Here's How Donald Trump Could Become President

[sr71plt]

That sounds like a technicality for technicalities sake. If it were Johnson or Stien I'd be all about teaching them how to file paperwork properly but the Republicans should just be allowed to slide on this.

Agree. The citizens of Minnesota didn't do anything wrong. They deserve access to vote on any national ballot candidates equal to those in other states.

 

[phrodeau]

Agree. The citizens of Minnesota didn't do anything wrong. They deserve access to vote on any national ballot candidates equal to those in other states.

Remember Joe Miller, a Tea Party Republican from Alaska running for Senate in 2010? How many challenges he made, because Lisa Murkowski didn't get her name on the ballot but won anyway?

 

[toubab]

Agree. The citizens of Minnesota didn't do anything wrong. They deserve access to vote on any national ballot candidates equal to those in other states.

Not worth worrying about. The state that elected Jesse Ventura and Al Franken isn't going to vote for Donald Trump.

 

[Wrong Element]

Not worth worrying about. The state that elected Jesse Ventura and Al Franken isn't going to vote for Donald Trump.

I don't think Minnesota will back Trump either, but Ventura isn't what I'd call proof of that -- he's probably the Trumpiest person to ever win a significant election.

As far as the underlying issue goes, I usually come down on the side of adhering to stated rules because you can open a can of worms when you don't. I'm fine with leaving it up to the experts in Minnesota election law, and I presume its Supreme Court qualifies.

 

[phrodeau]

Minnesota elected Tim Pawlenty and Michele Bachmann, so such things are possible.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Someone elses poor behavior doesn't excuse mine.

The only reason I would screw over a third party is if you don't I'm certain you'll have 2020, the year Alaska entire citzenship runs simply to complicated a ballot.

 

[patient1]

Seriously, you've just lost it out of your insanity. I don't know what pissed you off so much but Republicans NEVER liked big government, they like to torture people. And they don't say shit about Obama's droning of people for the most part because they not only approve they wish he would do that shit all day everyday. How often is he criticized as being a weak and spiness leader?

Dems are STILL pissed about Gitmo but you can't shot all day everyday. (Oh and Obama closed one of the camps and nobody remembered to congratulate him because it's just old news that isn't going anywhere.)
.

If the department of Homeland Security isn't Republican Big Government, I don't know what is. If perpetual war isn't Republican big government, I don't know what is. If the War on Drugs isn't Republican Big Government, I don't know what is. They aren't exactly lining up to put an end to either. They are responsible for it, whether they like it or not.

All that said, if you say Obama finally closed a camp as promised- Congratulations Obama!

 

[toubab]

USC/LA Times poll

http://cesrusc.org/election/

Clinton 44.8

Trump 43.8

 

[Sean Renaud]

If the department of Homeland Security isn't Republican Big Government, I don't know what is. If perpetual war isn't Republican big government, I don't know what is. If the War on Drugs isn't Republican Big Government, I don't know what is. They aren't exactly lining up to put an end to either. They are responsible for it, whether they like it or not.

All that said, if you say Obama finally closed a camp as promised- Congratulations Obama!

When Republicans talk about big government they don't mean war. The military isn't even socialist. That is what they are talking about. They are talking about the government helping people and the government oppressing people with too many regulations.

Just like when Democrats talk about expanding government (not that they would ever be foolish enough to use those words) they mean they want to expand various services to people and sometimes regulations. They aren't talking for the most part about the military industrial complex.

Just like when you get down to it when you ask Republicans about shrinking goverment they are specifically NOT talking law enforcement, or the prison industrial complex (Which Obama may have struck a blow to as well), they sure as fuck make it clear they don't mean Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Trump is hiding behind the government too, that's what he illegally paid them for.

That's how you have to do business in places like Chicago* where the government is run as a crime syndicate. That bad is not on him, that bad is on government and Hillary Clinton is the new paragon of pay-to-play corruption.


* New York too, but Chicago is being specifically mentioned because it is the political home-school for the Obama-Clinton team.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Seriously, you've just lost it out of your insanity.

