Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

[toubab]

So Trump meets with the president of Mexico and decides not to bring up the one thing he talks about at every rally, the one thing most of his dumbass supporters know about his platform: who's paying for the border wall.

All talk, no action bitch.

And apparently on some kind of serious drugs. I thought he might actually nod off at the podium.

That's ridiculous. Nieto didn't invite Trump there to discuss who is going to pay for the wall. It would have been inappropriate for Trump to bring it up. There were far more important issues to discuss. You Trump haters are grasping at straws.

I don't see how this meeting can fail to help Trump. But judging the reaction of the American voter to anything is risky business.

 

[Aglaopheme]

I'm sure that Trump's tax returns would show us a whole lot of negatives about him--like that he owes a lot more than he makes, that he's cheating on his declarations, that he's in bed with undesirables, that he gives nothing to charity and that his declared charities wind up in his own bank accounts, etc. And it's because of this that he won't release the tax data that every other presidential candidate for decades has done--and the Clintons, for instance, have done back into the 80s.

The only issue that is clear here is that Trump is a con artist and "fair share" wealth hider in criminal proportions that take him entirely away from and beyond the "everyone does it" argument. Not to mention that everyone doesn't do it and you have the classic example in front of you in comparing the two presidential candidates.

You mean all of the things that have already come out in the Times piece.

Oh, and by the way, yes, the Clintons are very clever in releasing their personal tax records. The problem here is that they want Trump to open up his business tax records while they have yet to release full and complete tax records and donations and donors of the Foundation that operates as their pay-to-play slush fund.

When they offer the clarity they are hypocritically demanding, then I'll also call on Trump to release his tax records. As long as a lot of you insist that this is just about Trump while holding the Clintons as paragons, I will continue not to give a fuck about either his tax records or who you think/imagine he's screwed in business...

Except of course they are asking for Trump's personal taxes to be released. Are you saying you have no problem with that?

And of course the Clintons have made public all of the donors to their foundation for years. They have gone way beyond what is called for in making the foundations records public.

 

[Wrong Element]

In the primaries you pander to your base.

He has them locked up.

In the general you move to the center and make your itch to moderates and independents. So now that he is saying what they want to hear, you guys don't like the fact that he's moving closer to your position? You don't like compromise? You want him to run only to his base? Is that the only way Hillary can win since she is clearly afraid to stray too far from the Sanders base...



Oh, and by the way, WHERE IS MRS. CLINTON?

"Moving closer to your position?" He's taken every possible position in just the last couple of weeks. I haven't the faintest idea what his position is.

My point was that he's never come off 1) the need for a border wall that 2) Mexico will be expected to pay for. He bills himself as the greatest dealmaker who ever lived, so why would he pass up his first chance to make this pitch to Pena Nieto? He looked weak, and if he brings up Mexico paying for the wall in his speech tonight, it's just going to underscore that he was scared to say that this afternoon.


Of course, the problem Clinton has and will continue to have is that Trump is getting massive praise from the "liberal media" because he was able to stand up and read in Mexico City. His words were banal and he sounded more low energy than Jeb ever has, but he's getting raves. If the same double standard for competence is in effect during the debate postmortems, Hillary will be in loads of trouble.

 

[xbb]

The CriminalClinton klan earned ALL their MONEY while in Government or part of it, tax returns are needed

Dee Trump earned his money on pvt biz....no need to see tax returns

 

[phrodeau]

The CriminalClinton klan earned ALL their MONEY while in Government or part of it, tax returns are needed

Dee Trump earned his money on pvt biz....no need to see tax returns

Forget about the Wall Street speaking fees, idiot?

 

[Wrong Element]

People who make their money in the private sector never cheat on their taxes? THAT'S his argument?

 

[xbb]

People who make their money in the private sector never cheat on their taxes? THAT'S his argument?

who said that?

how DARE you, a GimpCuntClinton echo lyte talk about CHEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Forget about the Wall Street speaking fees, idiot?

No that's all the Democrats who are pretending Hillary is 'progressive'.

 

[MankoZ28]

Listening to the Don and he's up to point number 8 and no mention yet of punishing companies that hire illegal immigrants.

 

[phrodeau]

No that's all the Democrats who are pretending Hillary is 'progressive'.

Was I addressing you? I guess I was.

 

[phrodeau]

Listening to the Don and he's up to point number 8 and no mention yet of punishing companies that hire illegal immigrants.

Maybe he thinks taking away the illegals would be punishment enough.

 

[MankoZ28]

Maybe he thinks taking away the illegals would be punishment enough.

Someone else will just replace them. Until the people that hire illegals are deemed criminals the problem will not go away.

Also it sounds like he has a new affirmative action program for African Americans and Latinos making sure they get the jobs that all the illegals vacate.

