning no matter how hard the clusterfuck was on your ass the night before.

Now let's look at the heaven all expenses paid holiday for eternity...

Heaven compared to hell is sheer contentment. Not pleasure, because pleasure can only exist in comparison to pain. Without pain there is no pleasure. So no pleasure in heaven. Zip. Nada.

Heaven is nothing but bright white light and the song of Angels, a bit like Phillip Glass's Einstein on the Beach only so loud that you feel it in your heart. Only one song though. That's it. There is no fear, hate, lust, love, drugs, pleasures, pains, aches, defeat, humiliation, hungry, thirst, orgasms or drunks, no nothing in heaven but peace and total contentment. All desires have vanished.

Got that, Bubba, nothing but Peace!

Think about it. Nothing but peace. They taught you that it would be dark when you're dead. Wrong! There is nothing but white light. And peace. You have been absorbed back into the universal whole and dispersed like dust. There is no "you" anymore, because if there was a you, with all your memories and experiences, you sure as hell wouldn't be at peace for eternity. By definition, heavenly peace means the dissolution of your soul, your very identity into the cosmic whole. God (or whoever, more on that in the next post!) recycles these sub-atomic particles back into new souls and casts them screaming in pain back down into the physical world. But you, you're history, dude. Everything. Puff. Gone. Fini. That's peace for you.

Now, I'm not saying that totally dissolving yourself in the sweet embrace of the nothingness of white light isn't for some people. It's just not me. I'm just not sick of living that much, even when I die I'm still gonna want some more pussy, a good stiff cocktail (pun intended) and might even want to kick some ass. So for me, hell is the natural choice for my eternally hedonistic holiday.

Hey, to each his own! Aloha!

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

oh man, you're going to hurt his widdle feewings talking so mean.

Its amazing. I'm like a mirror, can you see your own reflection? Your feelings have obviously been hurt very badly by my proselytizing the truth!

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

I,m ready , I see the light. Pkease fall on your knee,s and suck satan out of my poor evel body.

Get down on year knees and pray. Ask God to forgive you and enter your life.

 

[kinkycaveman]

Get down on year knees. Ask God to enter you.

Wow. There's a visual.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Wow. There's a visual.

Your mind is full of sickness son. Of course you imagine everything that is said as a sexual act.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Its amazing. I'm like a mirror, can you see your own reflection? Your feelings have obviously been hurt very badly by my proselytizing the truth!

I have sat in the ER after being physically attacked by people like you. I have waited in ER for men who have been beaten for being gay.

I have watched the Mormon church convince the state of California that gay people don't need to be married to their most beloved partners.

Your lies are not truth. Your jokes are not funny. I am gay from birth--you are garbage by your actions.

YOu have made nearly one thousand posts, and every one of them is garbage.

I am putting you on nuclear ignore. You will, I 'm sure caper and claim that means you've won. You've reminded me, yet again why religion is a steaming pile of shit. If that's what you intended, then sure-- you've won.

 

[DarkBee]

I have sat in the ER after being physically attacked by people like you. I have waited in ER for men who have been beaten for being gay.

I have watched the Mormon church convince the state of California that gay people don't need to be married to their most beloved partners.

Your lies are not truth. Your jokes are not funny. I am gay from birth--you are garbage by your actions.

YOu have made nearly one thousand posts, and every one of them is garbage.

I am putting you on nuclear ignore. You will, I 'm sure caper and claim that means you've won. You've reminded me, yet again why religion is a steaming pile of shit. If that's what you intended, then sure-- you've won.

And that, Stella, is why you are totally awesome and this reli-troll is a big pile of fail.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

And that, Stella, is why you are totally awesome and this reli-troll is a big pile of fail.

"And the sinners shall raise their idols to the sky, and dance for joy without knowledge."

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

I have sat in the ER after being physically attacked by people like you. I have waited in ER for men who have been beaten for being gay.

I have watched the Mormon church convince the state of California that gay people don't need to be married to their most beloved partners.

Your lies are not truth. Your jokes are not funny. I am gay from birth--you are garbage by your actions.

YOu have made nearly one thousand posts, and every one of them is garbage.

I am putting you on nuclear ignore. You will, I 'm sure caper and claim that means you've won. You've reminded me, yet again why religion is a steaming pile of shit. If that's what you intended, then sure-- you've won.

Ah now I see, but you're confusing the physical attacks and the church voting against gay marriage. You seem unable to distinguish and thus you are emotional. Obviously Jesus does not teach us to attack other people. So those who beat you and your friends are evil doers. However for a church to vote against gay marriage is quite right, for the homosexual community seeks to overturn (unwittingly) the very definition of what marriage is. Why not choose another word to define your civil partnership? Why so intent on disrupting language. For if we allow the meanings of words to change, then our language will fail and we shall not be able to communicate clearly which I think is whats going on here. You try to shock me stories of violence against you and your friends, but truly thats an all or nothing game. We are either with you totally in what you believe, or completely against and your enemy. And then you spit abuse against us.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

I believe I've demonstrated quite clearly why Christianity is so wonderful. Up above I am attacked but I know to forgive. See if we are attacked violently the instinct is to attack back which creates a violent circle of non communication and thence to hate and war. Society becomes a hell it cannot escape from for everyone. Jesus above all teaches forgiveness on a personal level and if a person is able to follow that, it has implications on the global level. In short, to forgive those whom you perceive as against you, or to forgive violence done to you is the only solution there is. There is no other way. Its a clear choice. And Jesus teaches this.

