Gun Control

[BoyNextDoor]

Which of those would have stopped yesterday's political assassin?

The one that would have prevented him from getting a gun.

When these events happen I am always interested in the trace back of the weapon, through its ownership and back to the manufacturer. That is an important set of information to have, and to aggregate, to get guns out of the hands of those that cannot use them lawfully. But that information never seems to be available. And it is not available to law enforcement either.

Instant background checks would have kept that particular Glock out of the hands of Roof before he assassinated a bunch of people for going to church. Let's see if we get the history on this particular weapon and I'll answer you more directly, but as of now the question really cannot be answered because too many responsible gun owners let the asshole gun owners get away with murder.

 

[water505]

The one that would have prevented him from getting a gun.

In other words you're too embarrassed to answer the question. Doesn't that tell you something??

Nothing you listed would have prevented him from buying a gun.

Read the above again and maybe it will sink in.

Just say it...you want nothing less than a total ban on private gun ownership.

 

[TalkRadio]

Gun owners are the ones out to harm people. They call it "self-defense", but it's still a matter of shooting other people. No way are you deflecting the bullets coming toward you.

Self-defense is having a shield, not a weapon.

Do you own a shield?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yeah but he is in Canada and causing us grief
Ammo is already expensive enough. Try buying a box of goose loads . Cripes

Yep, you guys are going commie at warp 9.975....

He thinks guns are for shooting people

Sometimes they are.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

and none of it will happen. Its a non-starter issue. Movie theater shot up, no change, high school shot up, no change, elementary school shot up, no change, congress people shot, no change. Don't waste you time with ideas. America doesn't give a fuck about americans.

Jesus fucking stupid on a cracker!


90% of his wish list is already true...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Yep. I said it. Long overdue.

* Register them all
* Outlaw undocumented private sales (gun show loophole)
* Instant background checks
* Felony for resale of a gun that is undocumented, w/ mandatory minimum sentence
* Outlaw internet sales of guns
* Leave the rest up to the States

None of that treads on the 2nd Amendment.

There is no such thing as a gun show loophole.

If you had ever seen one, you would know...

Virtually all of your list is already on the books except registering them and there are already millions of guns out there. Registering a gun would be a violation of privacy.

You have zero command of the topic and even less fact-based solutions. Here's another fact that you just don't seem to know. When you buy a gun on the internet, it has to be shipped to a licensed gun dealer who then performs the instant background check before you are allowed to walk out of the store with the gun.

You are simply a knee-jerk moron who has decided, once again, in the wake of a shooting (by a member of your own fucking LW militia) to use the crises to call for gun control.

Maybe instead of focusing like a laser on overturning the election and inciting violence against Trump and the Deplorables, you should have been doing your homework on guns, developed some rational ideas and policies and then used them as part of a rational and well-structured political campaign instead of letting Cher and Madonna do your thinking for you.

And still we ignore "facts" for political ideology...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The one that would have prevented him from getting a gun.

When these events happen I am always interested in the trace back of the weapon, through its ownership and back to the manufacturer. That is an important set of information to have, and to aggregate, to get guns out of the hands of those that cannot use them lawfully. But that information never seems to be available. And it is not available to law enforcement either.

Instant background checks would have kept that particular Glock out of the hands of Roof before he assassinated a bunch of people for going to church. Let's see if we get the history on this particular weapon and I'll answer you more directly, but as of now the question really cannot be answered because too many responsible gun owners let the asshole gun owners get away with murder.

Bullshit.

Have you never purchased a "gun?"

 

[hashtag24]

Bullshit.

Have you never purchased a "gun?"

^ Enjoys purchasing guns for princess little shit.

 

[phrodeau]

Do you own a shield?

I know you want to shoot me dead, so I'm going to keep you guessing.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Just say it...you want nothing less than a total ban on private gun ownership.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Since you seem to want to know what I want, I'll tell you. I want guns sensibly regulated. It really is no big thing. It is made a big thing by dopes like you that equate any regulation with "a total ban on private gun ownership". That is stupidity supreme.

Registration nationally, trace guns used to kill back through every owner until you get to the one that put it in the hands of the outlaws and lock them up and throw away the key, or else make them an accessory to the murder. That is sensible.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Public gun ownership might work. Want to go hunting or blow some one away just sign a weapon out from local gun locker.

 

[milehighcityman]

Nothing could be further from the truth. Since you seem to want to know what I want, I'll tell you. I want guns sensibly regulated. It really is no big thing. It is made a big thing by dopes like you that equate any regulation with "a total ban on private gun ownership". That is stupidity supreme.

Registration nationally, trace guns used to kill back through every owner until you get to the one that put it in the hands of the outlaws and lock them up and throw away the key, or else make them an accessory to the murder. That is sensible.

So if I have a gun and I sell it to my perfectly normal, law abiding neighbor who has no criminal background, and then a year later he gets in an argument with his wife and shoots her, you think I should go to jail?

 

[handysr]

Nothing could be further from the truth. Since you seem to want to know what I want, I'll tell you. I want guns sensibly regulated. It really is no big thing. It is made a big thing by dopes like you that equate any regulation with "a total ban on private gun ownership". That is stupidity supreme.