No I'm just not a (D) fanboy.

I don't know what pissed you off so much but Republicans NEVER liked big government,

They LOVE big government.

No amount of money is too much if it's spent on THEIR projects like the military, war on drugz and the police state.

How often is he criticized as being a weak and spiness leader?

(R)'s will say that about any (D).....just like no matter what if (R) had drone striked a US citizen (D)'s would have frame him as a racist abusing their beloved PATRIOT act to kill a Muslim for being Muslim.

Where are these Democrats that loved Obama for droning a US citizen, I've never seen them.

They are all the ones who screeched bloody murder when Bush brought out the PATRIOT act and then didn't say shit when Obama re-upped it bigger, badder than ever and started taking people out with it.

I really want to meet some of your democrats because I bet I could get those fuckers to show up to midterms to vote for the team even if they don't agree 100% with what's going on instead of sitting home like worthless shits every other election.

Plenty on the GB....shit there are at least half a dozen that can't even be told Obama is less than perfection on Earth.

Just like when you get down to it when you ask Republicans about shrinking goverment they are specifically NOT talking law enforcement, or the prison industrial complex (Which Obama may have struck a blow to as well), they sure as fuck make it clear they don't mean Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid.

Like I said they aren't interested in shrinking government.

Certainly not when they have the opportunity to.

Just like Dems don't give a fuck about peace or the working class.....

Those things are all just shit talk points to get votes, when the power gets turned on to one party or the other it's almost always and entirely a money grab.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Some of the clown car collegians do not understand the difference between paying protection and paying a bribe...



Also like to add: The Donald's candor is refreshing, yes I have to pay politicians in campaign contributions in order to do business. On the other hand, the politicians lie about this fact of business.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

That's how you have to do business in places like Chicago* where the government is run as a crime syndicate. That bad is not on him, that bad is on government and Hillary Clinton is the new paragon of pay-to-play corruption.


* New York too, but Chicago is being specifically mentioned because it is the political home-school for the Obama-Clinton team.

Awesome job absolving Trump of any personal responsibility for his actions.

According to you it's not Trump's fault he decided to open a "university" to scam people out of their money and that Trump decided he wouldn't make good on the contract he decided to enter into. It's not Trump's fault that Trump decided to illegally pay a republican off so that person wouldn't file charges against Trump for another illegal thing Trump chose to do.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's not Trump's fault that Trump decided to illegally pay a republican off

It's not, it's the politicians fault.

It was the politicians fault the second he or she decided they weren't going to prosecute Trump to the fullest extent of the law for illegally bribing an authority.

The politician is the authority and thus the responsible party.

Unless Clinton or Obama then they can't POSSIBLY be held responsible for their actions. All Bush's fault....

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

It's not, it's the politicians fault.

It was the politicians fault the second he or she decided they weren't going to prosecute Trump to the fullest extent of the law for illegally bribing an authority.

The politician is the authority and thus the responsible party.

Unless Clinton or Obama then they can't POSSIBLY be held responsible for their actions. All Bush's fault....

I'm really hoping you're being sarcastic here.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I'm really hoping you're being sarcastic here.

Last sentence yes. The rest of it no.

You ever come up with an example of Trump selling/abusing his powers of office as a top ranking federal official???

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Last sentence yes. The rest of it no.

You ever come up with an example of Trump selling/abusing his powers of office as a top ranking federal official???

Never claimed he was. That was you moving the goal post.

As another poster pointed out, you've gone full BusyBody in this thread.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Never claimed he was.

As another poster pointed out, you have to take your blinders off, that's the same thing Trump just got fined for doing.

Uhhh.....you going to point out Trump abusing his powers of office as a top federal official or admit it isn't the same thing?

That was you moving the goal post.

No that's me holding your feet to the fire

As another poster pointed out, you've gone full BusyBody in this thread.

Your inability to back up your comparison to SoS abusing her power for financial gain to Trump bribing a corrupt official to get out of hot water as the same thing isn't me going busybody.

