God Rigs Election: It's Bush In A "blowout"

[The_Fool]

My lower lip quivers uncontrollably when I'm aroused; some men find it sexy. Later if I tell a friend what made it quiver it starts again (quivering) and they know what I've been doing.

Perdita

Darling, everything about you is sexy...

Oh shit...did I say that out loud?

Always a Fool

 

[Guest]

s'OK, Fool.

Perdita

 

[KenJames]

Oh, come on! I disagree with Colly in most political arguments, but the quality of her arguments is always spot on even when she's dead wrong.

- Mindy

ps she, this doesn't mean I've given up on the previous hijack...

The following is a quality argument?

I think you are running your mouth a great deal and showing that you are doing so without using whatever feebble gray matter exists between your ears. My arguments are generally sound, well reasoned and researched. Occasionally I hold an opinion that isn't, but I am usually the one who points that out and don't need others to do so.

I have argued with several people on literotica and haven't been forced to resort to attacking the character of the person I am arguing with very often. Your first post and subsequent post are all about attacking my character. That is generally the sign of someone with a weak argument or a weak mind. In your case probably both.

Now run along and play with the other children or I will be forced to take you as more than a minor nussiance. Actually I lied, you could never be more than a minor irriitant.

-Colly

 

[Colleen Thomas]

The following is a quality argument?

Easily as quality as yours, but at least my attack was provoked.

-Colly

 

[minsue]

The following is a quality argument?

Leaving aside the typos, yes. Attack her opinions, Ken, but leave the woman herself alone. You're out of your league.

- Mindy

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Leaving aside the typos, yes. Attack her opinions, Ken, but leave the woman herself alone. You're out of your league.

- Mindy

Thanks Mindy

*HUGS*

-Colly

 

[minsue]

Thanks Mindy

*HUGS*

-Colly

Oooh! Hugs from Colly!

Back at ya!

- Mindy

ps You're not going to actually vote for Bush again, are you???

 

[Guest]

Watching Colly's back with Mindy,

Perdita

 

[minsue]

Here we go again...

Politics - AP
Cheney Would Support Gay Marriage Ban

Sat Jan 10, 6:18 PM ET


DENVER - Vice President Dick Cheney, who has said states should handle the issue of gay marriage, now says he would support President Bush if he proposes a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

Cheney, whose daughter is a lesbian, told The Denver Post and the Rocky Mountain News in interviews published Saturday that he still believes states should handle the issue, but that he would support Bush's decision.

"What I said in 2000 was that the question of whether or not some sort of status, legal status or sanction, ought to be granted in the case of a relationship between two individuals of the same sex was historically a matter the states had decided and resolved and that is the way I preferred it," Cheney told the Post.

In the interview with the News, Cheney said that is still his opinion.

Bush has said he respects homosexuals' rights but draws the line at gay weddings. He asked government lawyers to research ways to legally define marriage as a union between a man and a woman after courts in Massachusetts and other states recognized the right of gays to the civil benefits of marriage.

"At this stage, obviously, the president is going to have to make a decision in terms of what administration policy is on this particular provision, and I will support whatever decision he makes," Cheney told the Post.

Although there already is a federal law — the Defense of Marriage Act — that defines marriage as between a man and a woman, some argue that gay marriage should be banned to prevent states from acting independently.

Cheney's daughter, Mary, did not comment on the interview. A well-known figure in the Colorado gay community, Mary Cheney has worked for the Colorado Rockies baseball team and the Coors Brewing Co. where, among other duties, she worked on outreach to gays and lesbians.

She also worked as a personal aide to her father in the 2000 presidential campaign, and joined the Bush-Cheney '04 campaign last July as the Director of Vice Presidential Operations.

AP article on Yahoo

I have no comment. I am currently too disgusted to express myself. I shall return.

- Mindy, wondering why I allow these people to disappoint me

 

[KenJames]

I think you are running your mouth a great deal and showing that you are doing so without using whatever feebble gray matter exists between your ears. My arguments are generally sound, well reasoned and researched. Occasionally I hold an opinion that isn't, but I am usually the one who points that out and don't need others to do so.

I have argued with several people on literotica and haven't been forced to resort to attacking the character of the person I am arguing with very often. Your first post and subsequent post are all about attacking my character. That is generally the sign of someone with a weak argument or a weak mind. In your case probably both.

Now run along and play with the other children or I will be forced to take you as more than a minor nussiance. Actually I lied, you could never be more than a minor irriitant.

-Colly

I didn't attack your character, I disagreed with some of your so-called facts.

If you hadn't started your reply with "piss off" and ended with "just where the fuck do you get off . . ." I would have addressed your other points. As it is, I see no point in continuing this discussion, especially after that last post.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Don't you need to discuss in order to have a discussion?

