God may have created aliens, but he did not make man GAY!

[WboroBaptM0134]

Just poppin by to feed the troll...

*waves*

Hi! Good to see you have your own thread now. Howyadoin? Making any progress?

Pleased with Hell?

 

[Allyourbase]

Pleased with Hell?

Is that rhetorical?

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Is that rhetorical?

Not in the least. I'm asking you if youre pleased that you're going to hell thats all.

 

[Allyourbase]

Not in the least. I'm asking you if youre pleased that you're going to hell thats all.

So I take it you're not making much progress?

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

So I take it you're not making much progress?

Oh yeah right now I'm busy converting homosexuals over on the gay thread!! Here I've won. No one can take me on!

 

[Allyourbase]

Oh yeah right now I'm busy converting homosexuals over on the gay thread!! Here I've won. No one can take me on!

Is that sarcasm?

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Is that sarcasm?

Its what I was born to do!! Hallelujah.

 

[Allyourbase]

Its what I was born to do!! Hallelujah.

Ok, born for sarcasm. Hey, can't blame me for asking Some of us are, indeed, just born that way, thass fine.

 

[Noira]

No you seriously don't get it do you? It was Satans plan to pervert every man and rule on Earth, but Gods son decided to bear the sins for us. He took upon himself the evil we propagate, and now has bought us a buffer wherein each of us will be judged upon his return! God will ultimately defeat Satan and save us through this method, but we must CHOOSE to be saved.

The choice is yours.

Okay, okay, trolls aside.

He forgave all our sins anyway.

Don't know why some omnipotent power needs to create himself as his son to be executed to do it instead of just, ya know, saying he forgives us.

(puts on theology hat) I know what I'm talking about AND I'm not a psycho troll! Huzzah!

In order for sin to be atoned for, something had to die. This was the rule set into place way back in the beginning of the Bible. Sin = death. Adam and Eve sinned, and the punishment was that they would no longer live forever: death, pain, and sin all entered the world through Satan convincing them to sin.

So the rules put in place are all laid out in the Old Testament. If people sinned, they had to sacrifice an adorable animal. This is a theme echoed throughout the Bible. In Egypt, the people who didn't sacrifice an animal and put the blood on their doorposts had their first born son killed by the angel of death on the night that became Passover night. If they had the blood from the killed animal on their doorposts, the angel of death would pass over them.

So the people leave Egypt. This is the theme set into place: the death of something perfect atones for sin and you will be passed over.

Time passes. Lots of time. More foreshadowing about Jesus is scattered throughout the Old Testament, but the Egypt captivity is the main big one that comes into play as symbolism and foreshadowing.

The sacrifice of an unblemished lamb represents that something perfect has to be sacrificed.

A regular old guy couldn't die for the sins of everyone. It had to be God, and it had to be someone who was human for EVERYONE. So, following the trend: the "first born son", the Son of God, God Incarnate in human form... has to be perfect, so that all the sin can be laid on him and therefore, killing him banishes sin. There's this whole balance deal: sin cannot exist in God's perfection, and so it has to be destroyed and can only be destroyed through the blood of something perfect. Now, through the blood of God's son being sacrificed, God can see us through these blood colored glasses. Blood atones for sin. Blood covers sin. Blood covers up the imperfections that would render us inable to exist in God's presence.

Imagine that God is one bigass light, and sin is shadows. Shadows can't exist in a light, and so if we're sinners we're in the shadows, so we get VANIQUISHED BY THE LIGHT. Blood is like a big sin eraser.

So that's why God couldn't just say "well, I forgive ya". He did just say "well, I forgive ya"... by building a bridge from here to there... something that was human enough to be here in our sinful world, and something that was God and perfect enough to be there in heaven. Blood was the bridge.

Now it's up to us to choose to say "God, I hear you saying you forgave me! Thanks! I accept!"

God can't FORCE us to believe that he forgave us. He is out there saying "guess what! I forgive you all! It's cool!" but y'know... if people don't listen. (shrugs)

For the record: being a Christian does not mean you turn into a psycho troll! Yay! For anyone who has been hurt by this person, by the church, by people who claim to be from the church... I'm sorry, forgive them, we're not all like those who claim to preach the love of God but turn around and string out curses. Satan comes in many forms, and one of them, one of his favorites, is just a little bit of wrong mixed in with a lot of truth.

And if you truly believe that homosexuality is sinful (disregarding the fact that if you look at the Bible, any and all words that might refer to homosexuality refer to men alone, that homosexuality was a word put in there in the King James translation... let's have some fun with Greek, kiddies! Knowing the original language and what the words mean is GOOD.) then you also believe the Bible when it says in James "for whosoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he is guilty of all."

It doesn't matter if you lie or you're gay--if you sinned, you're guilty of everything. There is no 'degree of sinfulness'. All sin leads to death. All of it. Period. End of discussion.

So when you say...

Its not as sinful for woman as for men as the bible has examples, but is very clear on men.