Neither is me pointing out the HRC camps total hypocrisy and outright bullshitting trying to church Hillary up as some progressive defender of the working class.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Uhhh.....you going to point out Trump abusing his powers of office as a top federal official or admit it isn't the same thing?



No that's me holding your feet to the fire



Your inability to back up your comparison to SoS abusing her power for financial gain to Trump bribing a corrupt official to get out of hot water as the same thing isn't me going busybody.

Neither is me pointing out the HRC camps total hypocrisy and outright bullshitting trying to church Hillary up as some progressive defender of the working class.

LOL. So you can't find me ever saying Trump was an elected official, and notice you didn't include AJ's post that I was responding to.

Yes, you've gone full Busybody on this one.

http://officiallyscrewed.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Moving-The-Goalposts.jpg

 

[BotanyBoy]

LOL. So you can't find me ever saying Trump was an elected official,

You claimed his actions were the same as HRC's who as Secretary of State was in fact, undeniably a top federal official.

and notice you didn't include AJ's post that I was responding to.

It's not really necessary but here.

Except that the Clinton's use the force of government to fleece the little people...

Trump only had the power of getting people to agree to a contract, but he could not threaten them with the State Police or the IRS.

That makes Clinton far worse than Trump.

Changes nothing, only helps back up my argument actually.

Yes, you've gone full Busybody on this one.

Name calling...how very typical of someone being called on their bullshit.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

You claimed his actions were the same as HRC's who as Secretary of State was in fact, undeniably a top federal official.




It's not really necessary but here.





So which is it, did Trump abuse his powers of office or not?

You're right, it didn't matter, you were still wrong and misquoted me.

 

[BotanyBoy]

You're right, it didn't matter, you were still wrong and misquoted me.

How was I wrong?

Did you not say the two were the same? In both post 3947 and 3950?

But no worse than Trump.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=80275224&postcount=3947

As another poster pointed out, you have to take your blinders off, that's the same thing Trump just got fined for doing.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=80275660&postcount=3950



I'm pretty sure I quoted you perfectly, even cited and linked the quotes.

Did Trump get fined for abusing his powers of office as a top federal official or not?

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

How was I wrong?

Did you not say the two were the same? In both post 3947 and 3950?


http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=80275224&postcount=3947


http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=80275660&postcount=3950



I'm pretty sure I quoted you perfectly, even cited and linked the quotes.

Did Trump get fined for abusing his powers of office as a top federal official or not?

Like I said, you were wrong when you misquoted me, and what you've linked shows you misquoted me. I never said Trump was a federal official, I said Trump abused the government and then hid behind them.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Like I said, you were wrong when you misquoted me, and what you've linked shows you misquoted me.

No, those quotes are correct and anyone can look back a couple pages and see them.

Or click the link and view them.

I never said Trump was a federal official

I never said you did.

I said you said "that's the same thing Trump just got fined for doing." in reference to Aj's post about Hillary abusing her powers in post 3949

Except that the Clinton's use the force of government to fleece the little people...

Trump only had the power of getting people to agree to a contract, but he could not threaten them with the State Police or the IRS.

That makes Clinton far worse than Trump.

He's a businessman. The Clintons entered into public service and then used their positions to enrich themselves and were clearly and quite transparent in their willingness to be bribed. Bill, took an honorary no-show job as a "Chancellor" that paid him millions taken from the little people, the students. Then Bill got the government to issue multi-million dollar grants to the corporation that hired him and that money came from the little people too, the taxpayers...

http://forum.literotica.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=80275396

So if it is the same thing then Trump must have been a top federal official abusing his power of office.....right?

I said Trump abused the government and then hid behind them.

That's NOT the same thing as what Hillary, a top federal official who abused her power and negligently compromised national security did. Is it?

One or the other.....can't have it both ways.

Also how did he abuse the government who is the authority that Trump has absolutely NO power over?

When children are allowed to do bad things do you blame the child or the shithead parent who let them?

 

[underguy1]

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