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Oooh! Hugs from Colly!

Back at ya!

- Mindy

ps You're not going to actually vote for Bush again, are you???

No. I won't. I'll take the demon I don't know over the one I do in defiance of conventional wisdom.

-Colly

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Watching Colly's back with Mindy,

Perdita

Thanks Dita

*HUGS*

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I didn't attack your character, I disagreed with some of your so-called facts.

If you hadn't started your reply with "piss off" and ended with "just where the fuck do you get off . . ." I would have addressed your other points. As it is, I see no point in continuing this discussion, especially after that last post.

Excellent. I hope that means I can look forward to not hearing from you again. Take all the time you need to not respond.

-Colly

 

[Edward Teach]

No. I won't. I'll take the demon I don't know over the one I do in defiance of conventional wisdom.

-Colly

Colly, I'm blown away!!!

If everyone would be that open minded about politics, most of our problems would get solved. WOW!!

-Ed

 

[shereads]

Colly and Teach, you're both more optimistic about what can be accomplished in the next election than I am. Even with "regime change," which isn't likely consideriing the war chest Bush has hoovered up, the next Presidential term is faced with insumountable problems created during the first two and a half years of this one. The record deficit has left the budget surplus nothing but a dim memory. Protections for the environment have been obliterated, and more will be done before the next inauguration. Our credibility with our allies is nonexistent, because we are proven liars. We've cut salaries and benefits for our military and spread them so thin that if North Korea hand-delivers nukes in a parade up Pennsylvania Avenue, we'd be hard-pressed to round up a couple of Marines to go tell them to halt. The so-called Patriot Act has destroyed our belief as Americans that our private lives are private, and that unless we can be proven guilty of a crime, we can never have our freedom taken from us. We are a substantially less free country than we were before this Presidency, and to blame it on 9/11 is to play right into this administration's greedy hands. The term "jobless economic recovery" has come to mean something positive to those who haven't yet had the pleasure of being downsized. The one job sector that's showing signs of recovery is at a wage that leaves a family of four below the poverty level. The oil industry invaded and occupied Washington, D.C., and lives are being lost daily to accomplish their will. We're not allowed to see pictures of the body bags being unloaded from military transport planes because that would "dishonor" the dead; instead, we talk about going to the moon. We're being led around like sheep.

We're screwed. We are exactly where so many people feared we would be if this miserable failure of a human being took office, and if his handlers had their way. Cheney is Satan. Bush is just the means to an end.

 

[Lauren Hynde]

Originally posted in the 2004 Forecasts thread
Portuguese and Cape-Verdians Avoid Fraud in USA

The good personal relationship between the north-American president, George W. Bush, and the Prime Minister of Portugal, Durão Barroso, will allow a greater rigour in the upcoming presidential elections, scheduled for November. A Luso-Cape-Verdian mission of observers, led by the Centro National de Eleições* (CNE) will be sent to each of the fifty north-American states. "El Presidente doesn't want the American people to have any doubt over his electoral performance. And who better than the CNE to make the record straight?" explained a White House spokesperson. "Apart from the cordial friendship between mister Bush and mister Barroso, the democratic maturity of Portugal and, above all, the exemplary transparency of the vote tallying of the last municipal elections in Lisbon** were decisive", the same source added.


*National Electoral Centre
**don't ask, long story...

This might belong in this thread. We're all very Catholic down here.

 

[Edward Teach]

Colly and Teach, you're both more optimistic about what can be accomplished in the next election than I am.

Er, I'm staying out of this, She. I've seen enough to know better than to take on you or Colly. I like my thinning little pelt right where it is. You don't have to kick my ass twice to make me run.

-Ed

 

[shereads]

Er, I'm staying out of this, She. I've seen enough to know better than to take on you or Colly. I like my thinning little pelt right where it is. You don't have to kick my ass twice to make me run.

-Ed

I understand, Al. I wouldn't have run again either.

 

[minsue]

I understand, Al. I wouldn't have run again either.

ROFL!

Too funny!

- Mindy

 

[Edward Teach]

I understand, Al. I wouldn't have run again either.

