sweetnpetite
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It doesn't bother me at all that this topic has veered off from "story ideas" in fact, I quite enjoy the debate about the various mythologies, this is wonderfully fascinating and educational.
That said, I bet it would make a great story (erotic or otherwise) to explore these differences of perspective deeper. For instance, a story that starts with the assumption that the norse gods are all about honor and so forth =the good guys= and then an encounter with an outsider challenges this assumption. (some star crossed love maybe?) Since we always think that we are on the side of good until someone else disagrees, there are many variations of this idea, and each would create a new and interesting story
You could literally do this with any culture or religion that ever was. I think the best take would be in the end if the characters (at least one) realized that although we like to view the world (and everyone in it) in terms of good and evil (with us being good and our so-called-enimies always being evil) we are really all just imperfect human beings with good and bad traits making good and bad choices and acting sometimes selfishly and sometimes ultruisticly, sometimes hurting and sometimes helping.
Which is quite true and the way that I view the world. And what I was going to say about the vikings. Sometimes the good or the bad outweighs the other (lets say, Hitler and Thomas Jeferson) but it is never the entirety of any person. Jeferson had his faults and I'm certain that Hitler had positive qualities as well. (Lets say charisma and leadership though sadly misdirected)
But I didn't intend to derail the conversation entirely, so back to mythology. I'll just restate the story idea of what I wrote and leave you all with that:
I bet it would make a great story (erotic or otherwise) to explore these differences of perspective deeper. For instance, a story that starts with the assumption that the norse gods are all about honor and so forth =the good guys= and then an encounter with an outsider challenges this assumption. (some star crossed love maybe?) Since we always think that we are on the side of good until someone else disagrees, there are many variations of this idea, and each would create a new and interesting story
Anyone care to expand on the possiblilies?
That said, I bet it would make a great story (erotic or otherwise) to explore these differences of perspective deeper. For instance, a story that starts with the assumption that the norse gods are all about honor and so forth =the good guys= and then an encounter with an outsider challenges this assumption. (some star crossed love maybe?) Since we always think that we are on the side of good until someone else disagrees, there are many variations of this idea, and each would create a new and interesting story
You could literally do this with any culture or religion that ever was. I think the best take would be in the end if the characters (at least one) realized that although we like to view the world (and everyone in it) in terms of good and evil (with us being good and our so-called-enimies always being evil) we are really all just imperfect human beings with good and bad traits making good and bad choices and acting sometimes selfishly and sometimes ultruisticly, sometimes hurting and sometimes helping.
Which is quite true and the way that I view the world. And what I was going to say about the vikings. Sometimes the good or the bad outweighs the other (lets say, Hitler and Thomas Jeferson) but it is never the entirety of any person. Jeferson had his faults and I'm certain that Hitler had positive qualities as well. (Lets say charisma and leadership though sadly misdirected)
But I didn't intend to derail the conversation entirely, so back to mythology. I'll just restate the story idea of what I wrote and leave you all with that:
I bet it would make a great story (erotic or otherwise) to explore these differences of perspective deeper. For instance, a story that starts with the assumption that the norse gods are all about honor and so forth =the good guys= and then an encounter with an outsider challenges this assumption. (some star crossed love maybe?) Since we always think that we are on the side of good until someone else disagrees, there are many variations of this idea, and each would create a new and interesting story
Anyone care to expand on the possiblilies?
Arkontheroof said:Ah, AA, how could I let you down?! I couldn't! So, I'll dispute....
Norse honour had sod-all to do with romantic or Bushido-like concepts - I call as my witness the Icelandic Saga of the Confederates, which is a long story about greedy bastards bribing each other and perverting justice for financial gain - and "honor" in the Sagas has more to do with gaining respect through victory than standing up for what is right. The heroes were also often morally bankrupt - e.g. the Norwegian Arrow-Odd - though there are also historical/semi-historical heroes (e.g. the more historical Thorstein and Thorarin from the Thorstein Staff-Struck story) who are genuinely heroic and honourable as we'd understand it.
Happy with that?
Vaguely back onto topic -
The Norse can't be written off as uncivilised just because they didn't build marble monuments like the Classical tyrants, and it isn't fair to reduce their achievements to going Viking (especially since the Slavs, Saxons, Picts and everyone else in N/W/Central Europe did the same thing, just not as well!) The Icelanders, for example gave us the Thing and the Kvidur - which were probably closer to a democratic assembly or a reasonable jury than the Athenians ever managed, and better than Europe would see for hundreds of years thereafter.
And their mythology gives LOADS of ideas of erotic fiction - from the romantic (I'm thinking: virgin couple elope/sail off together only to drift into the Sea of Worms, and realising that they'll die they throw themselves into ech others' arms) to the outright perverse (I think it's Eirik the Red's Saga that has the luscivious zombie-woman who rises from the dead and tries to molest a guest at her oild farm)....
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