Registration nationally, trace guns used to kill back through every owner until you get to the one that put it in the hands of the outlaws and lock them up and throw away the key, or else make them an accessory to the murder. That is sensible.

No, that is not reasonable, and it is infringement. "Sensible" is not a quantifiable item, it will be different for everyone. As seen already, your version and mine vary wildly. You want harsh restrictions, and one downside is the registration. As has been shown before, when the anti-gunners want more restrictions, then your address is on file to make confiscation easier.

Your idea is infringing as hell. Bad idea.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Nothing could be further from the truth. Since you seem to want to know what I want, I'll tell you. I want guns sensibly regulated.

Goes on to list a bunch of nonsensical emotionally based idiocy.

Registration nationally, trace guns used to kill back through every owner until you get to the one that put it in the hands of the outlaws and lock them up and throw away the key, or else make them an accessory to the murder. That is sensible.

LOL so you're going to start holding gun dealers responsible for the psychos that wind up with their products be it directly or not?

Sure that's sensible....

 

[handysr]

So if I have a gun and I sell it to my perfectly normal, law abiding neighbor who has no criminal background, and then a year later he gets in an argument with his wife and shoots her, you think I should go to jail?

But of course! Oh, and it's just "sensible" to be required to have insurance to own a gun, so the family of the deceased can also sue you for millions.

With that kind of dis-incentive to gun ownership, the amount of "legally" owned guns would drop fast. The anti-gun liberals would love this. And call it 'reasonable' and 'common sense'.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

No, that is not reasonable, and it is infringement. "Sensible" is not a quantifiable item, it will be different for everyone. As seen already, your version and mine vary wildly. You want harsh restrictions, and one downside is the registration. As has been shown before, when the anti-gunners want more restrictions, then your address is on file to make confiscation easier.

Your idea is infringing as hell. Bad idea.

Registration = confiscation I am going to prescribe Quetiapine for you. y/w

This time when you watch Red Dawn try and focus on how the guns helped the Wolverines.

 

[Hard_Rom]

So if I have a gun and I sell it to my perfectly normal, law abiding neighbor who has no criminal background, and then a year later he gets in an argument with his wife and shoots her, you think I should go to jail?

Were you breaking the law when you sold it to him? Maybe if a proper background check had been done his propensity for domestic abuse would have been noticed. Leaving yourself open to be sued by wife's family or kids. Awfully litigatious society the US.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Registration = confiscation I am going to prescribe Quetiapine for you. y/w

What other reason is there to register your privately owned property with the government?

LOL....so they can come take it from you ya fuckin' dummy

 

[rocket_surgery]

Were you breaking the law when you sold it to him? Maybe if a proper background check had been done his propensity for domestic abuse would have been noticed. Leaving yourself open to be sued by wife's family or kids. Awfully litigatious society the US.

He said someone with no criminal background. It's a legit question.
A person who sells a gun legally to someone who is legally allowed to buy one should not be responsible for what that person may do with it.

 

[handysr]

Registration = confiscation I am going to prescribe Quetiapine for you. y/w

This time when you watch Red Dawn try and focus on how the guns helped the Wolverines.

You're right, that would never happen.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3117238
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...ns-new-york-sending-gun-confiscation-notices/
https://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/kat...un-confiscation-underway-in-new-york-n1758137
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2717809

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Yep. I said it. Long overdue.

* Register them all
* Outlaw undocumented private sales (gun show loophole)
* Instant background checks
* Felony for resale of a gun that is undocumented, w/ mandatory minimum sentence
* Outlaw internet sales of guns
* Leave the rest up to the States

None of that treads on the 2nd Amendment.

None of those things would have stopped the shooting yesterday or any other shooting.

How about a better plan:

*Ban gun free zones (That's where all of these mass shootings are taking place)
*Keep Background checks
*Require guns to be carried in by responsible adults who pass background checks in Schools, Churches, Congress and other areas.
*Open or Concealed carry legal everywhere.
*Promote gun ownership and gun safety

 

[phrodeau]

In other words you're too embarrassed to answer the question. Doesn't that tell you something??

Nothing you listed would have prevented him from buying a gun.

Read the above again and maybe it will sink in.

Just say it...you want nothing less than a total ban on private gun ownership.

Just say it… you're a troll.

https://img1.oncoloring.com/face-grumpy-troll-branch_588743e2d9f7b-p.gif

 

[phrodeau]

None of those things would have stopped the shooting yesterday or any other shooting.

How about a better plan:

*Ban gun free zones (That's where all of these mass shootings are taking place)
*Keep Background checks
*Require guns to be carried in by responsible adults who pass background checks in Schools, Churches, Congress and other areas.
*Open or Concealed carry legal everywhere.
*Promote gun ownership and gun safety

Do you have any idea how many guns are already on the streets in America? And you want more?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Do you have any idea how many guns are already on the streets in America? And you want more?

Until some nut shoots up a church. Oh wait...

 

[Hard_Rom]

He said someone with no criminal background. It's a legit question.
A person who sells a gun legally to someone who is legally allowed to buy one should not be responsible for what that person may do with it.

Tell that to the lawyer who hits you with a wrongful death suit on behalf of orphaned kiddies. Right or wrong still going to cost you an arm and a leg.