It is at this point that I know you're an uninformed troll. Know your Bible. All sin is equal. There is no "not as sinful". If you're going to fight against homosexuality, you have to be able to pull out all the stops. You can't wuss out against lesbians because you don't know the Bible.

Look, I used to be a raging homophobe, all right? I know all the arguments. I could fight for your side and win it without coming off as a psychopath.

Did not God say...."For Yea, whenst man doth couple with man, tis similar whenst donkey doth couple with horse."

(googles) No, I don't think he did. Can't find this. It could be due to your absurd attempt at King Jameification, though. I want a reference for this one. Seriously, I googled multiple versions and hit my online Bible (Bible Gateway) with all the translations you could think of. Instead of putting words in God's mouth, can we argue with real scripture? Sounding holy does not make it holy.

I probably won't be back in this thread. I'm not keen on arguing in threads and causing drama these days; even if I can still beat someone's face into the ground with scripture I don't want to. You'll have to forgive me, my dear brothers and sisters. If someone truly wants to discuss Christianity and homosexuality I'm over here in my PM box and willing to listen away from the eye of the public and the trolls. I know there are many people who have been deeply hurt by well meaning Christians, myself included, though this has not shaken anything more than my faith in said well-meaning humans.

After all, did not some person once say, you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.

This is not technically true, but the theory is sound.

is more attractive than

Here I've won. No one can take me on!

Hello.

My screenname is Noira.

I have spent days of my life weeping over people like you who absolutely shit upon everything I stand for and every effort I make to convince people that not everyone who stands on the name of Christ is a psychopath who trolls in the name of the Lord. My biggest challenge is remembering that not only must I love the sinners, but I must also love you, you who spout out cruelties and trash people into the ground in the name of vanity--not God, but vanity.

I do not need to take you on because I do not need to win. Because I understand that religion is not a pyramid scheme where if you convert 5 people, you'll get a certain amount of bonus angel points.

I would take you on, but I don't want to.

I will leave that to God, and I hope everyone else who's having fun poking the troll will leave it to God as well. It is a fight between you and him, not you and us.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Ok, born for sarcasm. Hey, can't blame me for asking Some of us are, indeed, just born that way, thass fine.

No I was born to convert homosexuals!

 

[Allyourbase]

No I was born to convert homosexuals!

Oh OK! My bad. So, making any progress?

 

[Allyourbase]

I have spent days of my life weeping over people like you who absolutely shit upon everything I stand for and every effort I make to convince people that not everyone who stands on the name of Christ is a psychopath who trolls in the name of the Lord. My biggest challenge is remembering that not only must I love the sinners, but I must also love you, you who spout out cruelties and trash people into the ground in the name of vanity--not God, but vanity.

Hi Noira!

Thanks for your effort! And don't worry, I know not every Christian is a troll in the name of Christ.

 

[Stella_Omega]

No I was born to convert homosexuals!

Are you being funnier now? I'm seeing no difference.

I am so disappointed in you.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Oh OK! My bad. So, making any progress?

Ok we are making progress. I loved that reply of Noira up above and would like to respond to it at some point.

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Are you being funnier now? I'm seeing no difference.

I am so disappointed in you.

You're taking it out of context. See the context and you'll see the love!!

 

[cdvin]

I have a few thoughts on all of this, but I learned a very long time ago it's an effort in futility to try and get someone so biased in their ways to view something realistically with such a skewed perspective.

i could not agree more

 

[Allyourbase]

Ok we are making progress.

Now that is sarcasm. Yes? Or am I wrong again?

You're taking it out of context. See the context and you'll see the love!!

Yes, yes, sarcasm. This time I'm right

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

Now that is sarcasm. Yes? Or am I wrong again?



Yes, yes, sarcasm. This time I'm right

You obviously don't know what sarcasm is. I'm never sarcastic.

 

[Allyourbase]

You obviously don't know what sarcasm is. I'm never sarcastic.

OK, OK. Sorry. It's just all so confusing. Because, well, I could swear this is sarcasm. Though I shouldn't swear. Wouldn't want to end up in hell.

 

[Wolfman1982]

How many thinks WboroBaptM0134 needs to banned or kicked the fuck away from here ?
Or hacked by Anonymous ? Cause it seems to me, of all the enemies, I have gathered over the years. This one takes the cake. Seriously, I know we should not feed the trolls , but this fellow needs to get the fuck out. WBC is probably THE ugliest face , America has produced.
I am an anti war person but picketing at dead soldiers funerals and going ape shit crazy. Is crossing the line, and even though I do not applaud the actions that has taken against WBC, such as destroying their cars with stones and LOADS of other stuff, I personally understand, accept and feel that WBC deserves the shit that is happening to them. Also I would rather eat a dick, get fucked in the asshole by a man and then going to hell, than being in so-called heaven with all the bigots, assholes, fanatics and fucking pedophile catholic priests who became "saved". Cause if that is heaven with the shitheads I have mentioned, then I think it is better in hell, and smoking of cigarettes with tobacco and cannabis (if you like that) or a mixture of it, is probably legal down there. And here I came to post an article about how fucking unfair USA is to a lesbian couple, where their homophobic neighbour has burned down their house while they were away on an anniversary celebration date.