 

[the_apocalypse]

I believe I've demonstrated quite clearly why Christianity is so wonderful. Up above I am attacked but I know to forgive. See if we are attacked violently the instinct is to attack back which creates a violent circle of non communication and thence to hate and war. Society becomes a hell it cannot escape from for everyone. Jesus above all teaches forgiveness on a personal level and if a person is able to follow that, it has implications on the global level. In short, to forgive those whom you perceive as against you, or to forgive violence done to you is the only solution there is. There is no other way. Its a clear choice. And Jesus teaches this.

Are you fucking here again. It seems to me that, for someone so religious, you spend and aawful lot of time on a site geared towards adults of all sexualities. Are you sure you're not the one seeking YOUR true self

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Are you fucking here again. It seems to me that, for someone so religious, you spend and aawful lot of time on a site geared towards adults of all sexualities. Are you sure you're not the one seeking YOUR true self

This is the correct place for a message of love and forgiveness

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Are you fucking here again. It seems to me that, for someone so religious, you spend and aawful lot of time on a site geared towards adults of all sexualities. Are you sure you're not the one seeking YOUR true self

Have you read how viciously people have been attacking me? Without knowing anything about me. And I don't bite back. Point proven!

 

[the_apocalypse]

This is the correct place for a message of love and forgiveness

True and the people here quite happily express their love, wheter they are gay, straight, bisexual or transsexual and should be ree to do so without you ramming religiong down their throats and chastising the very lifestyle we wish to lead. You are not spreading love and forgiveness, what the fuck is there to forgive anyway, you are trying to brainwash people into your way of thinking. And that is the actions of a cult not a religion

 

[teknight]

I believe I've demonstrated quite clearly why Christianity is so wonderful. Up above I am attacked but I know to forgive. See if we are attacked violently the instinct is to attack back which creates a violent circle of non communication and thence to hate and war. Society becomes a hell it cannot escape from for everyone. Jesus above all teaches forgiveness on a personal level and if a person is able to follow that, it has implications on the global level. In short, to forgive those whom you perceive as against you, or to forgive violence done to you is the only solution there is. There is no other way. Its a clear choice. And Jesus teaches this.

Yet, God hates fags is a message you preach, you charlatan.
You teach and preach intolerance, otherwise, you wouldn't be here insulting homosexuals and saying that they are wrong for being them.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

True and the people here quite happily express their love, wheter they are gay, straight, bisexual or transsexual and should be ree to do so without you ramming religiong down their throats and chastising the very lifestyle we wish to lead. You are not spreading love and forgiveness, what the fuck is there to forgive anyway, you are trying to brainwash people into your way of thinking. And that is the actions of a cult not a religion

You think christianity is a cult? Pretty big cult Id say, must be something to it. I haven't encounterd much love here on these forums I must say. I'm not trying to brainwash people. I'm raising a fundamental issue. Homosexuality is a sin according to God! No one has disproved this so far and very few attempts. So if you don't believe in God then you're free to anything you like. Why stop at homosexuality? Why not break all known moral boundaries just for the hell of it. See where it gets you!

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Yet, God hates fags is a message you preach, you charlatan.
You teach and preach intolerance, otherwise, you wouldn't be here insulting homosexuals and saying that they are wrong for being them.

God hates sin!

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Yet, God hates fags is a message you preach, you charlatan.
You teach and preach intolerance, otherwise, you wouldn't be here insulting homosexuals and saying that they are wrong for being them.

God hates sin! Thats just it. They are not defined by homosexuality. They are people, human beings and can make a choice.

 

[bi_bbl]

You think christianity is a cult?

Cult (from Dictionary.com)

cult - /kʌlt/ –noun

1. a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies.

Being raised Catholic (no longer claim to be one, obviously), and whose father is an ex-Catholic priest who thankfully came to his senses and got out after all the lies he saw committed, I spent many a year going to the Sunday ceremony where a "priest" would wear "ceremonial robes", do "call and response" chants, and end with a cannibalistic rite of "feeding" someone's body and blood to a public mass. So yes, by simple definition, Christianity and it's mass practices is a cult.

This is not an attack, just a clarification on definition.

Additional notes from Dictionary.com

rite /raɪt/ –noun
1. a formal or ceremonial act or procedure prescribed or customary in religious or other solemn use: rites of baptism; sacrificial rites.

 

[CJontherocks]

Let's not forget also that marriage was a societal institution long before the church took control of it. I submit that the church has no claim on defining marriage.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Let's not forget also that marriage was a societal institution long before the church took control of it. I submit that the church has no claim on defining marriage.

Our conception of marriage in the western world comes from the Bible. Marriage is a statement of unity between a man and a women before God with the purpose of raising a family. If you pervert that definition then marriage could be anything you like with no purpose. Why you could marry a dog if you liked. What would that statement mean?