Very funny, but I was actually referring to an altercation (if you can call bitch slapping someone twice an altercation) that Colly had a little while ago. LOL

- Ed

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Colly and Teach, you're both more optimistic about what can be accomplished in the next election than I am. Even with "regime change," which isn't likely consideriing the war chest Bush has hoovered up, the next Presidential term is faced with insumountable problems created during the first two and a half years of this one. The record deficit has left the budget surplus nothing but a dim memory. Protections for the environment have been obliterated, and more will be done before the next inauguration. Our credibility with our allies is nonexistent, because we are proven liars. We've cut salaries and benefits for our military and spread them so thin that if North Korea hand-delivers nukes in a parade up Pennsylvania Avenue, we'd be hard-pressed to round up a couple of Marines to go tell them to halt. The so-called Patriot Act has destroyed our belief as Americans that our private lives are private, and that unless we can be proven guilty of a crime, we can never have our freedom taken from us. We are a substantially less free country than we were before this Presidency, and to blame it on 9/11 is to play right into this administration's greedy hands. The term "jobless economic recovery" has come to mean something positive to those who haven't yet had the pleasure of being downsized. The one job sector that's showing signs of recovery is at a wage that leaves a family of four below the poverty level. The oil industry invaded and occupied Washington, D.C., and lives are being lost daily to accomplish their will. We're not allowed to see pictures of the body bags being unloaded from military transport planes because that would "dishonor" the dead; instead, we talk about going to the moon. We're being led around like sheep.

We're screwed. We are exactly where so many people feared we would be if this miserable failure of a human being took office, and if his handlers had their way. Cheney is Satan. Bush is just the means to an end.

Probably won't get rid of him She, but to despair is the worst thing you can do. This country got through Grant and Harding. We made it through Hoover and the Great Depression. We survived LBJ and Vietnam. I don't think there is anyone alive who can cause so much trouble as to make it so bleak you have to feel so badly.

Patriot won't survive the legal challenges. It's already being considered despite all the pressure the administration could bring. The deficet has been with us for a long long time. I don't think it will cause as much disruption as you fear. No budget surplus will ever last with the aravice of our legislators. Not unless you can hide it from them. Our military is far stronger than you reckon, even spread out over several battle zones.

Jobs will be lost, jobs will be gained, it's just a matter of time. The oil industry already owned Washington. They are just less covert about it these days.

When you let them destroy your optimism and hope...thats when the barbarians at the gate conqueor. I am far from optimistic, but my inate cynicism tells me that everything is going bush's way right now, therefore, he is due for a fall. Murphy's law.

Anyway, stay up when you can and don't loose hope.

-Colly

 

[shereads]

Colly, thanks, but I don't think legal challenges and even legal defeats can stop what the Patriot Act has started...We joke about it here, but we're actually getting used to the idea that our government is watching for patterns in what each of us checks out of the library and patterns in the websites we visit...and profiling us for owning a freakin' Farmers Almanac, for god's sake. The Patriot Act will have served its purpose by the time portions of it go down in defeat in the courts. The idea that Big Brother Is Watching will have been introduced as something positive, and accepted as something inevitable. The shock has worn off already, hasn't it?

 

[Colleen Thomas]

Colly, thanks, but I don't think legal challenges and even legal defeats can stop what the Patriot Act has started...We joke about it here, but we're actually getting used to the idea that our government is watching for patterns in what each of us checks out of the library and patterns in the websites we visit...and profiling us for owning a freakin' Farmers Almanac, for god's sake. The Patriot Act will have served its purpose by the time portions of it go down in defeat in the courts. The idea that Big Brother Is Watching will have been introduced as something positive, and accepted as something inevitable. The shock has worn off already, hasn't it?

I don't know. I think if the parts of the act that are being challenged are shot down then the act as a whole will collapse under it's own weight. Granting broad new powers to law enforcement is nothing new and in the past there has been a lot of knee jerk legislation that has eventually gone the way of the dodo when the public calmed down and abuses became known.

It's too early to tell what parts of the act will be upheld and what parts will be shot down, but it's encourageing to know the USSC, despite intense pressure from the administration isn't backing down from hearing the cases. It's also comforting to a cynic to know that a law granting law enforcement the ability to act without judicial oversight will be tested by the judiciary. I am a big enough believer in the branches protectiong their turf to feel that that one won't enjoy support from even Scalia or Thomas.

-Colly

 

[minsue]

I don't know. I think if the parts of the act that are being challenged are shot down then the act as a whole will collapse under it's own weight. Granting broad new powers to law enforcement is nothing new and in the past there has been a lot of knee jerk legislation that has eventually gone the way of the dodo when the public calmed down and abuses became known.

It's too early to tell what parts of the act will be upheld and what parts will be shot down, but it's encourageing to know the USSC, despite intense pressure from the administration isn't backing down from hearing the cases. It's also comforting to a cynic to know that a law granting law enforcement the ability to act without judicial oversight will be tested by the judiciary. I am a big enough believer in the branches protectiong their turf to feel that that one won't enjoy support from even Scalia or Thomas.

-Colly

I really hope you're right, but I'm terrified that you're not. Far too many people are not only unconcerned, but relieved that the government is "protecting" them in this way.

- Mindy