But anyway that you can read all about here

http://unicornbooty.com/2011/03/homophobic-neighbor-burns-lesbians-home-down-on-their-anniversary/

 

[WboroBaptM0134]

How many thinks WboroBaptM0134 needs to banned or kicked the fuck away from here ?
Or hacked by Anonymous ? Cause it seems to me, of all the enemies, I have gathered over the years. This one takes the cake. Seriously, I know we should not feed the trolls , but this fellow needs to get the fuck out. WBC is probably THE ugliest face , America has produced.
I am an anti war person but picketing at dead soldiers funerals and going ape shit crazy. Is crossing the line, and even though I do not applaud the actions that has taken against WBC, such as destroying their cars with stones and LOADS of other stuff, I personally understand, accept and feel that WBC deserves the shit that is happening to them. Also I would rather eat a dick, get fucked in the asshole by a man and then going to hell, than being in so-called heaven with all the bigots, assholes, fanatics and fucking pedophile catholic priests who became "saved". Cause if that is heaven with the shitheads I have mentioned, then I think it is better in hell, and smoking of cigarettes with tobacco and cannabis (if you like that) or a mixture of it, is probably legal down there. And here I came to post an article about how fucking unfair USA is to a lesbian couple, where their homophobic neighbour has burned down their house while they were away on an anniversary celebration date.

But anyway that you can read all about here



http://unicornbooty.com/2011/03/homophobic-neighbor-burns-lesbians-home-down-on-their-anniversary/

Wolfman you are confused and no better than those you condemn. You would use force to silence that which disturbs you. The fact that I disturb you means that my message is right on the money particularly for you. Wolfman guard your soul for your righteous anger may dip you into hot water!!

Fact is God says Lesbians are WRONG! Therefore consequences!

 

[fingermagic]

Of all this forums on this heinous site, truly here is the source of perversion. OH Lord protect me here from the demons and let me slay them and their ideas forever, for 'Yay now tis truly the season of evil'.

Homosexuals were certainly not in the plan of God. This is a perversion designed by, you guessed it, your pal, Satan. Who only wants to consume your withered souls for breakfast. Every time you commit folly of coupling with another man, you damn yourself, and is this not evidenced by what happens to a mans physical appearance when he engages in such behavior? His features become softened half like a woman but WRONG. He speaks with a high pitched voice and loses his mind instead being attracted to infantile things.

Oh it does remind me of that story by Xenophon, that when the Greeks, escaping from Cyrus the persian marched back through unknown lands, they came upon strange tribes where the men had grown fat and lazy. These men were said to be highly praised by their tribes and tittered like girls, adorning themselves with jewelry. What did these hardened Greek warriors do when traveling through this barbaric land on their way home. They made it a point to stop and slay every last one of these wretches for being abominations. Then then pillaged the villages and took the spoils home. After a vicious route from Persia, nothing felt quite so satisfying.

Oh homosexuals, like a plague in our land.... BEWARE for your Greek cometh!!!

Ha, you funny!

 

[Safe_Bet]

Fact is God says Lesbians are WRONG!

You fundies got your Greek translated incorrectly again. God said that lesbians RULE.




The fact of the matter is that Jesus was actually queer himself!

I mean look at the facts:

• The dude wore a dress.

• The dude liked peter the best.

• The dude spent one hell of a lot of time on his knees in front of his MALE disciples.

• The dude went all "Stonewall" at the Temple.

• The dude hung out at the Garden of Gethsemane (obviously one of the queer bars of that time period)

• Right after hanging out at the queer bar, the dude got nailed by a bunch of Italian guys.

Lastly, how do we know Jesus was gay??? We've got pictures!!!


http://img161.imagevenue.com/loc171/th_419631620_Jesusblow_123_171lo.jpg

 

[DarkBee]

You fundies got your Greek translated incorrectly again. God said that lesbians RULE.




The fact of the matter is that Jesus was actually queer himself!

I mean look at the facts:

• The dude wore a dress.

• The dude liked peter the best.

• The dude spent one hell of a lot of time on his knees in front of his MALE disciples.

• The dude went all "Stonewall" at the Temple.

• The dude hung out at the Garden of Gethsemane (obviously one of the queer bars of that time period)

• Right after hanging out at the queer bar, the dude got nailed by a bunch of Italian guys.

Lastly, how do we know Jesus was gay??? We've got pictures!!!


http://img161.imagevenue.com/loc171/th_419631620_Jesusblow_123_171lo.jpg

EPIC. WIN!

Sometimes, blasphemy is just too much fun to pass up on.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XWMHOKSnvhg/R5rKRfrCV5I/AAAAAAAACj0/mcbNSTk0zC4/s400/blasphemy.jpg

 

[geronimo_appleby]

don't feed the troll.