 

[phrodeau]

Someone else will just replace them. Until the people that hire illegals are deemed criminals the problem will not go away.

Also it sounds like he has a new affirmative action program for African Americans and Latinos making sure they get the jobs that all the illegals vacate.

Sure, he's going to hire thousands of border patrol and ICE agents.

 

[RoryN]

Also it sounds like he has a new affirmative action program for African Americans and Latinos making sure they get the jobs that all the illegals vacate.

So, minorities have to wait until his magic deportation program works to get jobs.

There goes the last 43 votes he was going to get from them.

 

[MankoZ28]

Sure, he's going to hire thousands of border patrol and ICE agents.

Yes, I think that was point number 6.

 

[phrodeau]

Meanwhile, unemployment has been at or below 5% since October 2015.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

 

[phrodeau]

Meanwhile, the number of illegal immigrants, which increased substantially during the Bush years, has leveled off since Obama took office.

http://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000844

 

[Ishmael]

Meanwhile, unemployment has been at or below 5% since October 2015.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Tu lo sabado, "las libra's esta en la cocina?" Loosely it means "cooking the books."

Ishmael

 

[phrodeau]

Not a word about anchor babies. Did he lose a page of script?

 

[Ishmael]

Not a word about anchor babies. Did he lose a page of script?

All that is required is a "Presidential Finding" that states minor children are in "the care and custody" of their parents regardless of place of birth. If the parents go, the children go with them. Upon reaching majority the child, being a natural born citizen, would be welcome back upon application and proper documentation.

Obviously the ACLU and others would file suit in federal court based on the 14th amendment. The counter is the precedent already set in the case of Elio Gonzales.

Ishmael

 

[toubab]

USC/LA Times poll

http://cesrusc.org/election/

Trump 45.0

Clinton 42.4

 

[xbb]

In his speech last night he said something that should be OBVIOUS for all

He said

We shuld have compassion for AMERICANS, the hundreds of millions of AMERICANS and not the 11 million ILLEGALS!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

You mean all of the things that have already come out in the Times piece.




Except of course they are asking for Trump's personal taxes to be released. Are you saying you have no problem with that?

And of course the Clintons have made public all of the donors to their foundation for years. They have gone way beyond what is called for in making the foundations records public.

No, in light of all the things Hillary tried to keep secret from us, and is still being kept secret by the State Department's foot-dragging to protect her, I really don't care about all of you wailing for Trump to come clean.

Furthermore, I want to know HOW MANY strokes she has had and whether or not she can actually serve a full term as President.

And no, when it comes to the Foundation, they have only provided enough to placate their base and its sycophantic and supportive press. It is on watch lists because it spends more on keeping the Bill and Hillary Clinton political machine intact and payed than it spends of actual charity, it is Chelsea's assurance that she and her children will never have to work again, ever, seriously, a single day in their life and it will continue to serve as a conduit to the first family when she is in office again. It's so bad that Huma was drawing a full-time salary from the Foundation at the same time as she was drawing full-time pay, for a full time job, while working for Hillary in the State Department.

Compared to all of that, I'm supposed to put Trump under the microscope so I can cherry-pick for even more reasons not to like him?

You guys have already decided you don't like him.

Now you want to convince everyone else not to like him because that's pretty much your candidate's only path to victory; to be the least slimy of the best that the two-party system can produce in its days of dysfunctional decline and decay.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

"Moving closer to your position?" He's taken every possible position in just the last couple of weeks. I haven't the faintest idea what his position is.

My point was that he's never come off 1) the need for a border wall that 2) Mexico will be expected to pay for. He bills himself as the greatest dealmaker who ever lived, so why would he pass up his first chance to make this pitch to Pena Nieto? He looked weak, and if he brings up Mexico paying for the wall in his speech tonight, it's just going to underscore that he was scared to say that this afternoon.


Of course, the problem Clinton has and will continue to have is that Trump is getting massive praise from the "liberal media" because he was able to stand up and read in Mexico City. His words were banal and he sounded more low energy than Jeb ever has, but he's getting raves. If the same double standard for competence is in effect during the debate postmortems, Hillary will be in loads of trouble.

And when anyone points out that ever-shifting positions of the Queen of polling and focusing, we get either they all do it, or, well, she's not locked into an ideological message of hate, she listens and responds to the voters, so as far as his acting and speaking like a politician...

I don't give a fuck.

I didn't get to keep my doctor and my insurance did not get cheaper, for starters.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The CriminalClinton klan earned ALL their MONEY while in Government or part of it, tax returns are needed

Dee Trump earned his money on pvt biz....no need to see tax returns

Forget about the Wall Street speaking fees, idiot?

Purchasing access.

Why are those speeches a secret?

On another, related note, since all you do is tell everyone how stupid/idiotic they are, the inference being, of course, how smart you are, what is your degree in?